Vakansie in n toergroep
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Vakansie in n toergroep
Is dit net ek wat dink die tipe toergroep vakansies, wat byvoorbeeld in WEG, geadverteer word is baie duur. R17,800 per persoon vir 10 dae. Jou eie voertuig en brandstof. Drie etes per dag en tent verblyf word verskaf en n toergids. Indien my brandstof R10,000 beloop, is die kostes R45,800. Jammer maar ek weet nie hoe bekostig/regverdig mens so n uitgawe vir 10 dae in die Noord Kaap en suid Namibie nie.
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
Stem saam met jou Andre.Daardie pryse kan ek ook nie bekostig nie. Baie van daardie plekke kan net besoek word saam net n toerleier wat n permit vir die area het.
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
Jissie, om amper R5000 n dag uit te gee is bleddie baie
Maar ek dink, soos in my geval waar ek geen toer kennis het nie,
is dit maar die enigste manier om dit te doen todat n mens dit op
jou eie kan doen.
Maar ek dink, soos in my geval waar ek geen toer kennis het nie,
is dit maar die enigste manier om dit te doen todat n mens dit op
jou eie kan doen.
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
Volgens my is dit ook ver te duur.
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
You guys pm Haboob here on the forum.He is really a very good trip planner and travels every year for a about 3 weeks to Namibia,Botswana etc and has a wealth of travelling knowledge and experience which he will be more than eager to share with you. He travels mostly alone with his swambo and really goes off the beaten track on his travels.
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
Ek het al begin djnk dis net ek wat dit nie kan bekostig nie... Maar baie mense moet kan want anders sou hul besigheid ten gronde gegaan het. Scary.
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
Een van die mense wat ek ken verdien R40 000 n WEEK om klas te aan te bied vir Human Resources.grobbepj wrote:Ek het al begin djnk dis net ek wat dit nie kan bekostig nie... Maar baie mense moet kan want anders sou hul besigheid ten gronde gegaan het. Scary.
Dis nou scary
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
Nou is ek sommer meer depressed as net die sunday blues...4x4BEES wrote:Een van die mense wat ek ken verdien R40 000 n WEEK om klas te aan te bied vir Human Resources.grobbepj wrote:Ek het al begin djnk dis net ek wat dit nie kan bekostig nie... Maar baie mense moet kan want anders sou hul besigheid ten gronde gegaan het. Scary.
Dis nou scary
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
basically 4 options -
- wing it and drive on your own .... when you dont know the area you are bound to drive right past some good spots, and this typically means doing it on your own, with little to no back up ....
- join friends, who know a bit about the area .... probably the cheapest, and arguably the best way - IF you and your friends are compatible on tour !! Good braai buddies DONT mean you share the same ideas of traveling ...
- join a club and join their tours .... my experience with this was that their best tours are outside of peak times - when we have to work. But if the time works THIS can be excellent. PS - first join them on a few local tours to make sure you are compatible tour buddies.
NONE of these options will get you into the "Sper gebied" and verious other areas that require a dedicated guide (unless the club sets up a very special tour)
So option 4 sees you back at PAYING for a guide and the guys putting it all together ....
en nee, ek kan dit ook nie bekostig nie
- wing it and drive on your own .... when you dont know the area you are bound to drive right past some good spots, and this typically means doing it on your own, with little to no back up ....
- join friends, who know a bit about the area .... probably the cheapest, and arguably the best way - IF you and your friends are compatible on tour !! Good braai buddies DONT mean you share the same ideas of traveling ...
- join a club and join their tours .... my experience with this was that their best tours are outside of peak times - when we have to work. But if the time works THIS can be excellent. PS - first join them on a few local tours to make sure you are compatible tour buddies.
NONE of these options will get you into the "Sper gebied" and verious other areas that require a dedicated guide (unless the club sets up a very special tour)
So option 4 sees you back at PAYING for a guide and the guys putting it all together ....
en nee, ek kan dit ook nie bekostig nie
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
I'm with you Andre.
I work in the tourism field here, mostly with clients from the US & Australia. They pay on average USD 450pp/day for their trips here and that includes most meals, 4 & 5 Star hotels AND transport locally for 19 days (but not flights).
Permit to the 'Sperre Gebied' or not, I think these local operators are ripping off the locals BIG TIME!
I work in the tourism field here, mostly with clients from the US & Australia. They pay on average USD 450pp/day for their trips here and that includes most meals, 4 & 5 Star hotels AND transport locally for 19 days (but not flights).
Permit to the 'Sperre Gebied' or not, I think these local operators are ripping off the locals BIG TIME!
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Ag julle armgatte!
