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Wow - you can't even make out the type of the other car.
I just hoped everyone was ok.

"News24 user "Mike" submitted this photograph of an accident on Sir Lowry's Pass outside Gordons Bay in the Western Cape on 3 February."
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Bliks3m... that must have been some impact... even the Hiluxes body(maybe even chassis) is distorted!
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Rieks wrote:Wow - you can't even make out the type of the other car.
I just hoped everyone was ok.

"News24 user "Mike" submitted this photograph of an accident on Sir Lowry's Pass outside Gordons Bay in the Western Cape on 3 February."
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By the looks of the white sheet covering "someone" I would guess that everyone is NOT OK.
Just because it says "4WD" doesn't make it an off-road vehicle.
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Mountain Man wrote:
Rieks wrote:Wow - you can't even make out the type of the other car.
I just hoped everyone was ok.

"News24 user "Mike" submitted this photograph of an accident on Sir Lowry's Pass outside Gordons Bay in the Western Cape on 3 February."
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By the looks of the white sheet covering "someone" I would guess that everyone is NOT OK.
Was thinking the same thing :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
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This is very sad :cry:
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Not lekker! Ja, it looks like a corpse with a sheet over it on the far side. :(

Also looks like the rear of the other vehicle is facing the camera, so it could just be that the rear crumple zone is impacted, making it look a lot worse. Wonder what vehicle that is ..... seen that tail light configuration, but cannot identify ... looks like a Merc?. :think:
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Sad dat daar so baie padsterftes is! :thumbdown:
Lees dat die bakkie se passasiers redlik lig afgekom het ongelukkig nie dieselfde storie met die kar nie
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it's that bumber and the height of the vehicle in my opinion? would not mind rims like that though. jeeze louis
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Mud Dog wrote:Not lekker! Ja, it looks like a corpse with a sheet over it on the far side. :(

Also looks like the rear of the other vehicle is facing the camera, so it could just be that the rear crumple zone is impacted, making it look a lot worse. Wonder what vehicle that is ..... seen that tail light configuration, but cannot identify ... looks like a Merc?. :think:
Looks like the Hilux impacted the roof area. So possible the vehicle was already on its side when the Hilux impacted it or it was rolling toward the Hilux. But either way the impact seems to be focused on the roof area.
Just because it says "4WD" doesn't make it an off-road vehicle.
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Sjoe, dit is nie mooi om te sien nie!!! Dit is jammer dat daar so baie pad sterftes is!!!! Ek glo as ek die foto so kyk asook die een op die ER24 blog dat daai SFA se chassis wel ligtelik gebuig sal wees. Andy, looking at the pic the vehicle looks like Ford based on the type of wheel in the pic of the blog, but nonetheless it is scary to see people die like that on our roads.
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at the risk of seeming unsensitized

hence why I prefer to travel in a Big vehicle, despite what might be said about safety, crumple zones, Ncap tests of the 4x4s
you cant beat the cocoon that a D/C offeres
reason why4x4s dont do well in Ncap tests, is that they are unsafe for pedestrians and the occupants of other smaller vehicles
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Ai ek en die Blond het self verby die ongeluk gery gisteraand oppad huis toe. Die kar het gelyk soos n Ford Ikon. Die groot elektroniese inligtingsborde aan die voet van die pass het nogal die ongeluk aangedui. Wys darem hulle gebruik die goed waarvoor dit bedoel is en ons belasting geldjies word so af en toe goed benut. Maar ja ons ry elke oggend en aand daai pad en ook heelwat met die motorfiets. Bly maar gevaarlik. Hartseer oor die sterfte maar ook oor die LTD Hilux...
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My simpatie vir die naasbestaandes. Niks gemik op die ongeluk, maar ons wat daagliks die pas gebruik sien vreeslike goed soos mense op die stukkie pad ry.

Volgens die foto was die bakkie op pad op, so die ander kar het heelmoontlik met gister se ligte reen op die berg oppad af gegly in die aankomende verkeer in.

Dis 'n lekker pad om tery, maar mense misgis hul met die draaie as jy afkom veral in die reen en trap dan rem in die draai, wat 'n groot fout is, rem voor die draai.

