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Hilux KZTE popping out of first gear

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:41 pm
by DeanG
My Hilux KZTE diesel (2001), when pulling off 1st gear pops out ? Toyota tells me that they need to strip the gear box before they can tell me whats wrong. Has anyone experienced this issue before and what might be the cause?

Re: Hilux KZTE popping out of first gear

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:52 pm
by Mud Dog
Hi and welcome Dean. :thumbup:

I don't think that this is a common problem but If I recall correctly, someone here on the forum had a similar problem not too long ago. I don't know if it was resolved and how, but you could do a search using key words like "Jump out of gear" and see what comes up.

Best of luck getting to the cause of the problem. :winkx:

Re: Hilux KZTE popping out of first gear

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:30 pm
by pietpetoors
My KZ box is doing the same. The gearbox workshops also say they must strip it and see. I learned to just hold the lever with my hand for now, do not have time to fix now.

Re: Hilux KZTE popping out of first gear

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:53 am
by DeanG
Hey guys
Thanks for the response. Yip I had a look through the forums, with out much success, but will give it another go. Another Hilux owner has suggested a mechanic (by the name of Gawie Rossouw) in Pretoria north who specializes in 4x4 Toyota repairs. So I'll be giving him a call to see what he can do. Maybe take this opportunity to service the gear box as well.
@piet yeah thats what I've been doing :D: .

Re: Hilux KZTE popping out of first gear

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:04 am
by pietpetoors
@piet yeah thats what I've been doing :D: .
Problem is only when you seriously 4x4'ing and concentrating on the road I sometimes forget to hold the lever and then it pops out where you need it most.

Re: Hilux KZTE popping out of first gear

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:27 am
by KZTE Nut
Yes my KZTE (2000) does that too every now and again with an alarming loud knocking sound ! Scares the bejabbers out of me...

Re: Hilux KZTE popping out of first gear

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:52 am
by DeanG
@kztenut it even more fun when it pops out and your towing horses. :shock2:

Re: Hilux KZTE popping out of first gear

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:49 pm
by Bear
DeanG wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:53 am Hey guys
Another Hilux owner has suggested a mechanic (by the name of Gawie Rossouw) in Pretoria north who specializes in 4x4 Toyota repairs.
Hi Dean
Can you forward me the contact details of Gawie. Always looking for good mechanics with experience on the 4x4's. it's difficult to find honest, reliable mechanics.

Re: Hilux KZTE popping out of first gear

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:18 pm
by Thabogrobler
To recon the bearings on the R151F boxes is around R6k at Ultimate 4x4. Maybe change the clutch kit while the box is out?

Re: Hilux KZTE popping out of first gear

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:23 pm
by Fourbou
Advies ook hier asb. -
My KZ (4x2) het ook uit eerste rat gespring. Ingevat en fout was klaarblyklik die syncro's and bearings. Syncro's en bearings vervang. Nou sukkel ek om dit in 1ste rat te kry wanneer ek wil wegtrek. Voel asof dit vassteek. Van 1ste na 2de - het eers gekrap om in 2de te gaan, maar klink nou beter. Van 2de na 3rde, haak ook vas, hou rat daar en dan in of laat clutch n klein bietjie los, dan in. Gebeur ook wanner terugskakel vanaf 4rde na 3rde. 4rde en 5de ratte voel glad en reg.
Eienaar van werkswinkel se dat dit maar die syncro,s en bearings is wat eers moet "inloop". Ek moet dit so week kansgee.
Klink nie vir my reg nie - eerstens daar is nou groter/meer probleme as voordat KZ ingegaan het;
Tweedens, hoekom moet syncro's en bearings eers "inloop". wanneer dit reg is, is dit mos reg.
Opinies sal waardeer word.

Re: Hilux KZTE popping out of first gear

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:42 pm
by pietpetoors
Verkeerde olie kan dit doen. Raak dit beter wanneer hy warm is?

Re: Hilux KZTE popping out of first gear

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:16 pm
by Fourbou
pietpetoors wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:42 pm Verkeerde olie kan dit doen. Raak dit beter wanneer hy warm is?
Nee, dit raak nie beter nie.

Re: Hilux KZTE popping out of first gear

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:48 pm
by KZTE-Vossa
Myne het presies dieselfde gedoen vandat ek dit in 2016 gekoop het. 2019 Desember haal ek die "gear lever" uit en sien dat die plastic bush wat op die bolletjie kom heeltemaal weg gevreet is. Dis nie eens meer daar nie. Gaan toe na Rola Toyota in Strand en na bietjie gesoek het hulle toe ene in stock. Sit dit in... voel sommer soos n nuwe boks.

Weet nie of die probleem 100% reg is nie, maar het n 2000km trip gedoen Richtersveld en terug... nog nie een keer weer uitgespring nie.

R72 vir die bush by Toyota.

Dalk die moeite werd on dit te probeer.

Re: Hilux KZTE popping out of first gear

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:21 pm
by pietpetoors
Klink moontlik, as daar speling op die bush is gaan hy dalk nie heel in rat nie. Sal bietjie loer, dankie vir daai een.

Re: Hilux KZTE popping out of first gear

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:37 pm
by Thabogrobler
KZTE-Vossa wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:48 pm Myne het presies dieselfde gedoen vandat ek dit in 2016 gekoop het. 2019 Desember haal ek die "gear lever" uit en sien dat die plastic bush wat op die bolletjie kom heeltemaal weg gevreet is. Dis nie eens meer daar nie. Gaan toe na Rola Toyota in Strand en na bietjie gesoek het hulle toe ene in stock. Sit dit in... voel sommer soos n nuwe boks.

Weet nie of die probleem 100% reg is nie, maar het n 2000km trip gedoen Richtersveld en terug... nog nie een keer weer uitgespring nie.

R72 vir die bush by Toyota.

Dalk die moeite werd on dit te probeer.
Het jy dalk 'n part nommer?

Re: Hilux KZTE popping out of first gear

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:16 am
by DeanG
So I just wantt to give some feedback. I found a gearbox repair place in Strydom park randburg.
https://www.google.co.za/maps/place/QnA ... authuser=0
Apparently this is a know issue for the gear box and there is a kit that resolves the issue. I had it fitted and been driving for a few months with out any problems.

Re: Hilux KZTE popping out of first gear

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:26 pm
by pietpetoors
Same here, Mayfair Gearbox in Brackenfell rebuilt my KZ box and the problem has also been solved. Is a pleasure to drive it now.