Normal worklight to "super" worklight?

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:10 pm

We all know that a good worklight can be very handy. However, the downside to all the nice benefits is plain and simple. It has no respect for battery life and limited power reserves. That is where LED technology becomes very attractive. And Andrew Faber sells an impressive range of quality LED driven worklights.

What to do if you already have a worklight???? It is money already spent.

This is my solution, bought these LED H3's in 12v on eBay and now waiting for delivery.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:52 pm

Interesting .... and cost? I wonder what their lumen output is by comparison to the standard H3 (halogen)?

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:39 am

Energy consumption is 3W and they are intended for foglights and spotlights so they should not be too anemic.

Cost including shipping is $9.00 for two.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:19 am

That's not too harsh. Pity the local suppliers are not 'up to speed' with the latest products. So much easier to buy locally and have availability when replacement is required.

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:53 am

Mud Dog wrote:That's not too harsh. Pity the local suppliers are not 'up to speed' with the latest products. So much easier to buy locally and have availability when replacement is required.

It is easier to drive to your local store and buying a local H3; absolute fact. And it is much faster and more convenient.

Advantage from a cluster LED is that it is extremely unlikely for the complete unit to blow all LED's in one moment. You will notice they are going one by one; unlike a Halogen. Therefore having 2 H3's in LED should last me a long time. I know of at least one seller in Boksburg that sells H3 LED's, but they are R150-00 each if memory serves me correct.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:43 am

Consumption on the LED's is far less than Halogen.

Led's are generally not brighter than Halogen. Reflectors like spot lights are specifically designed to reflect the light applicable to the application. Light is a very complex phenomenon, move the designed philliment and the application differs. The reflective ray from the reflector is the visible source and if the angel is incorrect the application will differ.

A simple example is a Mag light, with an adjustable head. By moving the reflector housing forward or backward will provide a spot or a flood effect.

Uys · Post by **Uys** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:10 am

Heinrich, hoop nie ek bars jou bubble nie. eK het 'n Hella werk lig en het by Andy een van daai globes gekoop. Die lig is maar baie teleurstellend want die reflector si nei reg ontwerp vir daai gloeilamp nie -ek is terug na my H3/4 gloeilamp.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:52 pm

Uys wrote:Heinrich, hoop nie ek bars jou bubble nie. eK het 'n Hella werk lig en het by Andy een van daai globes gekoop. Die lig is maar baie teleurstellend want die reflector si nei reg ontwerp vir daai gloeilamp nie -ek is terug na my H3/4 gloeilamp.

By Andy? ... of by Mark, of was dit dalk 'n ander 'Andy' gewees.....

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:25 pm

Uys wrote:Heinrich, hoop nie ek bars jou bubble nie. eK het 'n Hella werk lig en het by Andy een van daai globes gekoop. Die lig is maar baie teleurstellend want die reflector si nei reg ontwerp vir daai gloeilamp nie -ek is terug na my H3/4 gloeilamp.

Andy Faber (AndyF) from 4x4Community M_D.

Uys, ek het hulle eintlik aangeskaf om te gebruik in misligte, maar besluit om hulle te toets in die werkslig sodra hulle hier aankom. As hulle nie lekker werk in die werkslig nie dan koop ek 'n LED werkslig op eBay.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:52 pm

Heinrich, as jy dit kry kom maak 'n draai een aand, ek het 'n digital lig meter dan kan ons speel en toets en natuurlik 'n vleisie oppi kole gooi

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:56 pm

OOOOMS wrote:Heinrich, as jy dit kry kom maak 'n draai een aand, ek het 'n digital lig meter dan kan ons speel en toets en natuurlik 'n vleisie oppi kole gooi

Daai is 'n lekker plan.

Ek weet dat ligte kan vreeslik verskil tot met verskillende gloeilampe (praat nie eens van verskil tussen LED en Halogen nie). Rede hiervoor is omdat jy die brandpunt van die gloeilamp in verhouding verander met die fokuspunt op die interne reflektor.

Ons sal maar sien hoe werk hy terwyl ons 'n tjoppie tan.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:09 pm

Traveler wrote:
OOOOMS wrote:Heinrich, as jy dit kry kom maak 'n draai een aand, ek het 'n digital lig meter dan kan ons speel en toets en natuurlik 'n vleisie oppi kole gooi
Daai is 'n lekker plan.

