@lantis 09 may 2009

Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Mon May 11, 2009 8:08 am

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Post by **CasKru** » Mon May 11, 2009 8:23 am

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Mon May 11, 2009 8:29 am

Kaspaas and I had a lekker run. I am not going to speak for the rest of the group, and will allow the BFI boys to tell us more about their experiences in the dunes, and how their modifications held up in sand driving. Pieter Piesang can also tell us how he experienced his first outing on the sand. The sand was not powdery soft, it was just damp, but not hard. This made some dunes easier to negotiate as there was nice traction in places.

Kaspaas does have a snag or 2 that Allan needs to attend to this week, but nothing serious. We got home in 1 piece. The top radiator hose got chowed by the alternator fins and started leaking, hence Kaspaas's bonnet being open, but Manie jumped in and after we duct-taped it and applied a few cable-ties everything was 100%.

Coenie's Rotbakkie is gaining respect big time. There is just no stopping that Ford 30-S. And he took on some lekker obstacles and made them first time. Especially the long uphill behind the Horseshoe.

Manie's 2.2 is very well setup, and we had a lot of fun. I am looking forward to playing some more Manie.

Richard did post some pictures at this location: http://picasaweb.google.com/Everatts/At ... ennieTrail#

Jacques and 2 of his Triton buddies also joined us there, and after a serious calculation error Jacques pranged the front of his Triton so bad he had to be towed out as the radiator was punctured. Up until then the Tritons were doing very well in the sand.

:roll:

To everybody who attended, thank you for a pleasurable day... We must do this again soon

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Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Mon May 11, 2009 9:10 am

The 2 BFi's ran great... Rich still needs to dyno his, the engine differences(cam, compression) between my 4Y engine and his, mean that my dyno'd map is not really well suited to his lux. Tyres(size and pressure) make a huge difference too... Bennie learnt really quickly that you can't crawl in the dune sand, rev's is the only way... Manie, with his rig showed us all that the humble 4Y carb engine in the right hands is an awesome machine... he's got a nice rig! Thys... Mr Cool, Calm and Collected, your 7MGE showed again the nothing can beat pure horsepower... wheel turning/sand churning power delux... Pieter Pretorius... I love that engine, the 3RZ in his lux is running really sweet, that bakkie ran through the dunes sonder fuss! Piesang and friends... it was great to meet you guys in person... your lux did really well, even your friends 3.0D didn't stand back for any 'petrol rated' challenge... Coenie showed us all that the Ford 3L V6 married to an SFA hilux... in the right hands... is an extremely potent combination... Bees will be bees... with 2 big boys and a heavy sandbag in the loadbin... an unlimited supply of cold beer(brain petrol)... bees showed us all that there's not much his 2.7VVTi 4x2(with rear diffloc) can't do that a 4x4 can! Niel... and his legendary KTZE... ummmmmmm... weren't there....

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Dadz Toy BFI · Post by **Dadz Toy BFI** » Mon May 11, 2009 9:18 am

I sat down to write a lekker Trail Report but I couldn't get past the first line:

We got there nice and early...........

well 99% of us did

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Mon May 11, 2009 10:11 am

well 99% of us did

Payback is sweet... At least I wasn't 2 hours late...

Bees · Post by **Bees** » Mon May 11, 2009 10:24 am

Jis - Jis

Ja ek wil ook net dankie se vir almal, dit was weereens lekker, dankie vir die manne wat my twee keer moes uit sleep, Thys en OOM Paul ( met daai wiile geel gevaar ).

Maar ja, behalwe vir daai insidente, was dit lekker, was lekker om almal te sien en so bietjie stront te praat.

Net jammer ek het so 'n paar skrapies opgedoen met my laaste eskepades, maar dit is ook seker maar deel van die sport.

So, se maar net wanneer en ek is weer daar.

P.S. Ek sal duin ry lesse gee op aanvraag, prys onderhandelbaar.

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Mon May 11, 2009 10:30 am

Kaspaas wrote:
well 99% of us did
Payback is sweet... At least I wasn't 2 hours late...

