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Best Generator for residential house?
What would be the best generator to buy for our EKSDOM blackouts.
I am already on gas cooking, so that is sorted.
What would be the best gennie to get? 5kva? Diesel? Petrol?
Maintenance pro's and con's?
There are so many options out there, and it seems every Tom, Dick and Harry now starts selling gennies.
Any forum members that I can support, before supporting the BIG Companies?
I am already on gas cooking, so that is sorted.
What would be the best gennie to get? 5kva? Diesel? Petrol?
Maintenance pro's and con's?
There are so many options out there, and it seems every Tom, Dick and Harry now starts selling gennies.
Any forum members that I can support, before supporting the BIG Companies?
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I have ordered a Honda EG6500CXS (5.5kVa). Very expensive but I am now gatvol to be at the mercy of EKSDOM. I hope I made he correct choice.
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WHAT do YOU expect the genny to do ?
the "right" genny will be totally different for each home.
stove - NO, rather go gas
geyser - HECK NO !! rather go solar
dish washer .... hope not.
washing machine - NO - with the combination of motors and electronics I would rather not use a cheap genny on these.
home aircon .... hope not
pool pump ..... hope not
kettle - heat water on the gas stove
microwave .... uhm rather not
Lights - minimal power needed from the genny
Fridges and freezers - these can easily weather a 2 hour load shed .... though THIS is most certainly THEE best reason to buy a genny IF you are one of the areas where "load shedding" lasts 10 hours at a time
only thing that remains - TV's, computers, and all the electronics that define our modern lives - these DONT like the bad wave forms of cheap gennies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thus, depending what YOU want to power - somewhere between 2,5 and 5kVA should do the job - IF it can give a decent sine wave.
now for the BIG question - HOW do you want to use it ?
- manually run a lead and connect the fridge and tv to the genny ??
- get a serious installation that does an auto switchover .... this will require some serious thought about the size of the genny, and a DUAL DB board to split the essential and non-essential circuits ..... NOU PRAAT JY GELD !!
the "right" genny will be totally different for each home.
stove - NO, rather go gas
geyser - HECK NO !! rather go solar
dish washer .... hope not.
washing machine - NO - with the combination of motors and electronics I would rather not use a cheap genny on these.
home aircon .... hope not
pool pump ..... hope not
kettle - heat water on the gas stove
microwave .... uhm rather not
Lights - minimal power needed from the genny
Fridges and freezers - these can easily weather a 2 hour load shed .... though THIS is most certainly THEE best reason to buy a genny IF you are one of the areas where "load shedding" lasts 10 hours at a time
only thing that remains - TV's, computers, and all the electronics that define our modern lives - these DONT like the bad wave forms of cheap gennies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thus, depending what YOU want to power - somewhere between 2,5 and 5kVA should do the job - IF it can give a decent sine wave.
now for the BIG question - HOW do you want to use it ?
- manually run a lead and connect the fridge and tv to the genny ??
- get a serious installation that does an auto switchover .... this will require some serious thought about the size of the genny, and a DUAL DB board to split the essential and non-essential circuits ..... NOU PRAAT JY GELD !!
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ChrisF wrote:WHAT do YOU expect the genny to do ?
the "right" genny will be totally different for each home.
stove - NO, rather go gas
geyser - HECK NO !! rather go solar
dish washer .... hope not.
washing machine - NO - with the combination of motors and electronics I would rather not use a cheap genny on these.
home aircon .... hope not
pool pump ..... hope not
kettle - heat water on the gas stove
microwave .... uhm rather not
Lights - minimal power needed from the genny
Fridges and freezers - these can easily weather a 2 hour load shed .... though THIS is most certainly THEE best reason to buy a genny IF you are one of the areas where "load shedding" lasts 10 hours at a time
only thing that remains - TV's, computers, and all the electronics that define our modern lives - these DONT like the bad wave forms of cheap gennies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thus, depending what YOU want to power - somewhere between 2,5 and 5kVA should do the job - IF it can give a decent sine wave.
now for the BIG question - HOW do you want to use it ?