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
Ek was al op so 'n toer Dit is belaglik
Die 3 etes per dag is armsalig Dit is net pasta en brood
Ek het in Botswana my eie vleis gaan koop en daar gebraai wat groot ongelukkigheid veroorsaak het
EK HET AL DIE PLEKKE OP MY EIE GAAN BESOEK EN WAS NIE EERS 25% VAN HULLE kostes nie en ek kon kies hoe lank ek op 'n plek wil bly of nie
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Die 3 etes per dag is armsalig Dit is net pasta en brood
Ek het in Botswana my eie vleis gaan koop en daar gebraai wat groot ongelukkigheid veroorsaak het
EK HET AL DIE PLEKKE OP MY EIE GAAN BESOEK EN WAS NIE EERS 25% VAN HULLE kostes nie en ek kon kies hoe lank ek op 'n plek wil bly of nie
Selftoer die in ding
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
Thabogrobler wrote:Ag julle armgatte!
Hou tog op kla!
(Ek is op die oomblik ook seker deel van daai 'armgatte' - :shifty: )
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
ons eerste Namibie toer SOU n begeleide toer wees, met een van die klubs wat oorgrens toere doen ..Damaruri wrote:Ek was al op so 'n toer Dit is belaglik
Die 3 etes per dag is armsalig Dit is net pasta en brood
Ek het in Botswana my eie vleis gaan koop en daar gebraai wat groot ongelukkigheid veroorsaak het
EK HET AL DIE PLEKKE OP MY EIE GAAN BESOEK EN WAS NIE EERS 25% VAN HULLE kostes nie en ek kon kies hoe lank ek op 'n plek wil bly of nie
Selftoer die in ding
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
Ek self sal nie so iets doen nie.Deel van die pret is om jou eie kos mos te maak.As jy self gaan is dit BAIE goedkoper.
Maar ek wil net by las.SO 'n ruk terug het ek my toer gids kursus gedoen en wou ook so iets aanpak. Ek het baie somme gedoen en as jy 'n lewe wil maak uit die bedryf dan raak daai pryse 'n realiteit. Ek het baie van die manne se toere bestudeer en nie baie toergroepe gaan na "spesiale" plekke toe nie.Meeste is waar enige ou kan gaan.Nou nie almal nie.
Maar ek wil net by las.SO 'n ruk terug het ek my toer gids kursus gedoen en wou ook so iets aanpak. Ek het baie somme gedoen en as jy 'n lewe wil maak uit die bedryf dan raak daai pryse 'n realiteit. Ek het baie van die manne se toere bestudeer en nie baie toergroepe gaan na "spesiale" plekke toe nie.Meeste is waar enige ou kan gaan.Nou nie almal nie.
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
Danie ek voel nou nie meer so n arm gat nie.................sal ook eerder die alleen ding doen, of miskien kan die Hilux manne iets reel???
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
+1 ek ook.Mud Dog wrote:Thabogrobler wrote:Ag julle armgatte!
Hou tog op kla!
(Ek is op die oomblik ook seker deel van daai 'armgatte' - :shifty: )
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
+2Wurmscooby wrote:+1 ek ook.Mud Dog wrote:Thabogrobler wrote:Ag julle armgatte!
Hou tog op kla!
(Ek is op die oomblik ook seker deel van daai 'armgatte' - :shifty: )
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
moenie sleg voel nieAquanaut wrote:+2Wurmscooby wrote:+1 ek ook.Mud Dog wrote:Thabogrobler wrote:Ag julle armgatte!
Hou tog op kla!
(Ek is op die oomblik ook seker deel van daai 'armgatte' - :shifty: )
meer van ONS as van daai met te veel geld ... of is dit
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
Ons doen ook nie die toergroep ding nie.. Die lekkerste gedeelte van die hele vakansie is juis die hele beplanningsfase... Roete uitwerk, plekke wat besoek gaan word, die ure op die internet waar ons navorsing doen oor al die lekker dingetjies, en dan breek die groot dag aan en ons begin ry... So eintlik hou ons vir 6 maande lank vakansie, al is ons net vir 3 weke op toer...
Geen ondervinding word benodig om toere te beplan nie, net 'n sin vir avontuur....
Geen ondervinding word benodig om toere te beplan nie, net 'n sin vir avontuur....
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
As ek met vakansie gaan wil ek so min mense as moontlik sien en ek wil glad nie afhanklik wees van ander se besluite nie, maar werk biekie jou somme uit en sien of jy daai toer vir goedkoper kan aanbied met n profesionele gids, voertuig ens.
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
Ek sien a plek waarheen ek wil gaan, al die aantrekkings op pad soentoe, geen besprekings, klim in die bakkie en ry. As daar kamp plek is, mooi, as daar nie is nie, slap in die bakkie. Maar dit het nog nie gebeur nie. Altyd a kamp plek gekry en die mense is altyd baie hulpvaardig. Bly so lank as jy wil en vertrek wanneer jy wil. dit is mos n vakansie??
