What is this and do I need it?
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What is this and do I need it?
Hi Guys,
I am sure the answer to my question is already here somewhere, but I don't know what the parts are called so I cant search it.
After installing a weber I started cleaning out the engine bay. There is this thing that I think is just a filter thing and I would like to get rid of it and replace it with one of those little air filter things, but I just wanted to check to make sure that this part doesn't do anything important.
So, can anyone tell me what part 'A' is and whether it is ok to remove part A and the hose and replace it with something like this on part 'B'?:
Cheers
I am sure the answer to my question is already here somewhere, but I don't know what the parts are called so I cant search it.
After installing a weber I started cleaning out the engine bay. There is this thing that I think is just a filter thing and I would like to get rid of it and replace it with one of those little air filter things, but I just wanted to check to make sure that this part doesn't do anything important.
So, can anyone tell me what part 'A' is and whether it is ok to remove part A and the hose and replace it with something like this on part 'B'?:
Cheers
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Re: What is this and do I need it?
It's blue so you can remove it... if it was red, however, it shouldnt be touched...
That looks like the engine oil breather outlet. Mr B on the forum built some fancy contraption once that caught the oil vapour and returned it to the sump. That might just be a similar thing.
That looks like the engine oil breather outlet. Mr B on the forum built some fancy contraption once that caught the oil vapour and returned it to the sump. That might just be a similar thing.
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Re: What is this and do I need it?
What if it was black before it was blue? Haha
So if its just a breather, it would be fine to replace it with a little filter then?
So if its just a breather, it would be fine to replace it with a little filter then?
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Re: What is this and do I need it?
That breather pipe is supposed to feed into the air cleaner if I recall correctly. Looks like there is a thin pipe t-ing off the main breather pipe that is connected to the blue carb fitting? In that case you can just remove that oil trap thing and let it breathe into the air cleaner... After a while those little filters get messy and clogged with oil..
If it was black before it became blue it is redundant..
If it was black before it became blue it is redundant..
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Re: What is this and do I need it?
It is most likely something to do with your weird, crazy emissions laws over there. (you can't fart without a filter of some sort there) Won't do any harm to remove it but be careful of your blue light brigade.
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Re: What is this and do I need it?
The thinner hose that connects to the side of the carby hat goes straight to the motor at the front. Part 'B' in my picture is some sort of valve thing that connects to the motor towards the back and also connects to the bit i want to get rid of. It used to also have a vacuum line going to the stock carb or one of the other vacuum things that was involved with the stock carb (can't remember exactly as I pulled all that stuff out when I put the weber in).
Zeppelin is most probably correct. From looking through some pics, it seems heaps of other hiluxs don't even have this part (or as many of the charcoal filters and vacuum parts that I used to have).
The little filter is on there now. I've gained even more engine bay space and it looks badass haha
If it ends up getting dirty too quickly I will plumb it into the air filter, but if it lasts a few months I'll just replace it with another little filter as they are cheap and its neater than having another long hose
Cheers for the help guys :)
Zeppelin is most probably correct. From looking through some pics, it seems heaps of other hiluxs don't even have this part (or as many of the charcoal filters and vacuum parts that I used to have).
The little filter is on there now. I've gained even more engine bay space and it looks badass haha
If it ends up getting dirty too quickly I will plumb it into the air filter, but if it lasts a few months I'll just replace it with another little filter as they are cheap and its neater than having another long hose
Cheers for the help guys :)
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Re: What is this and do I need it?
Crankcase breather by the looks of what I can see. The crank case needs to breathe and as best I can recall the original carb would have had a vacuum nipple at the base where the breather pipe was connected. This makes it a 'closed' system and all crankcase vapours are combusted through the motor. Rather do it like that if you can .... no filters necessary, but it must feed in after the air filter element otherwise that will become chocked fairly quickly and clog. At the base of the carb or into the manifold itself is ideal because the air / fuel mix passing through will keep it clean.
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Re: What is this and do I need it?