- manually run a lead and connect the fridge and tv to the genny ??
- get a serious installation that does an auto switchover .... this will require some serious thought about the size of the genny, and a DUAL DB board to split the essential and non-essential circuits ..... NOU PRAAT JY GELD !!
Ek wil net water kook......
Cooking I am fine. Gas installed.
I would ideally like it to be incorporated into the house wiring.
Fridge and Freezers are my biggest concerns, as EKSDOM is hinting towards longer periods of blackouts.
I suppose I would want something that would have the least disruptions on SWAMBO and the kids daily life.
And then off course, communication with laptops and charging of all comms.
Geaser already sorted with solar.
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Great realistic post.ChrisF wrote:WHAT do YOU expect the genny to do ?
the "right" genny will be totally different for each home.
stove - NO, rather go gas
geyser - HECK NO !! rather go solar
dish washer .... hope not.
washing machine - NO - with the combination of motors and electronics I would rather not use a cheap genny on these.
home aircon .... hope not
pool pump ..... hope not
kettle - heat water on the gas stove
microwave .... uhm rather not
Lights - minimal power needed from the genny
Fridges and freezers - these can easily weather a 2 hour load shed .... though THIS is most certainly THEE best reason to buy a genny IF you are one of the areas where "load shedding" lasts 10 hours at a time
only thing that remains - TV's, computers, and all the electronics that define our modern lives - these DONT like the bad wave forms of cheap gennies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thus, depending what YOU want to power - somewhere between 2,5 and 5kVA should do the job - IF it can give a decent sine wave.
now for the BIG question - HOW do you want to use it ?
- manually run a lead and connect the fridge and tv to the genny ??
- get a serious installation that does an auto switchover .... this will require some serious thought about the size of the genny, and a DUAL DB board to split the essential and non-essential circuits ..... NOU PRAAT JY GELD !!
Many people are going to storm out and buy a genny. They will do well to be realistic and consider the points made here
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That is why I come to the professionals for help.
It does help driving a Lux though
It does help driving a Lux though
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Umpalumpa wrote:ChrisF wrote:WHAT do YOU expect the genny to do ?
the "right" genny will be totally different for each home.
stove - NO, rather go gas
geyser - HECK NO !! rather go solar
dish washer .... hope not.
washing machine - NO - with the combination of motors and electronics I would rather not use a cheap genny on these.
home aircon .... hope not
pool pump ..... hope not
kettle - heat water on the gas stove
microwave .... uhm rather not
Lights - minimal power needed from the genny
Fridges and freezers - these can easily weather a 2 hour load shed .... though THIS is most certainly THEE best reason to buy a genny IF you are one of the areas where "load shedding" lasts 10 hours at a time
only thing that remains - TV's, computers, and all the electronics that define our modern lives - these DONT like the bad wave forms of cheap gennies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thus, depending what YOU want to power - somewhere between 2,5 and 5kVA should do the job - IF it can give a decent sine wave.
now for the BIG question - HOW do you want to use it ?
- manually run a lead and connect the fridge and tv to the genny ??
- get a serious installation that does an auto switchover .... this will require some serious thought about the size of the genny, and a DUAL DB board to split the essential and non-essential circuits ..... NOU PRAAT JY GELD !!
Ek wil net water kook......
Cooking I am fine. Gas installed.
I would ideally like it to be incorporated into the house wiring.
Fridge and Freezers are my biggest concerns, as EKSDOM is hinting towards longer periods of blackouts.
I suppose I would want something that would have the least disruptions on SWAMBO and the kids daily life.
And then off course, communication with laptops and charging of all comms.
Geaser already sorted with solar.
well you are then half way there :)
get a solar hot water geyser, as this will DRASTICALLY reduce your "needs"
the only NEEDS remaining are lights and fridges.
the tv and computers are WANTS .... maar ja, om mammie gelukkig te hou is seker DIE belangrikste
jokes aside - you have just described THEE most expensive requirement out there !!!!!!!!!!!!
Basically you want power in virtually every room, thus business as usual - THIS will require :
- a generator with automatic switchover
- your WHOLE house on the generator !