That rachet strap seat mod definitely gave KasPaas that extra bit of traction required for sand driving... please can you post the method and a list of parts required as I too would like to do that mod...

Dune driving on the seat of your pants!

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Mon May 11, 2009 10:57 am

snipes wrote:That rachet strap seat mod definitely gave KasPaas that extra bit of traction required for sand driving... please can you post the method and a list of parts required as I too would like to do that mod...

I promise you you dont want to do that mod. My feet could not reach the pedals properly, and most gear changes were made without using the clutch. Luckily I drove enough army trucks in my life to know how to do that.

The front seat mounts broke (too many Heinekens and an overdose of chips on Friday night), freaky I know, how it happened still is still beyond me. That was the reason for me being late.. I just hooked the hooks of the ratchet stap on either side of the seat into that rail under the front mounts, and tightened it. it kept the seat in place, but the seat could not move.

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:01 am

[quote="Kaspaas"]My feet could not reach the pedals properly[quote]

Haaaa... I wondered why KasPaas seemed to only be able to reach 4500rpm... cause you couldn't press the accelerator any further...

next mod... pedal extensions... for emergency situations...

B

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:02 am

snipes wrote: next mod... pedal extensions... for emergency situations...

Nope, next mod.. fix the bloody seat..

Piesang · Post by **Piesang** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:18 am

Manne dit is lekker om nou gesigte by die name te sit, as ek net kan onthou watter gesig pas by watter naam en by watter 4x4

Dit was regtig 'n lekkerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr dag.

Ek het baie geleer en dankie aan die wat advies gegee het, op die einde van die dag dink ek dat met jul advies, my bakkie se vermoë en anteering ek nogasl redelik goed gedoen het, want toe ek eers die pers se skoen baas geraak het kon ek die bul by die hoorings pak.

My bakkie is vanoggend in vir diens en as als reg loop is ek reg vir Botswana.

Piesang · Post by **Piesang** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:30 am

Oja en Bennie ek het toe toe ek my pa aflaai dat my suster die knipper deur my hare stoot sonder 'n kammetjie aan. Ek het my ma nof nooit so in tale hoor praat so toe ek daar klaar is nie.

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:33 am

Piesang wrote:Oja en Bennie ek het toe toe ek my pa aflaai dat my suster die knipper deur my hare stoot sonder 'n kammetjie aan. Ek het my ma nof nooit so in tale hoor praat so toe ek daar klaar is nie.

Ek kan nie anders nie Piesang, maar jy MOET 'n prenkie plak van jou nuwe haarstyl...

dalkill · Post by **dalkill** » Mon May 11, 2009 12:51 pm

what tyre pressure to do you guys run on these dunes?

Dadz Toy BFI · Post by **Dadz Toy BFI** » Mon May 11, 2009 2:14 pm

I was impressed with the Triton hey

(before e-broke finished bos)

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Mon May 11, 2009 2:18 pm

dalkill wrote:what tyre pressure to do you guys run on these dunes?

I started at 0.8 back and 0.7 front, by the time the sun started baking, they were at 0.9 and 0.8 respectively... after a bit of discussion with Manie and Thys I deflated to 0.5 all round... my one tyre did go flat, but that wasn't an issue, I just pumped it up with the super compressor, mounted in that pretty yellow SFA Lexus V8

So if you have got decent inflation/re-seating goodies, then 0.5 is fine... else 0.7

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Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Mon May 11, 2009 2:22 pm

Dadz Toy BFI wrote:I was impressed with the Triton hey

(before e-broke finished bos)

A bit more ground clearance and bigger tyres would make that Triton so much more capable... they sure wouldn't have been able to follow Manie around in std format, they would have been stuck in no time... the bit negative on those good looking vehicles is price, whats the bet that the front bumper and radiator replacement will be much more expensive than my entire 4Y engine rebuild...

dalkill · Post by **dalkill** » Mon May 11, 2009 2:30 pm

0.5 :wth:

that is like running on your rims

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Mon May 11, 2009 2:31 pm

snipes wrote:So if you have got decent inflation/re-seating goodies, then 0.5 is fine... else 0.7

Stick maar rather to 0.7

going as low as 0.5 you will de-bead a tyre in a flash, and if that happens while negotiating a dune/obstacle where you cannot stop and re-bead safely, you are prone to damage the tyre and even maybe the vehicle while getting to a level surface where you can work without putting people/vehicle at risk. And sometimes you need all 4 wheels to get down safely.

