Lockers in Sand
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Lockers in Sand
Which one of these will kick some ass ?
The vehicles: SFA Hilux KZTE Eng. with 31's NO lockers vs SFA Hilux 2.4 with 33's double lockers
The terrain: Sand dune 400m long at 45 deg up
We first went down which wasnt too bad wnd then we checked how far we could go up....
Last night we had a blast and today I am smiling from ear to ear...
I kicked some ass last night.... :roll:
The vehicles: SFA Hilux KZTE Eng. with 31's NO lockers vs SFA Hilux 2.4 with 33's double lockers
The terrain: Sand dune 400m long at 45 deg up
We first went down which wasnt too bad wnd then we checked how far we could go up....
Last night we had a blast and today I am smiling from ear to ear...
I kicked some ass last night.... :roll:
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Re: Lockers in Sand
My guess would be the KZTE. The reason for my guess is that the thiner tyre has less rolling resistance.
It also depends on time of day as well.
It also depends on time of day as well.
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Re: Lockers in Sand
Few questions about the terrain:
Is the sand smooth or rutted? (virgin sand) On smooth sand, with no tracks or cross axles, the lockers wont have much effect. :|
With enough momentum any vehicle can do this dune, so what is the run-up distance.
Oh and a sand dune is never steeper than 39degrees... Thats just the way sand is... Unless this is dirt and not sand. :| :?
Is the sand smooth or rutted? (virgin sand) On smooth sand, with no tracks or cross axles, the lockers wont have much effect. :|
With enough momentum any vehicle can do this dune, so what is the run-up distance.
Oh and a sand dune is never steeper than 39degrees... Thats just the way sand is... Unless this is dirt and not sand. :| :?
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Re: Lockers in Sand
Run-up is about 30m. Very smooth and fine sand.
Well, it could be 39degrees then....
We even tried to crawl, but that is impossible...
I went about about 5m further, but with crawling he went furher again.
i think the 2.4 just needs more oomph.
Well, it could be 39degrees then....
We even tried to crawl, but that is impossible...
I went about about 5m further, but with crawling he went furher again.
i think the 2.4 just needs more oomph.
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Re: Lockers in Sand
too many ifs & buts & also's involved to declare an advantage here:
What is the exelleration ability of both [simple thingy like 0 - 100Kph] What is the torque difference? are the final drive ratios the same? How competent are the different drivers? what is the wheight difference between the vehicles? Is there a ground clearance difference?
What tread is on the different make of tyres here? [the more even <smoother> the tread - the further you'll get]
What was the presuure in the tyres? what profile does the tyres have? what is the 'footprint' measure of the different tyre sets?
Only then can you compare - AND feel good if you "win"
Oh - and lockers in sand does not mean much [limited slip diff will get you further ... in sand][REAL sand - like Namib & The Dunes & Botswana etc...]
What is the exelleration ability of both [simple thingy like 0 - 100Kph] What is the torque difference? are the final drive ratios the same? How competent are the different drivers? what is the wheight difference between the vehicles? Is there a ground clearance difference?
What tread is on the different make of tyres here? [the more even <smoother> the tread - the further you'll get]
What was the presuure in the tyres? what profile does the tyres have? what is the 'footprint' measure of the different tyre sets?
Only then can you compare - AND feel good if you "win"
Oh - and lockers in sand does not mean much [limited slip diff will get you further ... in sand][REAL sand - like Namib & The Dunes & Botswana etc...]
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Re: Lockers in Sand
Runup is too short, you wont sommer make it up there.TopHilux Hilton wrote:Run-up is about 30m. Very smooth and fine sand.
It's the 33"s that are killing it. Drop the pressures to 0.6 front and 0.5 rear. Should get you further up the dune. Also keep the revs in the powerband.TopHilux Hilton wrote:i think the 2.4 just needs more oomph.