FIRSTLY - please ensure you get a "proper" generator with a good quality output sine wave.
SECONDLY - what capacity ?
A normal house has a 60A single phase connection, thus maximum 13kVA
We worked on a house were the guy used underfloor heating and and and ... and still expected his generator to carry EVERYTHING
more realistically - you have already removed you stove from the loads list. Do the same with your geyser and your load comes down a lot. Now a 5kVA generator SHOULD be able to cope with most of your load.
lest say you have 1 fridge, 1 freezer, tv's and computers running, lights on, then the genny may just start to strain if you want to use the kettle as well.
certainly should do the job for MOST people - but YOU need to sit with your sparky and go through the list of stuff YOU want to run off the genny.
for what you want - whole house system - you REALLY SHOULD get a sparky in to do a professional change over system.
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Thanks Chris,
That really helps me a lot.
Now, is there any sparky on here that could provide that advice for me.
If so, then please get in touch with me. I am serious in getting this done professionally and off course needs to be compliant with the law and insurace requirements.
That really helps me a lot.
Now, is there any sparky on here that could provide that advice for me.
If so, then please get in touch with me. I am serious in getting this done professionally and off course needs to be compliant with the law and insurace requirements.
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Ok. Yamaha it is
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OK as said I have the Honda on order...
Does this produce the right sine wave? Chris?
Is the Yamaha better? Who sells Yamaha here this side of the Boerwors curtain?
Does this produce the right sine wave? Chris?
Is the Yamaha better? Who sells Yamaha here this side of the Boerwors curtain?
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Just to show just how wide a field this is -
I did the pool heating, walk in fridge, 1000 liter hot water on demand system for this house.
My counter part did the split DB board and genny :
NOT your standard "honda" ....
still the board was split to supply only the essential loads, as it is NOT big enough to supply the complete load for this 4 bedroom house !
CLEARLY not everybody has a 2 000 m2 holiday house !
CLEARLY not everybody needs a genny this size
HOPEFULLY your local sparky can help you find the correct size genny .....
I did the pool heating, walk in fridge, 1000 liter hot water on demand system for this house.
My counter part did the split DB board and genny :
NOT your standard "honda" ....
still the board was split to supply only the essential loads, as it is NOT big enough to supply the complete load for this 4 bedroom house !
CLEARLY not everybody has a 2 000 m2 holiday house !
CLEARLY not everybody needs a genny this size
HOPEFULLY your local sparky can help you find the correct size genny .....
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Just to add my 5c... a 6.5Kva gennie will give you more or less 5000w of power.
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CHRIS, If I may hijack the thread. What if you just want the LED downlights, fridges and freezers and laptop connected with a manual switchover and batteries no Genny. What would such a system cost and how would you connect it?
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If you want to tap the gennie into the wiring, you get an additional main switch. You then install it upside down next to your existing main switch on the DB board. You then connect the two levers with a small rod. So when you then link your gennie to the house power, you automatically stop the feed from going out into the grid and also protect your gennie from when the Eskom feed come back on line
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Very interesting stuff on this thread..
I have a 15KVA generator.. Is this enough for a standard 3 bedroom house?? (Geysers not on Solar YET)
I have a 15KVA generator.. Is this enough for a standard 3 bedroom house?? (Geysers not on Solar YET)
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I have a 5.5Kva genie (petrol), electric start, connected to the house network. When running, I don't bother switching off the geyser or other appliances. This weekend I still watched the golf with the 12000btu aircon running, along with boiling water in the kettle and two fridges running. I bought it a few years back when Eskom started with loadshedding, best investment ever.
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Sal hom bel. Dankie ThaboThabogrobler wrote:A sparky that I can recommend: Albert Gravett -082 879 0494
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Very informative write-up Chris, Thanks!
I have a 5.5KVa Miller Generator, but its just the Gennie.
It had a Diesel Petter engine pulling it in the past.
My brother used the engine on another 10KVAa Gennie he build.
