I'm New
- Skroppie
- High Range 4WD
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- Town: Dalpark
- Vehicle: Willys CJ5
- Real Name: Dewald
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I'm New
Hi Everyone
My name is Dewald and I'm new to everything 4x4 but have been
introduced to 4x4'ing Thunder02
We only recently bought a Willys CJ7 and look forward to see what it can do
Yes I know it's a Jeep but the chassis and drivetrain comes out of Toyota.
My wife and I are very interested in offroading.
Looking forward to get involved in this 4x4 comunity
My name is Dewald and I'm new to everything 4x4 but have been
introduced to 4x4'ing Thunder02
We only recently bought a Willys CJ7 and look forward to see what it can do
Yes I know it's a Jeep but the chassis and drivetrain comes out of Toyota.
My wife and I are very interested in offroading.
Looking forward to get involved in this 4x4 comunity
- Thunder02
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- Town: East Rand
- Vehicle: IFS Hilux
- Real Name: Neil
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- Contact:
Re: I'm New
It's about time
Welcome Dewald
Welcome Dewald
Not all those who wander are lost!
Scout motto:be prepared....
www.4x4direct.co.za
Email: boksburg@4x4direct.co.za
IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!
Scout motto:be prepared....
www.4x4direct.co.za
Email: boksburg@4x4direct.co.za
IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!
- Thunder02
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Re: I'm New
By the way,pictures are great proof
Not all those who wander are lost!
Scout motto:be prepared....
www.4x4direct.co.za
Email: boksburg@4x4direct.co.za
IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!
Scout motto:be prepared....
www.4x4direct.co.za
Email: boksburg@4x4direct.co.za
IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!
- Ali3n
- Monster Truck
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- Location: Roodepoort
Re: I'm New
Welcome Dewald.
Post a pic of your ride or we don't believe you.
Post a pic of your ride or we don't believe you.
PRESENTLY DISADVANTAGED
Custom built Rock Sliders, Bumpers, Belly protection.... Anything you can think of
Cell: 076 122 3744 E-Mail: fpanaino@gmail.com
Bear Grylls calls it "Ultimate Survival", overlanders call it "Camping"
Custom built Rock Sliders, Bumpers, Belly protection.... Anything you can think of
Cell: 076 122 3744 E-Mail: fpanaino@gmail.com
Bear Grylls calls it "Ultimate Survival", overlanders call it "Camping"
- Skroppie
- High Range 4WD
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- Town: Dalpark
- Vehicle: Willys CJ5
- Real Name: Dewald
- Club VHF Licence: X220
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Re: I'm New
Yeah - only own the Jeep for 16 hours.... will get there
But thanks a lot!!
But thanks a lot!!
- Samurai
- LR 4WD Full Lockers
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- Location: Pretoria, South Africa
Re: I'm New
Welcome!!
"from this day to the ending of the world... we in it shall be remembered. We lucky few, we band of brothers.
For he who today shed his blood with me shall be my brother."
- Ali3n
- Monster Truck
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Re: I'm New
It could have been full of mud by now...Skroppie wrote:Yeah - only own the Jeep for 16 hours.... will get there
But thanks a lot!!
Congrads on the new ride.
PRESENTLY DISADVANTAGED
Custom built Rock Sliders, Bumpers, Belly protection.... Anything you can think of
Cell: 076 122 3744 E-Mail: fpanaino@gmail.com
Bear Grylls calls it "Ultimate Survival", overlanders call it "Camping"
Custom built Rock Sliders, Bumpers, Belly protection.... Anything you can think of
Cell: 076 122 3744 E-Mail: fpanaino@gmail.com
Bear Grylls calls it "Ultimate Survival", overlanders call it "Camping"
- Skroppie
- High Range 4WD
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Re: I'm New
I'll make a point of it to take a pic
Thanks for the warm welcome...
Thanks for the warm welcome...
- Skroppie
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Re: I'm New
Hope the avatar pic is sufficient till I can take my own pics
- Skroppie
- High Range 4WD
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Re: I'm New
Thanks Neil - now to join the club........Thunder02 wrote:It's about time
Welcome Dewald
- Skroppie
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Re: I'm New
Thanks Cassie... dis n lekker gevoel om nie net 'n plat kar te he nie!!CasKru wrote:Welkom Dewald. Hoop jy geniet dit hier
- Thunder02
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Re: I'm New
Skroppie wrote:Thanks Neil - now to join the club........Thunder02 wrote:It's about time
Welcome Dewald
Not all those who wander are lost!
Scout motto:be prepared....
www.4x4direct.co.za
Email: boksburg@4x4direct.co.za
IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!
Scout motto:be prepared....
www.4x4direct.co.za
Email: boksburg@4x4direct.co.za
IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!
- Hilux 1
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Re: I'm New
maybe it is again
- Thunder02
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Re: I'm New
Not all those who wander are lost!
Scout motto:be prepared....
www.4x4direct.co.za
Email: boksburg@4x4direct.co.za
IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!