Ek weet dat ligte kan vreeslik verskil tot met verskillende gloeilampe (praat nie eens van verskil tussen LED en Halogen nie). Rede hiervoor is omdat jy die brandpunt van die gloeilamp in verhouding verander met die fokuspunt op die interne reflektor.

Ons sal maar sien hoe werk hy terwyl ons 'n tjoppie tan.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:59 am

Heinrich, nou dat ek na die kopstuk sit en kyk van daai LED H3 pic wat jy gepos het, sien ek dalk 'n ander probleempie. Die ontwerp van 'n Halogeen spot se glas lyk heelwat kleiner as die van die LED, en gaan dalk 'n probleem wees om deur die gleuf te kry?

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warrenaken · Post by **warrenaken** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:02 am

I have been using a 9LED globe in my work light for awhile now and they are great. Yesterday I got my 68LED the exact same as the one above (Heinrich's one), the are claimed at 220 lumens. Will fit this weekend and let you know.

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:21 am

OOOOMS wrote:Heinrich, nou dat ek na die kopstuk sit en kyk van daai LED H3 pic wat jy gepos het, sien ek dalk 'n ander probleempie. Die ontwerp van 'n Halogeen spot se glas lyk heelwat kleiner as die van die LED, en gaan dalk 'n probleem wees om deur die gleuf te kry?

Mark, dit sal nie probleem wees nie. H3 is 'n ISO industry standard, al die ligte wat H3/H1/H4/H7/H8 gebruik moet aan dieselfde dimensies voldoen met fixtures wat volgens die standaard voorgeskryf word. Bv. 'n H3 12v en H3 24v moet ook almal dieselfde specs voldoen. Nou voordat iemand my dit probeer uitwys, die H-spec het niks te doen met die size van die reflectors of die fisiese size van die lig nie. Dit is 'n standaard vir die gloeilamp.

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:24 am

warrenaken wrote:I have been using a 9LED globe in my work light for awhile now and they are great. Yesterday I got my 68LED the exact same as the one above (Heinrich's one), the are claimed at 220 lumens. Will fit this weekend and let you know.

Thanks Warren

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:26 am

Traveler wrote:
Uys wrote:Heinrich, hoop nie ek bars jou bubble nie. eK het 'n Hella werk lig en het by Andy een van daai globes gekoop. Die lig is maar baie teleurstellend want die reflector si nei reg ontwerp vir daai gloeilamp nie -ek is terug na my H3/4 gloeilamp.
Andy Faber (AndyF) from 4x4Community M_D.

Uys, ek het hulle eintlik aangeskaf om te gebruik in misligte, maar besluit om hulle te toets in die werkslig sodra hulle hier aankom. As hulle nie lekker werk in die werkslig nie dan koop ek 'n LED werkslig op eBay.

H, jou misligte gebruik 'n H10 lamp (daai wat water ingekry het)?

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OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:30 am

warrenaken wrote:I have been using a 9LED globe in my work light for awhile now and they are great. Yesterday I got my 68LED the exact same as the one above (Heinrich's one), the are claimed at 220 lumens. Will fit this weekend and let you know.

220 Lumens is = to a 25 watt oven light (which is little)
a 40 watt candle lamp produces 440 Lumen

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:32 am

Nee, hulle gebruik H3. Ek weet want ek het al 1 van hulle vervang.

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:34 am

OOOOMS wrote:
warrenaken wrote:I have been using a 9LED globe in my work light for awhile now and they are great. Yesterday I got my 68LED the exact same as the one above (Heinrich's one), the are claimed at 220 lumens. Will fit this weekend and let you know.
220 Lumens is = to a 25 watt oven light (which is little)
a 40 watt candle lamp produces 440 Lumen

Het jy dit al met jou lux meter gemeet??

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:37 am

Het jy dit al met jou lux meter gemeet??

Ja
Kop stuk vergelyking:

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:41 am

Daai wit ene is nie H3 nie?? (kan sien daai liggie waar jy hom probeer fit is H3) het jy hom probeer insit met 'n hammer?