I just realised my picture is rather confusing. I have placed the 'b' on top of the pipe that goes to the carby hat. The thicker pipe doesn't actually 'T' off the normal crank case breather, it connects to a separate thing (part 'b') that is behind the thin blue hose within the red circle. In the picture you can see the two metal pipes going into this part. they connect to the motor. Not sure if that makes a difference to anyone's advice.
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Re: What is this and do I need it?
The thing I am talking about is the thing that now has a blue filter in it in this pic:
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Re: What is this and do I need it?
On a TOYOTA the breather returns to the air filter, thus sucking oil vapour back into the engine - burning it.
on a LANDY the breather is re-routed to drip below the gearbox/transfer case, thus negating the need to leak expensive transmission fluid, and still get the mandatory "landy mark" on your drive way and garage floor ....
on a LANDY the breather is re-routed to drip below the gearbox/transfer case, thus negating the need to leak expensive transmission fluid, and still get the mandatory "landy mark" on your drive way and garage floor ....
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Re: What is this and do I need it?
Pics still not clearly showing ..... turn off the green Xmas lights, use a flash and take the pic from the other side and closer if you can.
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Re: What is this and do I need it?
It's not Christmas lights Andy, it is an Aurora Australis under the bonnet..
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Re: What is this and do I need it?
Hahaha, really it's just the combination of spare time, spare LEDs, and the humor of opening the bonnet of a rough old truck and having a glowing engine bay haha. I bought the car to satisfy my need for tinkering, so it's getting plenty of useful and some admittedly useless modifications haha
Anyway, here are some non glowing pictures that show the part much more clearly: Merry Christmas to all of you
Anyway, here are some non glowing pictures that show the part much more clearly: Merry Christmas to all of you
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Re: What is this and do I need it?
This is where the two pipes go:
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Re: What is this and do I need it?
First time i saw this gadget on a 4y.Go the EFI route.Much more power same fuel consumption or better.Depends on your driving style.
Not sure how easily EFI parts is availble in your country .
Not sure how easily EFI parts is availble in your country .
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Re: What is this and do I need it?
I considered efi and may again in the future if I keep the 4y, but I'm enjoying the carby at the moment as I haven't had one since my first car.
So, if not all 4Ys have it, do you reckon I cold just get rid of the whole lot and just blank off the holes the the two pipes went into on the motor? Or just run two new pipes as breathers from the holes to the intake?
So, if not all 4Ys have it, do you reckon I cold just get rid of the whole lot and just blank off the holes the the two pipes went into on the motor? Or just run two new pipes as breathers from the holes to the intake?
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Re: What is this and do I need it?
James
On my 4y tappet cover there are two pipes where you plug in the breather pipes .The one is next to the oil filler plug (the one end of the breather pipe plugs in there and the other end of the breather pipe plugs in metal cover on top of the carb.
The other pipe is at the end of the the tappet cover on the firewall side.(the one end of the breather pipe ,plugs in there and the other side at the intake manifold)Hope it make sence for you.
On my 4y tappet cover there are two pipes where you plug in the breather pipes .The one is next to the oil filler plug (the one end of the breather pipe plugs in there and the other end of the breather pipe plugs in metal cover on top of the carb.
The other pipe is at the end of the the tappet cover on the firewall side.(the one end of the breather pipe ,plugs in there and the other side at the intake manifold)Hope it make sence for you.
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Re: What is this and do I need it?
That is the EGR valve(exhaust gas recirulation valve) must be an import 4Y local one never came out with it. No need to put a filter on the pipe it's not connected.
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Re: What is this and do I need it?
Thanks guys. So since its doing nothing now, I will probably remove the two metal pipes as well. Would the hole where the exhaust one went into be a good spot for an EGT sensor?
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Re: What is this and do I need it?
I think those could be the LPG piping. Would be keen to see the dizzy. Some of the 4Y in the Forklifts has this on with a particular dizzy and a different carb on them.