Scout motto:be prepared....
www.4x4direct.co.za
Email: boksburg@4x4direct.co.za
IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!
- Skroppie
- High Range 4WD
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- Joined: Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:15 am
- Town: Dalpark
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Re: I'm New
Ja ja jaThunder02 wrote:
- Skroppie
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Re: I'm New
ThanksHilux 1 wrote: maybe it is again
We won't sell so easy - we waited for this day for quite some time....
- Thunder02
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Re: I'm New
Well if you not,I'll will
Not all those who wander are lost!
Scout motto:be prepared....
www.4x4direct.co.za
Email: boksburg@4x4direct.co.za
IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!
Scout motto:be prepared....
www.4x4direct.co.za
Email: boksburg@4x4direct.co.za
IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!
- Froll
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Re: I'm New
Welkom Dewald, hoop jy geniet jou ry ding en die forum.
- AM Racing
- LR4WD, Lockers, Crawler Gears
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- Vehicle: Range Rover Classic V8
- Real Name: Dylan
- Location: East London
Re: I'm New
Welcome! But do I see an always Ultra Jeep
Is that with wings?
Is that with wings?
- KOBUSL
- Monster Truck
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- Real Name: KOBUS
Re: I'm New
Friends don't let friends drive Jeeps. Grappie
Ennieway : baie welkom Dewald. Hier gaan jy leer lieg ( oor pryse van toebehore ), en ek hoop jy het 'n diiiiik beursie ( vir die toebehore )
Skottelgoedmasjiene, grassnyers en yskaste is in elk geval nie so belangrik soos taaiers en rims en wen-aste nie. Almal op hierdie forum sal dit kan bevestig.
Ennieway : baie welkom Dewald. Hier gaan jy leer lieg ( oor pryse van toebehore ), en ek hoop jy het 'n diiiiik beursie ( vir die toebehore )
Skottelgoedmasjiene, grassnyers en yskaste is in elk geval nie so belangrik soos taaiers en rims en wen-aste nie. Almal op hierdie forum sal dit kan bevestig.
Word te vinnig oud en te stadig wys.
- Modder Tekkies
- Low Range 4WD
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Re: I'm New
Welkom Dewald
Waar is die FOTOS
Waar is die FOTOS
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- LR4WD, Lockers, Crawler Gears
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Re: I'm New
Welkom Dewald -ek sit en wonder nou net moet ons jou glo ,want ek sien nog Geen Kiekkies????Skroppie wrote:Thanks Cassie... dis n lekker gevoel om nie net 'n plat kar te he nie!!CasKru wrote:Welkom Dewald. Hoop jy geniet dit hier
- Mud Dog
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Re: I'm New
Wecome aboard, Dewald ..... Jeep and all!
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Kobus, the catch-phrase is actually something more along the lines of "Friends don't let friends drive junk".KOBUSL wrote:Friends don't let friends drive Jeeps. Grappie
Ennieway : baie welkom Dewald. Hier gaan jy leer lieg ( oor pryse van toebehore ), en ek hoop jy het 'n diiiiik beursie ( vir die toebehore )
Skottelgoedmasjiene, grassnyers en yskaste is in elk geval nie so belangrik soos taaiers en rims en wen-aste nie. Almal op hierdie forum sal dit kan bevestig.
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When your road comes to an end ...... you need a HILUX!.
Life is like a jar of Jalapeño peppers ... what you do today, might burn your ass tomorrow.
Don't take life too seriously ..... no-one gets out alive.
It's not about waiting for storms to pass. It's about learning to dance in the rain.
And be yourself ..... everyone else is taken!
Life is like a jar of Jalapeño peppers ... what you do today, might burn your ass tomorrow.
Don't take life too seriously ..... no-one gets out alive.
It's not about waiting for storms to pass. It's about learning to dance in the rain.
And be yourself ..... everyone else is taken!
- Thunder02
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Re: I'm New
Still no pic,although i missed a viewing opportunity last night :roll:
Not all those who wander are lost!
Scout motto:be prepared....
www.4x4direct.co.za
Email: boksburg@4x4direct.co.za
IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!
Scout motto:be prepared....
www.4x4direct.co.za
Email: boksburg@4x4direct.co.za
IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!
- KOBUSL
- Monster Truck
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Re: I'm New
Sorry, it's this age thing.Mud Dog wrote:Wecome aboard, Dewald ..... Jeep and all!
Kobus, the catch-phrase is actually something more along the lines of "Friends don't let friends drive junk".KOBUSL wrote:Friends don't let friends drive Jeeps. Grappie
Ennieway : baie welkom Dewald. Hier gaan jy leer lieg ( oor pryse van toebehore ), en ek hoop jy het 'n diiiiik beursie ( vir die toebehore )
Skottelgoedmasjiene, grassnyers en yskaste is in elk geval nie so belangrik soos taaiers en rims en wen-aste nie. Almal op hierdie forum sal dit kan bevestig.
.
Word te vinnig oud en te stadig wys.
- Thunder02
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Re: I'm New
Still nothing :boredom:
Not all those who wander are lost!