Now I need a Diesel engine to pull the Miller for my needs. (Just lights and freezers & fridges)
The old Petter you had to wind up with rope for a pull-start,
Im looking for a more modern Diesel engin, with a push starter?? Any advice?
The Miller is allready on wheels with slides and so forth.
On the other end, I love old Listers, but the old 6hp Slow speed will be to heavy for the frame, and also the issue with the push starter for SWAMBO.
Also, If I have time I will take pics of the 1000KVa (Turbocharged 16 cilinder Cummins) and 500KVA (Turbocahrged 10 cilinder Cummins) that is used at our concentration plant.
Man, cant wait for the power to cut, just to hear those to badboys powerup!
I have a 5.5KVa Miller Generator, but its just the Gennie.
It had a Diesel Petter engine pulling it in the past.
My brother used the engine on another 10KVAa Gennie he build.
Now I need a Diesel engine to pull the Miller for my needs. (Just lights and freezers & fridges)
The old Petter you had to wind up with rope for a pull-start,
Im looking for a more modern Diesel engin, with a push starter?? Any advice?
The Miller is allready on wheels with slides and so forth.
On the other end, I love old Listers, but the old 6hp Slow speed will be to heavy for the frame, and also the issue with the push starter for SWAMBO.
Also, If I have time I will take pics of the 1000KVa (Turbocharged 16 cilinder Cummins) and 500KVA (Turbocahrged 10 cilinder Cummins) that is used at our concentration plant.
Man, cant wait for the power to cut, just to hear those to badboys powerup!
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Thx Thabo - I have contacted Albert.Thabogrobler wrote:A sparky that I can recommend: Albert Gravett -082 879 0494
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3-5KVA pure sine inverter with a number of batteries to suit you current draw for the time you want to draw should do the trick... This is at the moment waaaayyyy more expensive than a generator... The batteries also have to get charged in some way... Solar or charger from mains...4x4Maniac wrote:CHRIS, If I may hijack the thread. What if you just want the LED downlights, fridges and freezers and laptop connected with a manual switchover and batteries no Genny. What would such a system cost and how would you connect it?
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15KVA is plenty... Jy kan jy n 3 slaapkamer huis met sy geysers en de lot trek... Jy sal die stoof ook kan loop maar n gennie hou nie baie van elemente(geyser,stoof,keetel) nie so mens ontwerp om dit die klein sisteme... Maar bygese jy het klaar die ding, connect hom en eskom is nie meer n probleem nie...Pote wrote:Very interesting stuff on this thread..
I have a 15KVA generator.. Is this enough for a standard 3 bedroom house?? (Geysers not on Solar YET)
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
Jy kan net n manual change over gebruik... As mens dit wil automate werk n dood gewone 4pool contactor met 2NO en 2NC contacts ook baie maklik... Hy switch sommer self terug na eishkom as die krag weer aangan... Dit is nou vir enkelfase connections...CasKru wrote:If you want to tap the gennie into the wiring, you get an additional main switch. You then install it upside down next to your existing main switch on the DB board. You then connect the two levers with a small rod. So when you then link your gennie to the house power, you automatically stop the feed from going out into the grid and also protect your gennie from when the Eskom feed come back on line
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1976 FJ45 4x4
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
Sorry, I'm new here so let this be my first rant post.CasKru wrote:If you want to tap the gennie into the wiring, you get an additional main switch. You then install it upside down next to your existing main switch on the DB board. You then connect the two levers with a small rod. So when you then link your gennie to the house power, you automatically stop the feed from going out into the grid and also protect your gennie from when the Eskom feed come back on line
This has to be the most stupid,idiotic suggestion to post as there are many non electrical people who will try this method of yours and thus kill,mame,injure or burn a house down ,usually kids are the ones to suffer.
Rather spend a few Rand/Rant and buy a change over switch,have it fitted by a registered electrician who will issue you with a COC. Thus insurance will cover you.