En wat grootste deel van die mense nie besef nie is dat die twee bane af nie die selfde spoed grens het nie. Die linker baan is 50 en die binne baan 70. Die ouens staan gereeld met die kamera in die pas. So as jy op 70 in die binne baan is en iemand wil van agter verby kom en jy gepad na lings (soos die pad reel sê) is jy onmiddelik 20 km oor jou spoed en die kamera vang jou. Dus raak mense ongeduldig as jy nie na lings beweek teen 70km nie en kom agresiewe bestuur na vore.
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Ek was saam met 'n klient op 'n toetsrit teen die berg uit toe die ongeluk voor ons gebeur. Daar was 'n trok tussen ons en die bakkie so ek kon eers sien toe ons verby beweeg, maar ek sou ook raai dat die motor van bo af gekom en beheer verloor het in die sterk wind en ligte reen.

Die nooddienste was vinnig op die toneel :thumbup:
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swartvark wrote:Ek was saam met 'n klient op 'n toetsrit teen die berg uit toe die ongeluk voor ons gebeur. Daar was 'n trok tussen ons en die bakkie so ek kon eers sien toe ons verby beweeg, maar ek sou ook raai dat die motor van bo af gekom en beheer verloor het in die sterk wind en ligte reen.

Die nooddienste was vinnig op die toneel :thumbup:
Did you see whether the Hilux was from around our area... ie did you see the number plate.... That pass catches people all the time, and is a nightmare in the wind.... I have towed a trailer and caravan down that pass in the wind, very frightening experience. Very sad
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Very nasty

A friend of mine wrote off his mom's Merc on that sharp hairpin, a truck had broken down just out of sight around the corner in the innermost lane. He didn't see it until just before he hit it. No warning triangle or anything deployed. Those overhead signs weren't there yet (~8 years ago), could have saved him a lot of time in hospital.

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Die linker baan is 50 en die binne baan 70. Die ouens staan gereeld met die kamera in die pas. So as jy op 70 in die binne baan is en iemand wil van agter verby kom en jy gepad na lings (soos die pad reel sê) is jy onmiddelik 20 km oor jou spoed en die kamera vang jou. Dus raak mense ongeduldig as jy nie na lings beweek teen 70km nie en kom agresiewe bestuur na vore.
Eish daai is vir my nuus, geen wonder almal ry altyd so stadig die pas uit nie. Is maar goed hulle het nog nie met die kamera gestaan toe ke daar verby gekom het nie, my lorrie haal darem 90 teen die pas uit
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dit is n hartseer realiteit dat BAIE mense JAAG op daai stuk pad.

en n STADIGE trok, versigtige kar en jaagduiwel werk nie lekker saam met twee lane nie .... daar is gereeld ongelukke, en baie sterftes op daai pad.


LET WEL - ek weet NIE, wat aanleiding gegee het tot die spesifieke ongeluk nie, en maak geen aantuigings in die geval nie.


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LEON daar is n baie groot kans dat die ongeluk opgeneem is deur die kameras. Al meer van die ongelukke se video snitte word nou beskikbaar gestel om mense te wys net hoe vinnig dinge verkeerd loop .....
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Wil nou nie 'n negatiewe smaak in die mond los nie, maar dink julle nie die arme ou in die motor sou dalk nog geleef het as die bakkie dalk sy gewone bumper op gehad het nie?? Lyk of die bakkie een van daai aftermarket bumpers op het.

Dit moes darem een hengse inpak gewees het. Baie sad.
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GI Jane wrote:
swartvark wrote:Ek was saam met 'n klient op 'n toetsrit teen die berg uit toe die ongeluk voor ons gebeur. Daar was 'n trok tussen ons en die bakkie so ek kon eers sien toe ons verby beweeg, maar ek sou ook raai dat die motor van bo af gekom en beheer verloor het in die sterk wind en ligte reen.

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Dit was n LTD en soos ek onthou het hy standaard met n staal bumper uitgekom.
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African Child wrote:Dit was n LTD en soos ek onthou het hy standaard met n staal bumper uitgekom.
Dis reg, en hy's ook nie van dik yster gemaak nie .... so 1.8 / 2 mm gauge plaat alhoewel die winch box ietwat dikker is .. so om en by 8mm, nogal stewig, en dis tussen die chassis rails voor.
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Daai lyk vir my meer na 'n nuwe Polo. Kyk na die wieldop.
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Maar die Focus het ook sulke tipe doppe.
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Nope, dis nie 'n polo sedan nie.
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Is vandag weer by die pas op - en die laaties jaag al weer .... eintlik verbasend daar is nie meer ongelukke op daai pas nie ....