Tyres are buggers, they don't come off while the vehicle is nice and level with lots of space to work safely So my suggestion is to not go any lower that 0.7 on fronts, maybe 0.6 on the rears, any lower than that and you must not make any sharp turns.

Piesang · Post by **Piesang** » Tue May 12, 2009 8:06 am

Ek was die oggend net voor 8 by die hek en het gewag tot so 8:20 en die bande laat sak tot 1 met so bietjie koukus onder die manne het ek Thys se raad gevol en dit daar gehou om die gevoel te kry van wat dit op die sand doen. Ek moet sê ek het nogal goed gevaar.

By middag toe ons deur die 8 gegaan het was die temp goed op en die druk 1.2, ek het toe eers met die druk in die gat gaan speel in verskullende rat verhoudings tussen lae en hoog 4. Uit die gat het Thys my terug gestuur met bande af na .8 dit was 'n groot verskul ek kon dit amper nie glo nie en kon toe sien hoekom ek op party plekke so bietjie gesukkel het. En vir die manne wat nie daar was nie ek het standaard 245x15 op.

Na die laaste groot hundernis terwyl ons kaspaas se bennegoed bekyk het het die regter voor heeltemal pap geword, gelukkig op gelyk grond met genoeg werk plek om die bakkie. Daai geel hiluxus het ook tot my reding ge kom, want ek het nie 'n hilift jack nie en nog 'n les geleer toe ons een tussen die manne geleen het, al gebruik jy jack nooit ter wyl jy hom het maak gereeld seker hys werk glad. Dankie vir die berydwilligheid om my te wou help met die hilift jack

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Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Tue May 12, 2009 8:09 am

I will join you next time, why is there no pics of the BFI's clearing the big dunes?

Piesang · Post by **Piesang** » Tue May 12, 2009 8:14 am

Ek kan nie anders nie Piesang, maar jy MOET 'n prenkie plak van jou nuwe haarstyl

So in die helfte van die proses het my suster eers gestop en ek het vir my ma gesê dit is hoe ek nou my hare gaan los, nou al is jy oor veertig en jou ma oor 70 gaan jy nog onder die besem deur loop.

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Tue May 12, 2009 8:20 am

Pieter, die girls gaan tou staan boet!!

Piesang · Post by **Piesang** » Tue May 12, 2009 8:25 am

Kaspaas wrote:Pieter, die girls gaan tou staan boet!!

Ek moet darm sê daai klos is ook af.

Dadz Toy BFI · Post by **Dadz Toy BFI** » Tue May 12, 2009 8:58 am

Hoppy wrote:
why is there no pics of the BFI's clearing the big dunes?

Just for you Allan man

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Tue May 12, 2009 9:11 am

With that amount of sand being kicked out the back it looks more like it is stuck on a little dune...

Niel · Post by **Niel** » Tue May 12, 2009 9:33 am

and it is a BFI ...and you say it is a little dune :shifty:

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Tue May 12, 2009 10:06 am

Enough said!

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Tue May 12, 2009 10:15 am

This was Bennie's first attempt at a dune... in Bolt my lux... nice pic...

I'm the Nut that drives Bolt...

dalkill · Post by **dalkill** » Tue May 12, 2009 11:20 am

nee wat, ek sal maar moet plan maak om eendag saam met julle te kom speel... net om te sien of die LPG powered lux dit ook kan maak....