Apologies if I offended but working in the Municipal elect field and seeing kids/people injured due to " I think I know what I am doing" elect connections burns my exhaust pipe. Yes I am a qualified sparky and drive an Isuzu......with diff lock......2x4 :D
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
Welcome to the forum.Hunter26 wrote:Sorry, I'm new here so let this be my first rant post.CasKru wrote:If you want to tap the gennie into the wiring, you get an additional main switch. You then install it upside down next to your existing main switch on the DB board. You then connect the two levers with a small rod. So when you then link your gennie to the house power, you automatically stop the feed from going out into the grid and also protect your gennie from when the Eskom feed come back on line
This has to be the most stupid,idiotic suggestion to post as there are many non electrical people who will try this method of yours and thus kill,mame,injure or burn a house down ,usually kids are the ones to suffer.
Rather spend a few Rand/Rant and buy a change over switch,have it fitted by a registered electrician who will issue you with a COC. Thus insurance will cover you.
Apologies if I offended but working in the Municipal elect field and seeing kids/people injured due to " I think I know what I am doing" elect connections burns my exhaust pipe. Yes I am a qualified sparky and drive an Isuzu......with diff lock......2x4 :D
Craig
Nice way of introduction......
Just a guy with a passion for 4x4.....
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
Craig actually DID do a PROPER introduction the other day ... or did he ... NO, no pichas so he still owes us !!!!!!Umpalumpa wrote:Welcome to the forum.Hunter26 wrote:Sorry, I'm new here so let this be my first rant post.CasKru wrote:If you want to tap the gennie into the wiring, you get an additional main switch. You then install it upside down next to your existing main switch on the DB board. You then connect the two levers with a small rod. So when you then link your gennie to the house power, you automatically stop the feed from going out into the grid and also protect your gennie from when the Eskom feed come back on line
This has to be the most stupid,idiotic suggestion to post as there are many non electrical people who will try this method of yours and thus kill,mame,injure or burn a house down ,usually kids are the ones to suffer.
Rather spend a few Rand/Rant and buy a change over switch,have it fitted by a registered electrician who will issue you with a COC. Thus insurance will cover you.
Apologies if I offended but working in the Municipal elect field and seeing kids/people injured due to " I think I know what I am doing" elect connections burns my exhaust pipe. Yes I am a qualified sparky and drive an Isuzu......with diff lock......2x4 :D
Craig
Nice way of introduction......
Sadly Craig is CORRECT !!
I wonder if we will hear half to horror stories of people that rushed out to buy "gennies" ...
it truly is NOT recommended to play with these things if you know as much about electricity as a Suzie owner does of 4x4 ...
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
Ek het n lp gas gen 4.5 kv vir my verjaarsdag gekry dit was nie n goeie vejaarsdag nie. Die ding gebruik meer gas in rand waarde in 3ure as wat die ding seker gekos het. Ek wil nie my vrou in die gesig vat nie, nou sal ek maar skelm vir my self n ander een moet koop.
So ek is ook ene ooe op die link.
So ek is ook ene ooe op die link.
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
The best I recommend to be safe is plug what ever you want direct into the generator ,providing you don't over load the genny.
Apologies for my previous post but If I can save a life ,,please delete if it offended .Thanks
Craig
Apologies for my previous post but If I can save a life ,,please delete if it offended .Thanks
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
Not offended at all.Hunter26 wrote:The best I recommend to be safe is plug what ever you want direct into the generator ,providing you don't over load the genny.
Apologies for my previous post but If I can save a life ,,please delete if it offended .Thanks
Craig
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I have seen and treated various Izinyoka's in my career.
I know exactly waht you mean sir!!
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
As a follow up:
I got these numbers from a gennie supplier.
It is a diesel gennie. I prefer diesel
Delivery is 8 weeks when I place the order.
Do these numbers mean anything to you guys?
Is it worthwhile?
BP5S SPECIFICATIONS
Prime kVA: 5.0
Standby kVA: 5.5
Frequency (Hz): 50
Volts (V): 230
RPM: 3000
Engine Brand: FAW
Alternator Brand: Stamford
DIMENSIONS
Length (mm): 920
Width (mm): 545
Height (mm): 650
Weight (kg): 171
Tank (l): 13
All of this for R15 390-00 (Not incl delivery)
I would then have to get a sparky to "blend" it into my house as well. Not sure what the going rate is as well.
