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Free flow snorkel
It is common knowledge of how poor the air inlet and exhaust design on the KZTE is. I changed my exhaust system to a free flow (Downey USA) and modified my snorkel inlet. I went straight through the mud guard into the engine compartment with a 90mm pipe and rotated the air filter to fit this inlet. I cut the 90mm bend off the snorkel to allow for the straight pipe. This eliminates the 90 deg bend on the snorkel (and the severe restriction) as well as the 180 deg bend back to the conventional air cleaner. The losses through the narrowed sections and the bends are all eliminated. In addition to the above I modified the inside of the air cleaner by removing 70% of the air flow directional “cap” and flattening the inlet pipe lip that flows into the air cleaner.
I am absolutely amazed at the result, especially above 2000 rpm. I have not had it on a dyno but the change in performance is mind boggling even at low revs. It is interesting to note that the inlet air flow required by the KZ is 275 – 350CFM @ 2000 - 3000 rpm. The pipe design size to accommodate this air flow would ideally be 100mm without any additional restrictions like bends. Just by looking at the standard snorkel pipe configuration it can clearly be seen how much the inlet restrictions are.
We compared a normal KZ to the modified one on the same hill on the same day – all I can say is unbelievable! (Regretfully the photos will not attach..)
I am absolutely amazed at the result, especially above 2000 rpm. I have not had it on a dyno but the change in performance is mind boggling even at low revs. It is interesting to note that the inlet air flow required by the KZ is 275 – 350CFM @ 2000 - 3000 rpm. The pipe design size to accommodate this air flow would ideally be 100mm without any additional restrictions like bends. Just by looking at the standard snorkel pipe configuration it can clearly be seen how much the inlet restrictions are.
We compared a normal KZ to the modified one on the same hill on the same day – all I can say is unbelievable! (Regretfully the photos will not attach..)
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Re: Free flow snorkel
That ram air effect through the filter really is impressive.
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Pieter,
Is daar 'n verbetering in brandstof verbruik?
Hoe meer ek hierna kyk, hoe meer is ek oortuig dit sal 'n reuse verskil maak!
My oom het 'm 100 Series Cruiser, 4.5. Hy het my op 'n tyd vertel dat die ou wat aan sy trok werk aan die air inlet gepeuter het en dat hy nou so rondom die 7km/L kry - en ek dog dis 'n laaaaaaang storie. Maar ek dink tog nou dis moontlik...
Is daar 'n verbetering in brandstof verbruik?
Hoe meer ek hierna kyk, hoe meer is ek oortuig dit sal 'n reuse verskil maak!
My oom het 'm 100 Series Cruiser, 4.5. Hy het my op 'n tyd vertel dat die ou wat aan sy trok werk aan die air inlet gepeuter het en dat hy nou so rondom die 7km/L kry - en ek dog dis 'n laaaaaaang storie. Maar ek dink tog nou dis moontlik...
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Ek het vanaand laaaaaaank gekyk na die airbox en inlet - daar is verseker plek vir verbetering!
Die inlet op die airbox is maar 60mm in deursnee, met 'n 80mm lip. Ek gaan soek vir 'n 80mm 45 degree elbow en so 500mm Silikon pyp en dit onder toe vat tot verby die chassis rail. Dan ook daai directional dingetjie in die airbox groter sny.
Ek is oortuig daarvan die trok gaan beter trek en beter brandstof verbruik gee.
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Die inlet op die airbox is maar 60mm in deursnee, met 'n 80mm lip. Ek gaan soek vir 'n 80mm 45 degree elbow en so 500mm Silikon pyp en dit onder toe vat tot verby die chassis rail. Dan ook daai directional dingetjie in die airbox groter sny.
Ek is oortuig daarvan die trok gaan beter trek en beter brandstof verbruik gee.
Watch this space!