en die probleem is wanneer daai manne so jaag sny hulle die hoeke en die onskuldige ou van voor af het nerens om uit te swaai nie
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swartvark wrote:
GI Jane wrote:
swartvark wrote:Ek was saam met 'n klient op 'n toetsrit teen die berg uit toe die ongeluk voor ons gebeur. Daar was 'n trok tussen ons en die bakkie so ek kon eers sien toe ons verby beweeg, maar ek sou ook raai dat die motor van bo af gekom en beheer verloor het in die sterk wind en ligte reen.

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Jip........CEY numberplate.
Thanks.... thought it was one that I had seen around here before...
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pietpetoors wrote:
Die linker baan is 50 en die binne baan 70. Die ouens staan gereeld met die kamera in die pas. So as jy op 70 in die binne baan is en iemand wil van agter verby kom en jy gepad na lings (soos die pad reel sê) is jy onmiddelik 20 km oor jou spoed en die kamera vang jou. Dus raak mense ongeduldig as jy nie na lings beweek teen 70km nie en kom agresiewe bestuur na vore.
Eish daai is vir my nuus, geen wonder almal ry altyd so stadig die pas uit nie. Is maar goed hulle het nog nie met die kamera gestaan toe ke daar verby gekom het nie, my lorrie haal darem 90 teen die pas uit
i believe the pass only has this duel speed limit in place when coming down.... and i suspect its mainly for the trucks, but i'm sure the fuzz will use it to their own enrichment none-the-less.

The speed limit going up is 80 in both lanes ??

But i'm still trying to figure out how this happened. From the pic it looks like the lux is standing uphill. From that i can only deduce that the car must have stood still, cause there is no way a SFA could rocket up that hill at speeds needed for that type of impact if they both moving ??
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dalkill wrote:
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Die linker baan is 50 en die binne baan 70. Die ouens staan gereeld met die kamera in die pas. So as jy op 70 in die binne baan is en iemand wil van agter verby kom en jy gepad na lings (soos die pad reel sê) is jy onmiddelik 20 km oor jou spoed en die kamera vang jou. Dus raak mense ongeduldig as jy nie na lings beweek teen 70km nie en kom agresiewe bestuur na vore.
Eish daai is vir my nuus, geen wonder almal ry altyd so stadig die pas uit nie. Is maar goed hulle het nog nie met die kamera gestaan toe ke daar verby gekom het nie, my lorrie haal darem 90 teen die pas uit
i believe the pass only has this duel speed limit in place when coming down.... and i suspect its mainly for the trucks, but i'm sure the fuzz will use it to their own enrichment none-the-less.

The speed limit going up is 80 in both lanes ??

But i'm still trying to figure out how this happened. From the pic it looks like the lux is standing uphill. From that i can only deduce that the car must have stood still, cause there is no way a SFA could rocket up that hill at speeds needed for that type of impact if they both moving ??
Ek het weer gekyk, die spoed bo op die pas soos jy af kom is 60 buite 80 binne en so van die middel tot verby die laaste harnald draai is dit 50/70 en dis nie net vir trokke nie, dis vir alle voertuie.

Vandag weer gesien hoe mense ongeduldig raak as jy jou spoed hou in die vinnigebaan of soos ek in elkgeval so 10km oor my spoed is en hul wil verby jaar en moet dan in die stadigebaan in gaan.
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Oja en trokke mag nie in die vinnige baan wees nie hul moet in die linkerbaan bly, asof hulle hulle daaraan steur??/
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Shaakir wat normaalweg gebeur is dat iemand haastig raak en hom dan misgis met een van die draaie .... dan gaan hulle oor die middel lyn en het die aankomende verkeer nerens heen om te gaan nie. OF die skrik en klim op die brieke ... as die gat eers uitswaai moet jy maar bid niemand kom van vooraf nie ....


As daai bakkie op gery het teen 80km/h en die motor het afgekom teen 80km/h (waarskynlik vinniger) is dit n 160km/h ongeluk !!
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The "Icon" had damage along the whole left hand side and on the back of the vehicle.............so I believe it lost control coming down the pass, hit the barrier and spun over the road into the oncoming traffic. It was wet and very windy when it happened. :eh:
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