Am I on the right track or is this a bit over priced?
I got these numbers from a gennie supplier.
It is a diesel gennie. I prefer diesel
Delivery is 8 weeks when I place the order.
Do these numbers mean anything to you guys?
Is it worthwhile?
BP5S SPECIFICATIONS
Prime kVA: 5.0
Standby kVA: 5.5
Frequency (Hz): 50
Volts (V): 230
RPM: 3000
Engine Brand: FAW
Alternator Brand: Stamford
DIMENSIONS
Length (mm): 920
Width (mm): 545
Height (mm): 650
Weight (kg): 171
Tank (l): 13
All of this for R15 390-00 (Not incl delivery)
I would then have to get a sparky to "blend" it into my house as well. Not sure what the going rate is as well.
Am I on the right track or is this a bit over priced?
Just a guy with a passion for 4x4.....
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
Waar in die kaap kan ek nog n gennie kry, vir n redelike prys lyk alles is uitverkoop.
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
Hello gents,
Is it possible to connect two 5KVA inverters to a three phase supply home. I require to run the inverters for only two phases. I need to be able to use
Fridge X2
Freezer X2
Lights 10
Modem
Computer
TV
DSTV unit
Stove
Thanks
Yahy
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Is it possible to connect two 5KVA inverters to a three phase supply home. I require to run the inverters for only two phases. I need to be able to use
Fridge X2
Freezer X2
Lights 10
Modem
Computer
TV
DSTV unit
Stove
Thanks
Yahy
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
I would say no, as the phases won't be in sync. But let's wait for someone more knowledgeable to reply.
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
No EL protection so its not really safe... Best is a changeover behind the EL...Hunter26 wrote:The best I recommend to be safe is plug what ever you want direct into the generator ,providing you don't over load the genny.
Apologies for my previous post but If I can save a life ,,please delete if it offended .Thanks
Craig
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
Seems fine... You can get the china models for about 12k at adendorf and they have stock... The perkins, yanmar etc etc equivalent go for about 22k+ depending on autostart, auto changeover etc...Umpalumpa wrote:As a follow up:
I got these numbers from a gennie supplier.
It is a diesel gennie. I prefer diesel
Delivery is 8 weeks when I place the order.
Do these numbers mean anything to you guys?
Is it worthwhile?
BP5S SPECIFICATIONS
Prime kVA: 5.0
Standby kVA: 5.5
Frequency (Hz): 50
Volts (V): 230
RPM: 3000
Engine Brand: FAW
Alternator Brand: Stamford
DIMENSIONS
Length (mm): 920
Width (mm): 545
Height (mm): 650
Weight (kg): 171
Tank (l): 13
All of this for R15 390-00 (Not incl delivery)
I would then have to get a sparky to "blend" it into my house as well. Not sure what the going rate is as well.
Am I on the right track or is this a bit over priced?
Hangover(A.K.A die speelding)
1976 FJ45 4x4
1UZ-FE 4.0vvti
2" OME Suspension lift
1.5" Shackle lift
35" Geo MT's
Custom Bullbar
Lockright Locked rear
York OBA
20" LED bar
Nighthawk 100W spots
Dakar
2013 3.0D-4D 4x4 Hilux Dakar
1976 FJ45 4x4
1UZ-FE 4.0vvti
2" OME Suspension lift
1.5" Shackle lift
35" Geo MT's
Custom Bullbar
Lockright Locked rear
York OBA
20" LED bar
Nighthawk 100W spots
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
Why would you want to run everything off an inverter when you have electricity. I know an inverter takes 12v DC up to 220v AC. Just asking for clarity to help out if possible.yahya wrote:Hello gents,
Is it possible to connect two 5KVA inverters to a three phase supply home. I require to run the inverters for only two phases. I need to be able to use
Fridge X2
Freezer X2
Lights 10
Modem
Computer
TV
DSTV unit
Stove
Thanks
Yahy
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
Big debate about this on the 4x4 Community Forum :DHangover wrote:No EL protection so its not really safe... Best is a changeover behind the EL...Hunter26 wrote:The best I recommend to be safe is plug what ever you want direct into the generator ,providing you don't over load the genny.