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Re: Lockers in Sand
jippp Kaspas is right - the run-up is too short for a 4-cyl Toy ... (you would need a V6 Petrol [like the mighty Brutus !!! ! to make it.)
jy kan maar luister vir Cassie - dit klink brastag of hy weet wat hy doen. (ek sal intjip as hy te vêr afdwaal) :D
jy kan maar luister vir Cassie - dit klink brastag of hy weet wat hy doen. (ek sal intjip as hy te vêr afdwaal) :D
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Re: Lockers in Sand
uhmmmm ... EK OOK !!!! [maar 'k huffi so hard te traai nie !!]
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Re: Lockers in Sand
Hilton, ek sien daar op die community forum seg jy jy gaan organise vir n speel sessie by hierdie mynhoop.
Sal jy wanneer jy dit reel ons Hiluxmanne ook saam nooi asse-baie-blief tog.
Ek wil sien wat maak my donkie op daai mynhoop.
Ek sal tot vir jou n Black Label of 6 saamvat.
Sal jy wanneer jy dit reel ons Hiluxmanne ook saam nooi asse-baie-blief tog.
Ek wil sien wat maak my donkie op daai mynhoop.
Ek sal tot vir jou n Black Label of 6 saamvat.
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Re: Lockers in Sand
Who's keen for a play session on either the Sat 08 March or Sun 09 March ?
Lekker braai and couple of cold ones afterwards.
That is IF it is still accesible....
Lekker braai and couple of cold ones afterwards.
That is IF it is still accesible....
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Re: Lockers in Sand
Lekka man. I might be able to slip away for a quick play.
Can you find out if it still accesible?
Can you find out if it still accesible?
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Re: Lockers in Sand
Al die pad van Ottosdal af vir n speelsessie ??
Ek sal moet gaan kyk of mens nog kan in. Na n naweek sal die manne altyd n nuwe ingang gemaak het.
Ek sal moet gaan kyk of mens nog kan in. Na n naweek sal die manne altyd n nuwe ingang gemaak het.
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Re: Lockers in Sand
Hilton, ons het nie speelplek nie. Daarom moet ek ver ry. Maar ek belowe nou niks, sal wag en sien of ek dit sal maak.TopHilux Hilton wrote:Al die pad van Ottosdal af vir n speelsessie ??
Ek sal moet gaan kyk of mens nog kan in. Na n naweek sal die manne altyd n nuwe ingang gemaak het.
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Re: Lockers in Sand
Kom ons vote vir n dag.
Op die Community forum
http://www.4x4community.com/forum/showt ... post155163
Op die Community forum
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Re: Lockers in Sand
My geld sou op die 2.4 gewees het met die lockers. Rev net daai enjin en storm met pap bande dan sal hy klim.
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Re: Lockers in Sand
MMmmmmmmmm.....lyk my die manne is bietjie bang vir die een...
Wonder of hulle sit of staan by die Loo....
Skree seker vir die Stormers, Sharks, en Cheetah's.... :roll:
Kom manne.......
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Wonder of hulle sit of staan by die Loo....
Skree seker vir die Stormers, Sharks, en Cheetah's.... :roll:
Kom manne.......
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Re: Lockers in Sand
Sou julle wou join maar daai daai naweek is so bietjie vol. Aniversary en skoonsus se kleinding se doop
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Re: Lockers in Sand
E is in ,dan kan ek sommer so paar van julle ontmoet,maar moet nie teveel verwag van my lorrie nie,dit het nie al daai fansie goeters in wat julle inhet nie :)
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Re: Lockers in Sand
Eish, ek onthou nounet, ek het klaar gereel dat ek Sat die Fundi challenge gaan kyk op Lichtenburg, en Sondag gaan ek te moeg wees om so ver te ry. Sal maar ander keer saam.
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Re: Lockers in Sand
Hilton ek was daar velede naweek en dit lyk lekker om daar te ry mits daar nie four wheelers is nie maar ons moet n plan maak.
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Re: Lockers in Sand
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