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Thabo, en as jy klaar is met joune, Dan doen jy myne dankie
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Ek kon nooit meer as 8km/l kry op my KZ nie, dan moet ek baie versigtig ry en 'n klip onder die pedaal sit. Ek het met my laaste tenk 9,66 km/l gekry en die enigste verskil was die "air cleaner mods". Ek het lank met Toyota tegnici gepraat en hulle stem almal saam dat dit werk - en ek het dit bewys. Die snorkel het geweldige "restrictions" en ek het op die forum gelees dat die pyp onder die modderskerm toeknyp agv die groot lugvloei ie 275 - 350 CFM. Dit is fisies onmoontlik om daardie lugvloei deur daardie dun pypie onder die modderskerm deur te kry. Die turbo suig teen 'n vacuum en suig die pyp toe en smoor agv die klein pypie. Probeer om direk van die snorkel af deur te gaan na jou air cleaner toe met 80mm pyp soos ek gemaak het, dan het jy die maks lugvloei vir jou enjin.
Hier is die identiese KZ in Mosselbaai en ons het die 2 getoets na die mod teen die steil opdraande in die hoofstraat. Die verskil is ongelooflik. Dit is hoekom die ouens met die resies karre altyd die lugfilters modify....
Hier is die identiese KZ in Mosselbaai en ons het die 2 getoets na die mod teen die steil opdraande in die hoofstraat. Die verskil is ongelooflik. Dit is hoekom die ouens met die resies karre altyd die lugfilters modify....
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Ek het vergeet om te sê - voor die mod het my turbo gefluit op 2100 rpm. Hy fluit nou op 1500 rpm wat duidelik bewys dat die turbo nou na die mod meer effektief werk.
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Ek het daai restrictor in die airbox sommer heeltemal uitgebrrak vandag - bietjie sweet en 'n groot tang skeur hy mooi van sy spot welds af.
Dit was baie nat vandag maar ek is 100% oortuig my trok trek nou baie beter!
Dit was baie nat vandag maar ek is 100% oortuig my trok trek nou baie beter!
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Thabo, laat ons weet hoe dit gaan, as hy beter is wil ek graag vir jou kom kuier
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kan iemand se of daar 'n verskil is met brandstof verbruik wanneer jy die silinser uithaal en vervang met 'n free flow saam met die lugfilter, want ek wil nie die hele exhaust systeem verander nie dit kos teveel
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Hallo HAnnes,
Ek het so 2 jaar gelede 'n dikker pp en freeflow silencer ingesit en dit het so klein verskilletjie gemaak. MAAR die trok trek ook beter.
Op 'n geheel sal ek se so rondom 0.2-0.5km/l beter.
Volgens Pieter het hy rondom 2km/l beter gekry na die airbox mod!
Onthou, dit help nie jy kry meer lug wat in die enjin ingaan nie, dit moet ook weer maklik kan uitgaan.
Vir 'n begin haal net die silencer uit en vervang met 'n freeflow box, die standaard pyp is darem redelik grrot - soveel so dat as jy 'n Kz vat vir 'n chip, dan sit hulle nie 'n freeflow op nie. Sou jy dieselfde met bv. 'n Colt of 280 Isuzu doen, sit hulle eers 'n freeflow op.
Tweedens, skeur daar baffle/restrictor in die airbox uit. Dis nou daar waar die pyp in die airbox inkom, soos op Pieter se foto hierbo. Groot Waterpomp tang, bliksker en groot skroewedraaier is wat vir my gewerk het.
Hou ons asb op hoogte!
Ek het so 2 jaar gelede 'n dikker pp en freeflow silencer ingesit en dit het so klein verskilletjie gemaak. MAAR die trok trek ook beter.
Op 'n geheel sal ek se so rondom 0.2-0.5km/l beter.
Volgens Pieter het hy rondom 2km/l beter gekry na die airbox mod!
Onthou, dit help nie jy kry meer lug wat in die enjin ingaan nie, dit moet ook weer maklik kan uitgaan.
Vir 'n begin haal net die silencer uit en vervang met 'n freeflow box, die standaard pyp is darem redelik grrot - soveel so dat as jy 'n Kz vat vir 'n chip, dan sit hulle nie 'n freeflow op nie. Sou jy dieselfde met bv. 'n Colt of 280 Isuzu doen, sit hulle eers 'n freeflow op.