Apologies for my previous post but If I can save a life ,,please delete if it offended .Thanks
Craig
Craig
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
The Honda Genny I ordered never materialised. I can now get an 8 kVA Briggs&Stratton for R25571 including the Trolley wheelset (R2000). It is more powerful than the Honda. What you guys think?
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
In no way will this be even remotely legal or safe but seeing that you dont have any 3 phase equipment it shouldnt be a problem... You can see it as 2 single phase feeds not dependant...yahya wrote:Hello gents,
Is it possible to connect two 5KVA inverters to a three phase supply home. I require to run the inverters for only two phases. I need to be able to use
Fridge X2
Freezer X2
Lights 10
Modem
Computer
TV
DSTV unit
Stove
Thanks
Yahy
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Hangover(A.K.A die speelding)
1976 FJ45 4x4
1UZ-FE 4.0vvti
2" OME Suspension lift
1.5" Shackle lift
35" Geo MT's
Custom Bullbar
Lockright Locked rear
York OBA
20" LED bar
Nighthawk 100W spots
Dakar
2013 3.0D-4D 4x4 Hilux Dakar
1976 FJ45 4x4
1UZ-FE 4.0vvti
2" OME Suspension lift
1.5" Shackle lift
35" Geo MT's
Custom Bullbar
Lockright Locked rear
York OBA
20" LED bar
Nighthawk 100W spots
Dakar
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
I have a 5.5kva Honda. Profesionally wired into the house DB.
I have solar geyser
I have gas oven and top
The 5.5. runs everything for hours on end and has done so now for almost ten years. (excluding aircon, kettle, but including all other appliances like washing machine three fridges, pressure pump, pc x 2 and printers, tv, dstv, lights etc).
Looking at perhaps importing some. Landed cost will be R8500 (Honda)
I have solar geyser
I have gas oven and top
The 5.5. runs everything for hours on end and has done so now for almost ten years. (excluding aircon, kettle, but including all other appliances like washing machine three fridges, pressure pump, pc x 2 and printers, tv, dstv, lights etc).
Looking at perhaps importing some. Landed cost will be R8500 (Honda)
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
Family_Dog wrote:I would say no, as the phases won't be in sync. But let's wait for someone more knowledgeable to reply.
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Indeed, they need to be 120 dregrees apart.
In terms of txfer switches....this is what I've used at work:
important thing is that it switches through Zero, main reason why Cassie's suggestion is not 100% safe.
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
Het gister die grid tied inverter aangeskakel.
Dis wat hy 12 uur vanmiddag gegee het.
En die meter loop terug.
Dis wat hy 12 uur vanmiddag gegee het.
En die meter loop terug.
Word te vinnig oud en te stadig wys.
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
Where did you buy the switch and how much?Stef wrote:Family_Dog wrote:I would say no, as the phases won't be in sync. But let's wait for someone more knowledgeable to reply.
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Indeed, they need to be 120 dregrees apart.
In terms of txfer switches....this is what I've used at work:
important thing is that it switches through Zero, main reason why Cassie's suggestion is not 100% safe.
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
This is my solution to the Eksdom issue........5.5kva generator and din rail changeover switch from ACDC Express for 273 bucks.......works for me. Just keep the pool pump & geyser switched off while running the gennie.
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Re: Best Generator for residential house?
dcsmax wrote:Where did you buy the switch and how much?Stef wrote:Family_Dog wrote:I would say no, as the phases won't be in sync. But let's wait for someone more knowledgeable to reply.
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Indeed, they need to be 120 dregrees apart.
In terms of txfer switches....this is what I've used at work:
important thing is that it switches through Zero, main reason why Cassie's suggestion is not 100% safe.
Deon
Deon, IIRC we bought from Paragon in Pta, but you should be able to get get them from any reputable electrical dealer. They were around R300 at the time