SCAM....

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:50 am

Correct me if i'm wrong but didn't the '97 come with the fender flairs?

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:53 am

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GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:12 am

wa is al die slim manne?

Ek wil more die bakkie kom haal in PTA maar ek vermoed daar is ge panelbeat op hom, wat nie 'n probleem is as dit mooi gedoen is nie.

Iemand wat van middag tyd het om na hom te kyk in Centurion?

Post by **CasKru** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:53 am

Volgens die interior is die by die 97 rond. Fender flares kon af gehaal geword het toe hy dalk gerespray is op 'n stadium want daai lyk nie vir my na die oorspronklikke decals nie... kan verkeerd wees

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:57 am

Ek het ook my bedenkinge oor die raider stickers...Dis baie maklik om 'n gewone Hilux (Non raider) te upgrade na raider spec to met stickers en 'n paar ander klein itempies. Dike gewones het nie fender flares gehad nie...

Moes daai ouens in 1997 nie al met 'n agterste difflock uitgekom het nie Casper? En was die difflock op al die modelle of net die Raiders? Ek kan nie onthou nie, want ek het net ou SFA's gery..

Post by **CasKru** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:11 am

Dink dit was net die Raiders wat met Diffloc uit gekom het.... ... petrol cap is ook al vervang

Jaco Versfeld · Post by **Jaco Versfeld** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:14 am

Hoekom is die voorste diff so mooi swart geverf?

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:33 am

Ek sien dat die hele onder stel os weer chassis black ge spuit verf.

Ek is nie 100% seker nie maar ek verbeel my ek het die laaste paar maande drie SfAs soortgelyk gesien sonder D/lock

Wat my pla is die fender flairs
voorste corner lamp lyk te skoon

Ek vermoed sy voorste fenders is vervang en die agterste fenderflairs is verwyder en mooi toe gemaak / dis 'n non raider wat 'n raider se stickers op gekry het..

As dit 'n ongeluk was dink ek nie dit was te ernstig nie siende dat die gutter trim nog mooi lyk...
Wat sou jul sê is 'n goeie prys bogenoemde in ag geneem?

Post by **CasKru** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:36 am

Kilos? Waar is die Toyota badge wat voor die gril hoort... en soos jy se daai corner lenses lyk te skoon

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:43 am

Kilos 260 000 vol diens tot 200 000
1997
bande 10 000km terug op gesit jammer dis nie muds nie

Post by **CasKru** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:48 am

As hy nie in 'n ongeluk was nie en kan jy seker kyk na so R70K na R80K m2cw

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:50 am

Dan moet ek gou spring voor hy onder my gai uit is...........

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:53 am

Ek dink hy het iets 'n stootjie gegee...
Nuwe bonnet ,fenders, bullbar ens

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:54 am

Maak seker nie regtig saak of dit 'n Raider is of nie. Solank hy netjies lyk,nie onnodig roes het nie en alles werk is die saak reg. Prys? Afhangende van bogenoemde sal ek nie meer as so R65K vir hom betaal nie...

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:58 am

ThysdJ wrote:Maak seker nie regtig saak of dit 'n Raider is of nie. Solank hy netjies lyk,nie onnodig roes het nie en alles werk is die saak reg. Prys? Afhangende van bogenoemde sal ek nie meer as so R65K vir hom betaal nie...

Dankie

MOFASA · Post by **MOFASA** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:49 pm

What are they asking for it??

Looks good........

I agree with Thys, wont pay more than R60 to R65k for it.....

Post by **Mud Dog** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:25 pm

I don't believe that was an original Raider, dash is wrong - no diffloc. I think it's just had a cosmetic 'upgrade'. The grille looks like it's been replaced with a pirate one, so maybe it had a bit of a 'front-ender' .... look inside the engine bay at the radiator / front firewall for signs of bodywork. With those kilos, even in good nick, max in my book would be 70k depending on any extras.

Post by **CasKru** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:50 pm

Mud Dog wrote:I don't believe that was an original Raider, dash is wrong - no diffloc. I think it's just had a cosmetic 'upgrade'. The grille looks like it's been replaced with a pirate one, so maybe it had a bit of a 'front-ender' .... look inside the engine bay at the radiator / front firewall for signs of bodywork. With those kilos, even in good nick, max in my book would be 70k depending on any extras.

