Moegatle 28 July 2012
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Moegatle 28 July 2012
Who like to join in one of the best trails in SA.This is a GTG ,you do not want to miss This is going to be a camping weekend for those who want to camp.Check out this link http://www.moegatle4x4trails.co.za/p/10 ... comodation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
GPS: 25 24'06.95''S 27 43'36.04''E
Camp Site
R150 per stand (2 Adults and 2 children)
R25 per extra person
I will post the trail fees tomorow
GPS: 25 24'06.95''S 27 43'36.04''E
Camp Site
R150 per stand (2 Adults and 2 children)
R25 per extra person
I will post the trail fees tomorow
Last edited by legend35 on Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:02 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Jis Johan, jy is aan die gang... Na die fantastiese event jy nou net gereel het, is jy al klaar besig met volgende maand sin.... Dis goed...
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eks in en gaan saam kamp
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Kom ons begin 'n lys:ToyX4 wrote:Johan, hoe gaan die weer daai naweek lyk?
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Not a moment spered :!: I see.
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Give the man a .....ToyX4 wrote:Johan, hoe gaan die weer daai naweek lyk?
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I agree... seriouslyOOOOMS wrote:Give the man a .....ToyX4 wrote:Johan, hoe gaan die weer daai naweek lyk?
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Hey, ek het gedog Johan het connections vir sulke info.
Ek beplan nie regtig my lewe so ver vooruit nie, maar ons is daar vir die naweek, tentatief.
Ek beplan nie regtig my lewe so ver vooruit nie, maar ons is daar vir die naweek, tentatief.
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3. Johan +Leanie (Camp)WayneSchalk wrote:1. Louis en Familie
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Ons sal ook seker gaan maar ek moet eers kyk of ek my bakkie droog kry
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Los hm maar....daar is water by Moegatle....why?CasKru wrote:Ons sal ook seker gaan maar ek moet eers kyk of ek my bakkie droog kry
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1. Louis en Familie (kamp)
2. Wayne + Angela (camp)
3. Johan + Leanie (Camp)
4. Stef & kie (kamp)
5. Danie Nelia en kinders
6. Riaan en die 3 plattes (kamp, tentatief)
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5. Danie Nelia en kinders
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7.Cassie Caskru+3 as bakkie droog is
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2. Wayne + Angela (camp)
3. Johan + Leanie (Camp)
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6. Riaan en die 3 plattes (kamp, tentatief)
7.Cassie Caskru+3 as bakkie droog is
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Hier is n update.
Pryse is as volg:
Kamp R150 per tent met 4 persone. Elke ekstra pers per tent R25.
Krag punte, warm water storte
Kamers beskikbaar - R250 per nag per couple. Elke ekstra volw R50 ekstra.
1 x Chalet @ R400
(Kamers en chalet moet vir minimum 2 dae geboek word)
Roete R300 per voertuig (guided)
Pryse is as volg:
Kamp R150 per tent met 4 persone. Elke ekstra pers per tent R25.
Krag punte, warm water storte
Kamers beskikbaar - R250 per nag per couple. Elke ekstra volw R50 ekstra.
1 x Chalet @ R400
(Kamers en chalet moet vir minimum 2 dae geboek word)
Roete R300 per voertuig (guided)
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Johan 10/10 to you for efforts in planning our outings, well done
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Ek het die volgende vraag gelees op hulle webpage en wil graag weet watter 1 gery gaan word:
How long does the Moegatle Trail Take?
The trail 34kms long and takes 5 to 6 hours per day to complete.
The Trail takes two days to complete, but we do have a one day trail available.
How long does the Moegatle Trail Take?
The trail 34kms long and takes 5 to 6 hours per day to complete.
The Trail takes two days to complete, but we do have a one day trail available.
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Daai is nie jou bakkie nie want hy is kurk droog.....
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Willem01 wrote:Daai is nie jou bakkie nie want hy is kurk droog.....