Waarom ek daai vraag vra oor Lux lesing vs. rated is dat ek in die verlede al gesien het dat 1 gloeilamp met spesifieke lumen rating kan verskillende resultate gee in verskillend ligte omrede die reflectors se performance verskil.

Post by **CasKru** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:54 am

Ja nee Mark... daai globie wat jy daar beet het is 'n wedge tipe globe wat onder andere in die Tazz se brieke gebruik word.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:56 am

Traveler wrote:Daai wit ene is nie H3 nie?? (kan sien daai liggie waar jy hom probeer fit is H3) het jy hom probeer insit met 'n hammer?

Waarom ek daai vraag vra oor Lux lesing vs. rated is dat ek in die verlede al gesien het dat 1 gloeilamp met spesifieke lumen rating kan verskillende resultate gee in verskillend ligte omrede die reflectors se performance verskil.

Ek weet dit is 'n T10 net vir illustrasie doeleindes (13 LED)

Laas week het ek , 'n 18 LED briek lig getoets teen die standard 25 watt halogen. En die 25 watt halogen is helderder by omtrent 15% in vergelyking met die LED. Met my 4 oe getoets.

Jy is heeltemal reg oor die reflector toets. 'n 55 Watt H3 halogen lamp sit 930 Lumer uit.

Sit hom in 'n spotlight reflector en jy kan bv 1500 lumen kry, directional.
Sit dit in 'n spotlight, 'reputable 'soos lightforce (selfde lamp) en jy kry 8500 lumen kry.

It's all about the reflector!

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:01 am

OOOOMS wrote:It's all about the reflector!

Absoluut.

Post by **CasKru** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:08 am

Another example of a reflect-her

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:30 am

Clearly :wink2:

Gunta · Post by **Gunta** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:01 am

And much better looking too...

legend35 · Post by **legend35** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:08 am

CasKru wrote:Another example of a reflect-her

Can I put two of those in my Bakkie

warrenaken · Post by **warrenaken** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:03 pm

So tried to fit my bulb this evening and it does not fit :evil:
The problem is not only what Mark was showing above (I think....) but also the length of the bulb itself, so have had to stick the 9 led back in. So now Mark will have to test it for me coz I can look into the oven but not my light!

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:17 pm

Warren do you have a pic of the work light? And where the standard lamp fits in or is supposed to fit in?

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:55 am

OOOOMS wrote:Warren do you have a pic of the work light? And where the standard lamp fits in or is supposed to fit in?

H-denomination is industry standard for the fitting, not the length of the globe.

warrenaken · Post by **warrenaken** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:57 am

Ok, so the worklight is one of thoes standard hella type one, and the bulb is too long from the fitting to the glass, as shown below (a picture is worth a thousand words!).
The second problem is the "hole" to put the bulb in is a square hole(yellow)and narrower than the top (neg), so the fatter round cluster (red) of LED's does not fit through, as in the second pic.

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OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:05 am

Tx Warren, those also look like 2/3mm LED's, if you can rather try and source 5mm or larger LED's

10mm LED's are super bright :wink2:

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:27 am

Warren, that is the six sided LED?? I've bought a set of them and a set of the 4 sided ones as well.

warrenaken · Post by **warrenaken** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:39 am

I have the 4 sided led in at the moment, they are 5mm as far as i know. still throws a good beam if it is dark, the problem is when there are other light sources, it seems to get drown out a bit.

something like this

Post by **pietpetoors** » Tue May 03, 2011 10:40 am

Think these will fit through the hole?
Warren, what is the length your work light can take?
Does all the work lights use H3 globes or does some use H4 or H7 as well?
Would you prefer warm white, cool white or just white?

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Rooikappie · Post by **Rooikappie** » Tue May 03, 2011 1:30 pm

Piet, het jy hierdie H3 lampe in jou voorraad?

Indien nie , is dit hier naby te koop.?

Lourens

Post by **pietpetoors** » Tue May 03, 2011 3:14 pm

Lourens, hulle is nog nie hier nie, ek moet nou juis weer voorraad van kar ligte bestel en wil kyk wat ek moet byvoeg tot my bestelling, dit is hoekom ek vra

Post by **pietpetoors** » Mon May 30, 2011 11:42 am

Ek het toe van die H3 lampe gekry.

Sien
http://www.4x4direct.co.za/shop/index.p ... cts_id=117