Maniac · Post by **Maniac** » Tue May 12, 2009 6:19 pm

Thys ek vind dat die staal rims (Prowhites) die bande mooi vashou, so ek ry altyd op 0.5 in die duine. Mens moet regtig mooi *a* aanjaag voordat hulle afklim (dieselfde met die 31 bfg A/T's en die 33 Bighorns). As die bande stywer is dan sukkel mens te veel (en ja ek deel nou tips uit).

Miskien met swaarder bakkies / canopies sal dit 'n probleem wees?

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Tue May 12, 2009 6:33 pm

Maniac wrote:Thys ek vind dat die staal rims (Prowhites) die bande mooi vashou, so ek ry altyd op 0.5 in die duine. Mens moet regtig mooi tjol aanjaag voordat hulle afklim (dieselfde met die 31 bfg A/T's en die 33 Bighorns). As die bande stywer is dan sukkel mens te veel (en ja ek deel nou tips uit).

Miskien met swaarder bakkies / canopies sal dit 'n probleem wees?

Dis eerder 'n kwessie van experience Manie. Jy moet weet hoe om met sulke pap bande te ry sonder om hulle af te trap. Laat die ouens wat nie weet nie maar eerder op bietjie hoër druk leer dan kan hulle later verder afkom, soos hulle meer vertroue opbou. My bande was Saterdag self 0.4 agter en 0.6 voor.

Piesang · Post by **Piesang** » Wed May 13, 2009 9:34 am

Kaspaas wrote:
Maniac wrote:Thys ek vind dat die staal rims (Prowhites) die bande mooi vashou, so ek ry altyd op 0.5 in die duine. Mens moet regtig mooi tjol aanjaag voordat hulle afklim (dieselfde met die 31 bfg A/T's en die 33 Bighorns). As die bande stywer is dan sukkel mens te veel (en ja ek deel nou tips uit).

Miskien met swaarder bakkies / canopies sal dit 'n probleem wees?
Dis eerder 'n kwessie van experience Manie. Jy moet weet hoe om met sulke pap bande te ry sonder om hulle af te trap. Laat die ouens wat nie weet nie maar eerder op bietjie hoër druk leer dan kan hulle later verder afkom, soos hulle meer vertroue opbou. My bande was Saterdag self 0.4 agter en 0.6 voor.

Dan kan ek my self gerus op die skouer klop as ek dink ek my toy was die toy met die kleinste bande en redlik hard teen oor julle toys sin. Dan dink ek telwel dink ek, ek het gemaklik oor die grootste deel van die terein gekom.

Ek moet sê ek was sk..t bang om op die sand te gaan.

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Wed May 13, 2009 9:37 am

Ja nee wel gedaan Pieter. sand is lekker...

BenHur · Post by **BenHur** » Thu May 14, 2009 1:38 am

Waar is die res van die foudies mense, en ons wil sien hoe 'n Poena Piesang lyk

Dadz Toy BFI · Post by **Dadz Toy BFI** » Thu May 14, 2009 7:25 am

BenHur wrote:Waar is die res van die foudies mense, en ons wil sien hoe 'n Poena Piesang lyk

Looks like I was the only happy-snappy-hilux-chappie :roll:

So they are here bro:

http://picasaweb.google.com/Everatts/At ... ennieTrail#

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Thu May 14, 2009 8:32 am

Dadz Toy BFI wrote:
BenHur wrote:Waar is die res van die foudies mense, en ons wil sien hoe 'n Poena Piesang lyk

Looks like I was the only happy-snappy-hilux-chappie :roll:

So they are here bro:

http://picasaweb.google.com/Everatts/At ... ennieTrail#

Richard... Bennie is referring to the pics taken at Kriges, but I suspect the camera operator forgot to switch the camera on!

B

Dadz Toy BFI · Post by **Dadz Toy BFI** » Thu May 14, 2009 8:47 am

snipes wrote:
Dadz Toy BFI wrote:
BenHur wrote:Waar is die res van die foudies mense, en ons wil sien hoe 'n Poena Piesang lyk

Looks like I was the only happy-snappy-hilux-chappie :roll:

So they are here bro:

http://picasaweb.google.com/Everatts/At ... ennieTrail#

Richard... Bennie is referring to the pics taken at Kriges, but I suspect the camera operator forgot to switch the camera on!