Scout motto:be prepared....
www.4x4direct.co.za
Email: boksburg@4x4direct.co.za
IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!
Scout motto:be prepared....
www.4x4direct.co.za
Email: boksburg@4x4direct.co.za
IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!
- gavin
- Low Range 4WD
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Re: I'm New
Welkom op die forem
- Thunder02
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Re: I'm New
Dewald's jeep.
Not all those who wander are lost!
Scout motto:be prepared....
www.4x4direct.co.za
Email: boksburg@4x4direct.co.za
IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!
Scout motto:be prepared....
www.4x4direct.co.za
Email: boksburg@4x4direct.co.za
IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!
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Re: I'm New
Welkom en geniet!!
- ThysdJ
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Re: I'm New
Welkom Dewald. Baie nice Jeep daai.
Thys de Jager
Fired as CEO and Refreshments Manager at Team Offroad.
2018 FJ Cruiser - #stofgevreet
1984 Mercedes 126 Black Widow Vernon Koekemoer Edition
email: thysdj@gmail.com
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Fired as CEO and Refreshments Manager at Team Offroad.
2018 FJ Cruiser - #stofgevreet
1984 Mercedes 126 Black Widow Vernon Koekemoer Edition
email: thysdj@gmail.com
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- Donkey
- Monster Truck
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Re: I'm New
Welcome and enjoy
From the Donkey's Desk, deep in the South
From the Donkey's Desk, deep in the South
Tumelo Maketekete
Donkey, simple and often misunderstood.
We don't stop playing because we grow old, but we grow old because we stop playing!
2002 - 3.0KZ-TE Toyota Hilux (Letebele)
1994 - 1.6i Gl Toyota Corolla (Platkar)
1990 - Gli TwinCam 16v (ZuluBoy)
Donkey, simple and often misunderstood.
We don't stop playing because we grow old, but we grow old because we stop playing!
2002 - 3.0KZ-TE Toyota Hilux (Letebele)
1994 - 1.6i Gl Toyota Corolla (Platkar)
1990 - Gli TwinCam 16v (ZuluBoy)
- Thunder02
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Re: I'm New
He also turned blue today,Damm another jeep in the club :wth:
Not all those who wander are lost!
Scout motto:be prepared....
www.4x4direct.co.za
Email: boksburg@4x4direct.co.za
IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!
Scout motto:be prepared....
www.4x4direct.co.za
Email: boksburg@4x4direct.co.za
IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!
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- High Range 4WD
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Re: I'm New
Welkom welkom is ok nuut hier mense baie vriendlik en behulpsaam
- ThysdJ
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Re: I'm New
Adding value and diversity...Thunder02 wrote:He also turned blue today,Damm another jeep in the club :wth:
Thys de Jager
Fired as CEO and Refreshments Manager at Team Offroad.
2018 FJ Cruiser - #stofgevreet
1984 Mercedes 126 Black Widow Vernon Koekemoer Edition
email: thysdj@gmail.com
Like Team Offroad on Facebook...
Fired as CEO and Refreshments Manager at Team Offroad.
2018 FJ Cruiser - #stofgevreet
1984 Mercedes 126 Black Widow Vernon Koekemoer Edition
email: thysdj@gmail.com
Like Team Offroad on Facebook...
- Thunder02
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- Contact:
Re: I'm New
We are a charity oriented clubThysdJ wrote:Adding value and diversity...Thunder02 wrote:He also turned blue today,Damm another jeep in the club :wth:
Not all those who wander are lost!
Scout motto:be prepared....
www.4x4direct.co.za
Email: boksburg@4x4direct.co.za
IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!
Scout motto:be prepared....
www.4x4direct.co.za
Email: boksburg@4x4direct.co.za
IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!
- Skroppie
- High Range 4WD
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- Town: Dalpark
- Vehicle: Willys CJ5
- Real Name: Dewald
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- Contact:
Re: I'm New
Thanx.. Feeling the loveThunder02 wrote:We are a charity oriented clubThysdJ wrote:Adding value and diversity...Thunder02 wrote:He also turned blue today,Damm another jeep in the club :wth:
Ek moet se ek dink dis nice om meer van 4x4 te leer by al die
Hiluxers
- subok
- LR 4WD Rear Locker
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- Real Name: Kobus
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- Location: Highlands North - Jhb
- Contact:
Re: I'm New
Welkom Dewald! Geniet dit hier.
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- Thunder02
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Re: I'm New
Dit gaan jou kosSkroppie wrote:Thanx.. Feeling the loveThunder02 wrote:We are a charity oriented clubThysdJ wrote:Adding value and diversity...Thunder02 wrote:He also turned blue today,Damm another jeep in the club :wth:
Ek moet se ek dink dis nice om meer van 4x4 te leer by al die
Hiluxers
Not all those who wander are lost!
Scout motto:be prepared....
www.4x4direct.co.za
Email: boksburg@4x4direct.co.za
IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!
Scout motto:be prepared....
www.4x4direct.co.za
Email: boksburg@4x4direct.co.za
IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!