What is wrong with the dash? Looks the same as mine and mine is a Raider?

Post by **Family_Dog** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:23 pm

Cassie, I think what Andy is saying is that it doesn't have a Kenwood 2-way radio mounted in the dash... ;)

-F_D

Post by **Baasvark** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:41 pm

Are the seats the right colour for a '97 white SFA ?

Mine aren't grey....?

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:35 am

CasKru wrote:
Mud Dog wrote:I don't believe that was an original Raider, dash is wrong - no diffloc. I think it's just had a cosmetic 'upgrade'. The grille looks like it's been replaced with a pirate one, so maybe it had a bit of a 'front-ender' .... look inside the engine bay at the radiator / front firewall for signs of bodywork. With those kilos, even in good nick, max in my book would be 70k depending on any extras.
What is wrong with the dash? Looks the same as mine and mine is a Raider?

All Raider models from '95 came standard with diff-lock, so instead of the little panel with the LED to the right of the steering column, there would have been a diff-lock switch with "activate" and "engage" signal lamps. To the right of that, the pic shows the old "coin pocket" .... I might be wrong, but I think that the '97 would already have had a flat panel with an immobiliser socket instead.

What year model is yours Cassie? And does it have the coin pocket?

Vlak vark · Post by **Vlak vark** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:28 am

Mine is not a rider but the dash has the imobilizer in. Aren't the bumber / towbar sopose to have the
Round bend comming to the side.

Post by **CasKru** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:47 am

Family_Dog wrote:Cassie, I think what Andy is saying is that it doesn't have a Kenwood 2-way radio mounted in the dash... ;)

-F_D

Bwahahaha

Andy mine is a 94 model and has an after market Gearmax.

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:10 am

sales man is not awnsering his phone....... R50 000.00
ges he already stole someone elses moola.

If his deal is real he can deliver next week.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:41 am

GeorgeJvR wrote:sales man is not awnsering his phone....... R50 000.00
ges he already stole someone elses moola.

If his deal is real he can deliver next week.

At 7am on a Saturday he might still be dozing, maybe even nursing a 'babbelaas'.

Agteros · Post by **Agteros** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:30 am

GeorgeJvR wrote:sales man is not awnsering his phone....... R50 000.00
ges he already stole someone elses moola.

If his deal is real he can deliver next week.

R 50 000 ?? Dit lyk na 'n steel. Tensy die bakkie iewers gebuig is.
My 1986 lyk ook so en was nie in 'n ongeluk nie. Het hom nou al dertien jaar en net 'n plesier.

smokintyres · Post by **smokintyres** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:46 pm

George I just browsed on NAMCARS.COM.NA and saw this:

Either the scam is on us Namibians or on you. Please be very careful with any transfers without physically seeing the bakkie!!!

If anyone has got George's Cell phone number, please warn him!

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 2:32 pm

Definitely smells like a scam. Service history and mileage don't agree with what George was told either.

raider · Post by **raider** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:13 pm

Mud Dog wrote:I don't believe that was an original Raider, dash is wrong - no diffloc. I think it's just had a cosmetic 'upgrade'. The grille looks like it's been replaced with a pirate one, so maybe it had a bit of a 'front-ender' .... look inside the engine bay at the radiator / front firewall for signs of bodywork. With those kilos, even in good nick, max in my book would be 70k depending on any extras.

We own a 1996 Raider 4x4 from new, it came with the adventure pack which included, alloy rims, yokohama super digger v tyres, rollbar, bullbar, side steps but no diffloc. diffloc was optional, think that came standard on 1998 limited models.

smokintyres · Post by **smokintyres** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:33 pm

Mud Dog wrote:Definitely smells like a scam. Service history and mileage don't agree with what George was told either.

Tried to get hold of the dealer in Swakopmund, unfortunately no answer; but studying the pictures closely, I believe they were in fact taken in Swakop, would also explain the paint job on the diff etc.
It's not the first time I hear about such a scenario, where a car listed on a Namibian second hand car website actually appears on the South African market! The fact that the number plates had been taken off, makes it even easier to hide the scam.

Let's hope for the best!