B

Hmmmmm....... too much "falling over juice" consumed hey :roll:

Niel · Post by **Niel** » Thu May 14, 2009 11:23 pm

No No..here it is with all the ????

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Fri May 15, 2009 7:05 am

did you get vaseline all over that lens Niel?

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Fri May 15, 2009 8:28 am

Kaspaas wrote:did you get vaseline all over that lens Niel?

Chip oil!

Piesang · Post by **Piesang** » Fri May 15, 2009 8:35 am

BenHur wrote:Waar is die res van die foudies mense, en ons wil sien hoe 'n Poena Piesang lyk

Dis nou nie die beste van foto nie maar dis hoe 'n Poena Piesang lyk

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Fri May 15, 2009 8:46 am

bliksement!

Dadz Toy BFI · Post by **Dadz Toy BFI** » Fri May 15, 2009 8:49 am

Bennie left quite an impression on you then Pieter

R

Piesang · Post by **Piesang** » Fri May 15, 2009 9:11 am

bliksement!

Ja ek lyk maar sleg

Bennie left quite an impression on you then Pieter

Die foto was toe ek my hare vir kanker laatsny het verlede jaar en die keer het ek net besluit ek gaan nie met daai bos hare soor julle my Saterdag gesien het Botswana toe nie. Dis maklikker net 'n kaal kop.

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Fri May 15, 2009 9:37 am

Oh so that's what you look like...

At least we can see your face now... not hidden behind a serious mop of hair...

Niel · Post by **Niel** » Fri May 15, 2009 10:45 am

Kaspaas wrote:did you get vaseline all over that lens Niel?

it looks more like KY as you suggested we use.....Thysie why KY

They call it picture editing 101

Piesang · Post by **Piesang** » Fri May 15, 2009 10:45 am

snipes wrote:Oh so that's what you look like...

At least we can see your face now... not hidden behind a serious mop of hair...

BenHur · Post by **BenHur** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:53 pm

Mooi man Pieter I likes

Met lang hare het Pieter soos 'n country en western sanger gelyk, Nou lyk hu soos 'n punk rocker

Piesang · Post by **Piesang** » Tue May 19, 2009 12:15 pm

BenHur wrote:Mooi man Pieter I likes

Met lang hare het Pieter soos 'n country en western sanger gelyk, Nou lyk hu soos 'n punk rocker

My vrou sal haar pap lag hiervoor want ek is so van noot af soos kan kom. Ek is baie lief vir sing en dit maak dit nog al moeilik in die kerk as jy graag lekker wil saam sing, maar jy weet die mense om jou gaan dit nie wardeer nie.

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Tue May 19, 2009 12:31 pm

Piesang wrote:ek is so van noot af soos kan kom.

Alle punk rockers is van noot af, so jy is in goeie geselskap. Selfs meeste van die Afrikaanse kunstenaars is van noot af, so daar le 'n blink toekoms vir jou voor Pieter. Ek hoop net jy onthou nog ons "klein" outjies as jy eendag rich and famous is...

Piesang · Post by **Piesang** » Tue May 19, 2009 12:52 pm

Kaspaas wrote:
Piesang wrote:ek is so van noot af soos kan kom.
Alle punk rockers is van noot af, so jy is in goeie geselskap. Selfs meeste van die Afrikaanse kunstenaars is van noot af, so daar le 'n blink toekoms vir jou voor Pieter. Ek hoop net jy onthou nog ons "klein" outjies as jy eendag rich and famous is...

BenHur · Post by **BenHur** » Wed May 20, 2009 9:08 pm

Pieter

EK het 'n mic op my PC en 'n CD writer en 'n goeie colour lazer by die werk. Kom maak die naweek 'n draai dan record ons jou CD en sit dit volgende week op die rak. Jy sal geld maak soos bossies