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Moegatle 28 July 2012
Johan, as niemand al n kamer gevat het nie kan ons eerste opsie kry op die kamer met dubbel en enkel bed?
1. Louis en Familie (kamp)
2. Wayne + Angela (camp)
3. Johan + Leanie (Camp)
4. Stef & kie (kamp)
5. Danie Nelia en kinders
6. Riaan en die 3 plattes (kamp, tentatief)
7.Cassie Caskru+3 as bakkie droog is
8.Kenneth (kamp)
9.Johan Legend35+2 (kamp)
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1. Louis en Familie (kamp)
2. Wayne + Angela (camp)
3. Johan + Leanie (Camp)
4. Stef & kie (kamp)
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6. Riaan en die 3 plattes (kamp, tentatief)
7.Cassie Caskru+3 as bakkie droog is
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
4x4Maniac wrote:Johan, as niemand al n kamer gevat het nie kan ons eerste opsie kry op die kamer met dubbel en enkel bed?
1. Louis en Familie (kamp)
2. Wayne + Angela (camp)
3. Johan + Leanie (Camp)
4. Stef & kie (kamp)
5. Danie Nelia en kinders
6. Riaan en die 3 plattes (kamp, tentatief)
7.Cassie Caskru+3 as bakkie droog is
8.Kenneth (kamp)
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1. Louis en Familie (kamp)
2. Wayne + Angela (camp)
3. Johan + Leanie (Camp)
4. Stef & kie (kamp)
5. Danie Nelia en kinders
6. Riaan en die 3 plattes (kamp, tentatief)
7.Cassie Caskru+3 as bakkie droog is
8.Kenneth (kamp)
9.Johan Legend35+2 (kamp)
10.Werner 4x4Maniac+2 (kamer)
11.Willem en gesin (kamp)
12. Coenraad21 en gesin (kamp)
2. Wayne + Angela (camp)
3. Johan + Leanie (Camp)
4. Stef & kie (kamp)
5. Danie Nelia en kinders
6. Riaan en die 3 plattes (kamp, tentatief)
7.Cassie Caskru+3 as bakkie droog is
8.Kenneth (kamp)
9.Johan Legend35+2 (kamp)
10.Werner 4x4Maniac+2 (kamer)
11.Willem en gesin (kamp)
12. Coenraad21 en gesin (kamp)
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13. JohanM + Kerry (Kamp)Coenraad21 wrote:1. Louis en Familie (kamp)
2. Wayne + Angela (camp)
3. Johan + Leanie (Camp)
4. Stef & kie (kamp)
5. Danie Nelia en kinders
6. Riaan en die 3 plattes (kamp, tentatief)
7.Cassie Caskru+3 as bakkie droog is
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Won't make this one also, we have a family commitment in Lesotho that weekend.
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Jis
lyk my dit gaan n lekker groepie wees wat kamp
Ek gaan sommer my pa se trailer bring wat hy gebou het.
lyk my dit gaan n lekker groepie wees wat kamp
Ek gaan sommer my pa se trailer bring wat hy gebou het.
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
:evil: :evil: wont be suprised if i come back with another servere case of flu :evil: :evil: Lesotho in July its bloody cold wont even enjoy those beers :evil: :evil:Donkey wrote:Won't make this one also, we have a family commitment in Lesotho that weekend.
