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Seeing that quite a few fellow Hiluxers have chosen Namibia as their Holiday destination; a heads up (or should I say lights down?):
A couple of 4x4 owners have been fined for having fitted LED bars to their vehicles. The fines were reportedly in the region of N$2000! Not sure what the legislation is in SA, but the LED bars are in contravention with the law in terms of number of lights fitted and brightness of the lights. Don't try to argue with the officers, it will only get you into deeper trouble.

Apparently some were allowed to remove the LED bars then and there in order to avoid the hefty fine, but this seems to be the exception rather than the rule.

smokintyres wrote:Seeing that quite a few fellow Hiluxers have chosen Namibia as their Holiday destination; a heads up (or should I say lights down?):
A couple of 4x4 owners have been fined for having fitted LED bars to their vehicles. The fines were reportedly in the region of N$2000! Not sure what the legislation is in SA, but the LED bars are in contravention with the law in terms of number of lights fitted and brightness of the lights. Don't try to argue with the officers, it will only get you into deeper trouble.

Apparently some were allowed to remove the LED bars then and there in order to avoid the hefty fine, but this seems to be the exception rather than the rule.

They are too bright in my opinion, which could lead to fatalities if you accidently leave them on and someone comes from the front...... just my 2cw

does it goes same for roof mount spotlight.?

South African Legislation..

1) The head lamps of a motor vehicle shall be fitted –
a) at a height of not less than 450 millimetres and not more than one comma four metres above ground level, measured to the centre of the lamp; and
b) not more than 500 millimetres behind the front-end of the vehicle.

2) The head lamps and fog lamps of a motor vehicle shall, unless the design of the lamps incorporates some other means of preventing a dangerous glare to oncoming traffic, not be fitted with lenses of clear glass or other like material.

3) When two or more of the same lamps are fitted to a vehicle they shall –
a) be placed symmetrically in relation to the longitudinal centerline of the vehicle; and
b) except in the case of side marker lamps and direction-indicator lamps, be so placed that any lamp on the side of the vehicle concerned shall have a corresponding lamp at the same height on the other side of such vehicle.

4) Every lamp required to be fitted to a vehicle shall be securely fixed.

5) The lens and reflector of every lamp required to be fitted to or used in connection with any vehicle shall be maintained in an effective and reasonably clean condition.

6) No lamp required to be fitted to or displayed in connection with a vehicle shall be totally or partially obscured by any fitting or object on the vehicle.

7) The provisions of subregulation (1) shall not apply to main beam lamps that comply with the requirements of standard specification SABS 1046 "Motor vehicle safety specification for lights and light signaling devices installed on motor vehicle and trailers", and standard specification SABS 1376 "Lights for motor vehicles", Part 2:Head lights" and which is homologated as such by the Inspectorate of Manufacturers, Importers and Builders.

Ja ons kry boetes vir die LED bar ligte, meeste van my vriende het ook gekry en daarom het ek besluit om maar by my Hellas te bly. Spotlights bo op die rollbar is ook 'n groot nee-nee, daar voor het ek ook boete betaal

die LED's word nie omskryf of beskryf of is nie gemagtig in die regulasies nie, hier is die reuglasie wat die LED's verbied en hierdie regulasies moet gewysig word om voorsiening vir dit te maak. Lamps not prescribed or authorised are prohibited

203. No lamp, other than a lamp prescribed or authorised in terms of these regulations, may at any time be fitted to any vehicle operated on a public road

Is dié dan ook onwettig omdat dit LED's is?



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LED LIGHTS USED ON VEHICLES – LEGAL, OR ILLEGAL??

Dave Viljoen 'n voertuig moet van twee hooflampe voorsien wees wat 'n domplig en rylig uitstraal, dan gaan die regulasie voort en se dat 'n voertuig mag 4 hooflampe he waarvan die vier ryligte moet uitstraal en as dit gedomp word moet die twee binneste ligte uitgedoof word en die buitenste ligte moet dompligte uitstraal en dan praat die regulasie verder en se dat daar twee mislampe aangebring mag word wat of geel of 'n wit lig uitstraal en dit moet 'n domplig uitstraal en mag net gedurende ongure weer gebruik word. Hierdie lampe moet aan die sterkte voldoen wat voorgeskryf word en aangebring word soos ek reeds verduidelik het volgens die hoogte, diepte. Wanneer daar na die LED ligte se sterkte kyk is dit te skerp en sterk, en soos reeds gese word dit nie volgens die SANS kode omskryf nie. Wanneer daar na die sterkte van 'n gloeilamp gekyk word sal dit opgemerk word dat agter op die plaatjie van die lamp staan die sterkte 55/75 en dit is wat goedgekeur is. Daar is lampe beskikbaar wat 'n sterkte van tot 200/225 aandui, maar dit is te sterk. Ek verstaan die beamptes is besig om streng op te tree en skort die voertuie se gebruik op as die lampe nie voldoen nie, wees asb versigtig
203. No lamp, other than a lamp prescribed or authorised in terms of these regulations, may at any time be fitted to any vehicle operated on a public road.
Hierdie regulasie maak dit onwettig