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:55 pm

raider wrote:
Mud Dog wrote:I don't believe that was an original Raider, dash is wrong - no diffloc. I think it's just had a cosmetic 'upgrade'. The grille looks like it's been replaced with a pirate one, so maybe it had a bit of a 'front-ender' .... look inside the engine bay at the radiator / front firewall for signs of bodywork. With those kilos, even in good nick, max in my book would be 70k depending on any extras.
We own a 1996 Raider 4x4 from new, it came with the adventure pack which included, alloy rims, yokohama super digger v tyres, rollbar, bullbar, side steps but no diffloc. diffloc was optional, think that came standard on 1998 limited models.

Zubair, according to the info in my manual, all raiders with 2.4 lit 22R motors had diffloc as standard, the earlier ones that were available with 2.2lit 4Y motor did not. To the best of my recollection, this seems to have been corroborated over time by members here, but if this info is not accurate it would be interesting to know.

Has anyone else got a genuine 2.4 Raider (i.e. not cosmetically upgraded) that doesn't have a rear locker?

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:51 pm

My LTD has the difloc std as you would also know Uncle Andy...a mate of mine has the '97 Raider also Difllock std on the Gearmax.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:26 pm

That's what I would have expected according to my info, Stef. What I want to know is if my info is correct, and if there is anyone that has got a genuine 2.4 Raider that doesn't have a standard rear locker.

Post by **CasKru** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:46 am

Andy... mine is a 1994 2.4 petrol double cab raider (22R) and did not come with a diff loc as standard equipment.

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:43 am

We'll as all of you probably know by now i'm a sucker for a good deal.
I'm "addicted to wheeling and dealing"

Lukely i didn;t fell in to this guys trap

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:09 am

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smokintyres · Post by **smokintyres** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:03 am

GeorgeJvR wrote:We'll as all of you probably know by now i'm a sucker for a good deal.
I'm "addicted to wheeling and dealing"

Lukely i didn;t fell in to this guys trap

I am glad you didn't fall into this trap! Unfortunately someone else probably will, if not through this advertisement then through another. Unbelievable how many scum bags are out there!

Good luck in finding a SFA soon!

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Thu May 16, 2013 2:44 pm

Possibly another scam...
I'm trying to get it delivered

If it's for real i'll gladely pay up ...
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smokintyres · Post by **smokintyres** » Thu May 16, 2013 3:21 pm

Well, I know for sure that the bakkie is standing at the dealer in Swakopmund. But, it's worth a shot to get the bakkie delivered to you strictly on CoD basis for the price stated!! Keep us posted

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Thu May 16, 2013 3:39 pm

Sorry wanted to ad this link

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zoeper · Post by **zoeper** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:23 pm

Ek het 'n oorspronklike (ek glo so) SFA 2.4 (22R) 4x4 DC Raider

Volgens oorspronklike dokumentasie:
Model: RN67R-MDPNS
Beskrywing: Hilux LWB 4x4 D/cab Raider
Engine: 22R
Kleur: PT90
Trim: TR2G
Datum: 02/96

My Hilux het wel die plat paneel regs van die stuurwiel met immobiliseerder socket, maar geen difflock!

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:25 am

zoeper wrote:Ek het 'n oorspronklike (ek glo so) SFA 2.4 (22R) 4x4 DC Raider

Volgens oorspronklike dokumentasie:
Model: RN67R-MDPNS
Beskrywing: Hilux LWB 4x4 D/cab Raider
Engine: 22R
Kleur: PT90
Trim: TR2G
Datum: 02/96

My Hilux het wel die plat paneel regs van die stuurwiel met immobiliseerder socket, maar geen difflock!

Iets klink verkeerd Daai Model "RN......" is volgens my kennis nie in D/C uit gebring nie en dis nie die selfde form body as ons D/C bakkies van +/- 1985 to 1998 nie

Die RN shape staan ook bekend as die "Stout shape"

Asb manne help my reg as ek verkeerd is, maar dis hoe ek dit het.

Bliksempie · Post by **Bliksempie** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:28 am

Mud Dog wrote:That's what I would have expected according to my info, Stef. What I want to know is if my info is correct, and if there is anyone that has got a genuine 2.4 Raider that doesn't have a standard rear locker.

Andy,

Same here. I have a 1997 model 22R. No Diff-Lock on mine.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:41 am

It would then seem like the info printed in my manual is incorrect.