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1. Louis en Familie (kamp)
2. Wayne + Angela (camp)
3. Johan + Leanie (Camp)
4. Stef & kie (kamp)
5. Danie Nelia en kinders
6. Riaan en die 3 plattes (kamp, tentatief)
7.Cassie Caskru+3 as bakkie droog is(Chalet)
8.Kenneth (kamp)
9.Johan Legend35+2 (kamp)
10.Werner 4x4Maniac+2 (kamer)
11.Willem en gesin (kamp)
12. Coenraad21 en gesin (kamp)
13.Johan M + Kerry (kamp)
2. Wayne + Angela (camp)
3. Johan + Leanie (Camp)
4. Stef & kie (kamp)
5. Danie Nelia en kinders
6. Riaan en die 3 plattes (kamp, tentatief)
7.Cassie Caskru+3 as bakkie droog is(Chalet)
8.Kenneth (kamp)
9.Johan Legend35+2 (kamp)
10.Werner 4x4Maniac+2 (kamer)
11.Willem en gesin (kamp)
12. Coenraad21 en gesin (kamp)
13.Johan M + Kerry (kamp)
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
As some of you may know,Moegatle makes a DVD of the whole trail for R200 a DVD.Only one snag.We must be more than 5 vehicles for them to take the camera with.
I have two of these DVD's and it is worth it
I have two of these DVD's and it is worth it
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Ill be up for something like thatlegend35 wrote:As some of you may know,Moegatle makes a DVD of the whole trail for R200 a DVD.Only one snag.We must be more than 5 vehicles for them to take the camera with.
I have two of these DVD's and it is worth it
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Ek is in vir DVD. Net vir ingeval daar weer n Hilux vassit en nie n Jeep nie
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Count me in.
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Soos wat daai Jeep die obstacles (mis)ry help dit nie om een te bestel nie...ToyX4 wrote:Ek is in vir DVD. Net vir ingeval daar weer n Hilux vassit en nie n Jeep nie
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Stef wrote:Soos wat daai Jeep die obstacles (mis)ry help dit nie om een te bestel nie...ToyX4 wrote:Ek is in vir DVD. Net vir ingeval daar weer n Hilux vassit en nie n Jeep nie
HAHAH
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Ja ja, gooi maar, ek kan dit vat.Stef wrote:Soos wat daai Jeep die obstacles (mis)ry help dit nie om een te bestel nie...ToyX4 wrote:Ek is in vir DVD. Net vir ingeval daar weer n Hilux vassit en nie n Jeep nie
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Maar net die De Wildt report gelees van 'n Hilux wat vas sit waar 'n Jeep nie gery het nie...miskien het ek nie al die feite nie...ToyX4 wrote:Ja ja, gooi maar, ek kan dit vat.Stef wrote:Soos wat daai Jeep die obstacles (mis)ry help dit nie om een te bestel nie...ToyX4 wrote:Ek is in vir DVD. Net vir ingeval daar weer n Hilux vassit en nie n Jeep nie
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Kom ons noem dit eerder gestol het en nie vas gesit nieStef wrote: Maar net die De Wildt report gelees van 'n Hilux wat vas sit waar 'n Jeep nie gery het nie...miskien het ek nie al die feite nie...
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
As jy my Jeep kom was en al die modder uithaal waar ek dit nie wil in he nie, en die diffs betaal as dit dalk breek en die langtermyn kostes dek wat modder kan veroorsaak, dan gaan ek gou De Wildt toe en ry daai watergat met graagte.
Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
A word of Caution to all campers :!:
A reliable source notified me this afternoon after reading about the Club event at Moegatle.
They camped there about 4 weekends ago and were burgled on the Friday night at the camp site.
They notified the owner who did not assist them at all or even interested to come and have a look!!!
On the Saturday evening while sitting around the fire (also at the camp site) one of the tents was broken into and items like wallet, camera, and a fire arm was stolen from one of the tents.
The police was called out and knew exactly where to go to (Moegatle camp site) and advised that this is a regular occurrence. And the owner was not interested in assisting ...... :!:
In view of the above I strongly urge either a day trip only or an alternate venue be considered :wink2:
A reliable source notified me this afternoon after reading about the Club event at Moegatle.
They camped there about 4 weekends ago and were burgled on the Friday night at the camp site.
They notified the owner who did not assist them at all or even interested to come and have a look!!!
On the Saturday evening while sitting around the fire (also at the camp site) one of the tents was broken into and items like wallet, camera, and a fire arm was stolen from one of the tents.