A vehicle must be fitted with two main lamps that must be able to radiate a dimmed-light and main-light. The regulation further stipulates that a vehicle MAY be fitted with 4 head lamps radiating four driving lights, and the two inner lights, when dimmed, must automatically extinguish and the two outer lights must the emit dimmed-lights.
The regulation further states that two fog lamps may be fitted and may radiate only a yellow or white light, but must radiate only a dimmed-light and further must only be used and emit light during inclement weather.
These lamps must comply with the strength that is prescribed, and fitted as I have already explained, according to the height and depth.
Looking at the LED light’s intensity, it is too sharp and strong, and is not included in the definition of the SANS codes.
To determine the strength of a light bulb, look at the back plate of the lamp … the intensity is indicated as 55/75 and this is approved. There are lights available of up to 200/225, but this is too strong. I understand the traffic-officers are busy with firm action and suspending the use of vehicles with lamps that do not comply, please be careful

203 . No. lamp, other than a lamp prescribed or authorized in terms of these regulations, at Any Time May be Fitted to Any vehicle operated on a public road .

This regulation makes it illegal

louis fourie wrote:Is dié dan ook onwettig omdat dit LED's is?



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Hier by ons, Ja. Maar die ouens wat die meeste boetes kry is die met die bars op. Hulle is nog bietjie dom om te besef die rondes is ook LEDs.

All Led fitted lights will be treated as illegal in Namibia unlest it is Factory fitted and will be fined accordingly.

ahgee wrote:does it goes same for roof mount spotlight.?

Roof mounted spots are stricly speaking, illegal in RSA. However, some provincial authorities or principalities may choose to turn a blind eye as long as they're connected with a completely independent switch - some will also ask that the lights have covers when the vehicle is operated on any public road.

Better to leave them off and be safe - furthermore, they might look 'cool' but they serve no real purpose other than for night game viewing and how often do you do that. They also get snagged in the bush and sometimes don't fit under a standard garage door height.

I'd rather fit some decent driving lights up front than on the roof.

Jagmeester wrote:All Led fitted lights will be treated as illegal in Namibia unlest it is Factory fitted and will be fined accordingly.

Jagmeester, kan jy of enige iemand dalk laat weet of die regulasies intussen al verander het ivm die LED ligte, is hulle al wettig of nognie? Ons is immers amper 2 jaar later tussen die "posts" en ek beplan om Desember in julle geweste te kom rondry.

Daar was onlangs iets weer oor LEDs maar ek het ophou lees aan al die nonsense wat geskryf word.

Die LED bar is nog steeds onwettig en sal seker so bly dink ek. Die regulasie verwys na watts as max sterkte per gloeilamp maar LED met daai watts raak baie skerp. Die LED bar maak die voertuig onpadwaarding tov die regulasie omdat dit nie twee kol ligte is nie. Baie GRN voertuie ry met die LED bars rond en kom weg daarmee, maar toeriste is sagte teikens. Om daai ronde LED spotligts onpadwaardig te bewys in die hof kan seker ingewikkeld raak.

N LED is n gloeilamp net soos n enige ander gloeilamp. Ek praat onder korreksie maar ek dink hulle het dit nou so aanvaar.

Indien werklik nodig sit daai ronde LEDs op maar hou n cover oor dit.

Lots of articles are available on the matter.
I find this one to be the more comprehensive one:

http://www.mccarthy4x4.co.za/images/fil ... Letter.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Legislation governing the installation and use of Auxiliary lights on vehicles have not yet been amended to include LED lights of any kind. Thus, it is not legal to use on public roads, or even to be mounted on a vehicle using a public road. Not even when covered or disconnected.

Regulating the importers and re-sellers of LED bars is not the answer. Nothing wrong with selling a farmer a LED bar to fit on a vehicle he will only be using on his farm...

The only answer is to amend current legislation to include LED lights will do the trick. Until that has been done, LED's will remain illegal, and you will be at the mercy of the traffic official who pulls you over on a dark night in some rural town.

Baie dankie vir al die inligting. Ten minste weet ons waar ons staan met die Led bars.

Ons sal die 31ste Augustus finaal weet in Nam

Dankie Trevor, sal jy ons op hoogte hou as jy gehoor het seblief.

This is what I have done..
Got a 50mm low compression PVC off-cut (1m) for 10 bucks.
Cut the 1m length to size.
Cut away a 12mm strip..
..fits nicely over and it sits lekker tight.

The knights of the shady trees...they leave me alone now.

I had an officer here in NAM threatening to remove my licence disc for having an LED bar on. They say it should be removed,