Tweedens, skeur daar baffle/restrictor in die airbox uit. Dis nou daar waar die pyp in die airbox inkom, soos op Pieter se foto hierbo. Groot Waterpomp tang, bliksker en groot skroewedraaier is wat vir my gewerk het.
Hou ons asb op hoogte!
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More Hannes
Die free flow werk definitief - ek het die free flow en die lugfilter mod saam gedoen en toe die verskil gekry. Baie belangrike stelling hierbo - dit help nie jy kry 'n klomp lug in en dit kannie uit nie...
Die free flow werk definitief - ek het die free flow en die lugfilter mod saam gedoen en toe die verskil gekry. Baie belangrike stelling hierbo - dit help nie jy kry 'n klomp lug in en dit kannie uit nie...
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Very interesting, I modified my exhaust; after fitting two side by side fuel tanks, I had little space for the exhaust, so I routed a 63mm pipe out the driver side and ran it under the step, it exits just before the rear wheel with one small freeflow box, the difference in power and acceleration was huge, and like Pieter said, the turbo starts spooling much sooner, now for that air cleaner mod, my grinder was begging for work!
I can't comment on fuel consumption, 'cause everytime I do a mod, i compensate by tweeking the pump a little.
I can't comment on fuel consumption, 'cause everytime I do a mod, i compensate by tweeking the pump a little.
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Allan I'm very interested in fitting an extra fuel tank, did you fit another standard tank on the opposite side from the existing one?, and then just re route the exhaust pipe ?
I will be home in a weeks time , will need to come see what you did and do the same.
I will be home in a weeks time , will need to come see what you did and do the same.
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Yes, i used the same tank on the other side, it has a balance pipe in between, they fill and empty together.
The only problem is the exhaust routing
The only problem is the exhaust routing
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Dankie, ek sal jul laatweet wat ek regkry want hierdie is op die V6 land cruiser, my 2.7 Hilux het ek aircleaner en net free flow box gedoen en daar was 'n verskil op engin krag en die flatspot was baie min amper weg
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Nou jeuk my agterent ook. As julle maar net weet hoeveel werk ek aan die huis het
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Hoppy wrote:Yes, i used the same tank on the other side, it has a balance pipe in between, they fill and empty together.
The only problem is the exhaust routing
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Sal dit die moeite werd wees om 'n SFA se battery en lugfilter om te ruil en dan die filter bietjie aan te pas sodat daar 'n kortpad is na die EFI?
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Ek het al die exhaust laat skuif, maar nog nie 'n tenk ingesit nie...Hoppy wrote:Yes, i used the same tank on the other side, it has a balance pipe in between, they fill and empty together.
The only problem is the exhaust routing
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Ok then,
Ek het daai baffle uit die airbox geskeur maar het nie regtig 'n verbetering in brandstof verbruik gesien nie, MAAR die trok trek nou heelwat beter, veral bo 2000rpm.
Ek is seker as ek 'n snorkel opsit en maak soos Pieter sal daar 'n verskil wees.
Verder glo ek as jy sleep, 4e rat 2500rpm+ BEHOORT jy beter brandstof verbruik te kry - my redenasie is dat teen die hoer toere jou enjin meer lug nodig het, wat dan beskikbaar gaan wees en ook behoort die EGT's nie so hoog te klim nie.
MAAR dis net my opinionated redenasie - always open for correction of weteskaplike bewyse!
Ek het daai baffle uit die airbox geskeur maar het nie regtig 'n verbetering in brandstof verbruik gesien nie, MAAR die trok trek nou heelwat beter, veral bo 2000rpm.
Ek is seker as ek 'n snorkel opsit en maak soos Pieter sal daar 'n verskil wees.
Verder glo ek as jy sleep, 4e rat 2500rpm+ BEHOORT jy beter brandstof verbruik te kry - my redenasie is dat teen die hoer toere jou enjin meer lug nodig het, wat dan beskikbaar gaan wees en ook behoort die EGT's nie so hoog te klim nie.
MAAR dis net my opinionated redenasie - always open for correction of weteskaplike bewyse!
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