The police was called out and knew exactly where to go to (Moegatle camp site) and advised that this is a regular occurrence. And the owner was not interested in assisting ...... :!:
In view of the above I strongly urge either a day trip only or an alternate venue be considered :wink2:
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
In daai geval dink ek sommer n ander venue. As dit hulle houding is, maak ons hulle toe.
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
there goes the funOOOOMS wrote:A word of Caution to all campers :!:
A reliable source notified me this afternoon after reading about the Club event at Moegatle.
They camped there about 4 weekends ago and were burgled on the Friday night at the camp site.
They notified the owner who did not assist them at all or even interested to come and have a look!!!
On the Saturday evening while sitting around the fire (also at the camp site) one of the tents was broken into and items like wallet, camera, and a fire arm was stolen from one of the tents.
The police was called out and knew exactly where to go to (Moegatle camp site) and advised that this is a regular occurrence. And the owner was not interested in assisting ...... :!:
In view of the above I strongly urge either a day trip only or an alternate venue be considered :wink2:
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Indien daar ander voorstelle is vir n venue laat ons net vroegtydig weet dit is my afnaweek en wil nie graag by die huis sit omdat die wetters als wil beduiwel nie.....Sebata wrote:there goes the funOOOOMS wrote:A word of Caution to all campers :!:
In view of the above I strongly urge either a day trip only or an alternate venue be considered :wink2:
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Dit is vir my ook n skok Ek sal more kyk hoe ek die ding gou kan regstel.Het klaar n idee vir n ander venue.
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Jis dit maak my boos. Wat gaan hulle nie nog alles van ons af weg vat nie.
Ek het nou so bietjie gesit en dink. As mens nou nie meer Moegatle kan doen nie, wat van Buffalo Gorge in Middelburg of Berakha in Parys?
Ek het nou so bietjie gesit en dink. As mens nou nie meer Moegatle kan doen nie, wat van Buffalo Gorge in Middelburg of Berakha in Parys?
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
En hier is nog een.Kungwini in Bronkhorstspruit.http://www.4x4kungwini.co.za/kungwini.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Laat die voorstelle kom ,dan kan ons sien wat die manne graag wil doen
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
ToyX4 wrote:Of Doornrivier by Zeerust
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Sit vir ons detail op laat ons kan sien hoe die plek lyk RiaanToyX4 wrote:Of Doornrivier by Zeerust
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Hier was die laaste Doornrivier GTG thread:
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Is daar nie dalk naby gelee plekke waar ons kan oorslaap en dan net vir die dag Moegatle toe gaan nie?
Dikhololo is net langsaan maar dis tyd deel en daar is nie kamp plek nie...Roodekoppies dam is ook naby maar net so berug vir diefstal...
Ek is in vir 'n dagreis, darem nie te ver van Pta af nie, maar dit meng in met braai tyd agterna as mens moet terug ry.
Dikhololo is net langsaan maar dis tyd deel en daar is nie kamp plek nie...Roodekoppies dam is ook naby maar net so berug vir diefstal...
Ek is in vir 'n dagreis, darem nie te ver van Pta af nie, maar dit meng in met braai tyd agterna as mens moet terug ry.
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Ek is ook fine met dag outing.Stef wrote:Is daar nie dalk naby gelee plekke waar ons kan oorslaap en dan net vir die dag Moegatle toe gaan nie?
Dikhololo is net langsaan maar dis tyd deel en daar is nie kamp plek nie...Roodekoppies dam is ook naby maar net so berug vir diefstal...
Ek is in vir 'n dagreis, darem nie te ver van Pta af nie, maar dit meng in met braai tyd agterna as mens moet terug ry.
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Wat van die plek by Bronkhorstsruit ? Waar Cassie / Louis onlangs was?
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Re: Moegatle 28 July 2012
Daai is Kungwini wat Johan voor gestel hetOOOOMS wrote:Wat van die plek by Bronkhorstsruit ? Waar Cassie / Louis onlangs was?
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