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
Basil, I disagreewith your theory.
When I go overlanding, I go to see as much as possible in my three week tour.
If you see two or three places a year you will not get through the biggest part of your wish list before you are no longer able to do this thing anymore.
If I want to sit under the tree and relax and read a book, then I'll stay home and do this for next to nothing.
I get bored doing nothing so like to keep moving to see as much as possible in a day.
I do not rush, but when I have had enough sleep & rest, I get up and move to the next destination after coffee & rusks.
I prefer leaving early in the morning and getting to my chosen campsite well before dark, without rushing.
This is not always possible because of the terrain and local populations inhabiting the area.
I plan my trips, but do not book, unless visiting popular game parks, especially in foreign countries (otherwise it is a long drive and you get no place).
I mostly try and travel out of school holidays, which is cheaper, less crowded and unneccessary to book at normal Parks or campsites.
When I go overlanding, I go to see as much as possible in my three week tour.
If you see two or three places a year you will not get through the biggest part of your wish list before you are no longer able to do this thing anymore.
If I want to sit under the tree and relax and read a book, then I'll stay home and do this for next to nothing.
I get bored doing nothing so like to keep moving to see as much as possible in a day.
I do not rush, but when I have had enough sleep & rest, I get up and move to the next destination after coffee & rusks.
I prefer leaving early in the morning and getting to my chosen campsite well before dark, without rushing.
This is not always possible because of the terrain and local populations inhabiting the area.
I plan my trips, but do not book, unless visiting popular game parks, especially in foreign countries (otherwise it is a long drive and you get no place).
I mostly try and travel out of school holidays, which is cheaper, less crowded and unneccessary to book at normal Parks or campsites.
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
gelukkig vir die toer operateurs is daar mense wat dit nie wil waag sonder leier nie.
ongelukkig vir hulle hou ek van my eie ding doen(natuurlik in n klein groepie voertuie)!
maar hoe gemaak as daar n area/konsessie is waar jy slegs saam met hul mag ingaan?
ongelukkig vir hulle hou ek van my eie ding doen(natuurlik in n klein groepie voertuie)!
maar hoe gemaak as daar n area/konsessie is waar jy slegs saam met hul mag ingaan?
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
What are you disagreeing with, that is exactly what I said. Nobody telling you to do anything you don't want to do. Find a nice place and stay a couple of days or keep on travelling until the next interesting site. Your time is your own, that is all that I was saying.Haboob wrote:Basil, I disagreewith your theory.
When I go overlanding, I go to see as much as possible in my three week tour.
If you see two or three places a year you will not get through the biggest part of your wish list before you are no longer able to do this thing anymore.
If I want to sit under the tree and relax and read a book, then I'll stay home and do this for next to nothing.
I get bored doing nothing so like to keep moving to see as much as possible in a day.
I do not rush, but when I have had enough sleep & rest, I get up and move to the next destination after coffee & rusks.
I prefer leaving early in the morning and getting to my chosen campsite well before dark, without rushing.
This is not always possible because of the terrain and local populations inhabiting the area.
I plan my trips, but do not book, unless visiting popular game parks, especially in foreign countries (otherwise it is a long drive and you get no place).
I mostly try and travel out of school holidays, which is cheaper, less crowded and unneccessary to book at normal Parks or campsites.
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Re: Vakansie in n toergroep
nou HIER waar mens versigtig moet wees saam met wie jy op toer gaan !!!Aquanaut wrote:Ek sien a plek waarheen ek wil gaan, al die aantrekkings op pad soentoe, geen besprekings, klim in die bakkie en ry. As daar kamp plek is, mooi, as daar nie is nie, slap in die bakkie. Maar dit het nog nie gebeur nie. Altyd a kamp plek gekry en die mense is altyd baie hulpvaardig. Bly so lank as jy wil en vertrek wanneer jy wil. dit is mos n vakansie??
My vrou kla altyd ons ry te veel, en spandeer te min tyd by een plek ... Dan het ons vriende wat NOG meer wil ry ...
baie fyn balans !!
ek probeer so elke 4 dae om twee nagte op een plek oor te slaap, net om bietjie asem te skep vir die volgende skof ....
ons beplan nou weer n heel ander ervaring !! 3 dae van die Kaap tot Namibie, dan 4 dae in n permit gebied met minimum ry, dan 3 dae terug Kaap toe ..... sal maar sien of dit SO uitwerk ! Normaalweg is ek DIK verveeld teen die oggend van dag twee .... Die keer wil ek AFSKAKEL, en konsentreer op my fotos, hopelik ook n klompie nag fotos.