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finally getting a motor and box shipped , so here goes all or nothing , but im sure it will turn out magic.
i think the exhaust note will be one for the record books.

Welcome Mark

mark watson wrote: finally getting a motor and box shipped , so here goes all or nothing , but im sure it will turn out magic.
i think the exhaust note will be one for the record books.

WeLcOmE

What motor is this you are planning to install?

thanks guys , have been registered for a while but then piet petoors got me going to start posting on the forum . the motor is out of the toyota celsior limousine in japan - 5l v12 dual throttle bodies , vvt , variable intake , dual intake manifolds ( so can run on 1 bank of 6 cyl ) 4 valve per cyl , chain drive camshafts ( no timing belt ) wasted spark ignition , so should make for an interesting build. done enough 1uz conversions and getting bored . nice thing about the v12 it is a 60 degree block so its 70mm narrower than the 1 uz but the length is the same as the 1/2jz

Thats gona be a interesting built,keep us up to date with your progress when you begin.!

5L, V12

That motor is more than ½ way to an aircraft engine! ..... you wanna fly over obstacles? Eish!

Most importantly, KW and NM?

probably in the region of 175 - 190kw , 360 - 390nm on the wheels , but its more for the looks and exhaust note , but the nice thing is 90% of the torque is available from 1300-1500rpm , should be a stump puller

This is what wiki says.Mark this is going to be an awesome build

The 1GZ-FE is a 5.0 L (4996 cc) V12 48-valve DOHC engine with variable valve timing (VVT-i). Bore is 81 mm and stroke is 80.8 mm, with a compression ratio of 10.5:1. Official output as per Japanese Manufacturers' Agreement is 206 kW (276 hp) at 5200 rpm although true power output is estimated to be around 230 kW (310 hp). Peak torque of 481 N·m (355 ft·lbf) is at 4000 rpm with over 400 N·m (300 ft·lbf) available from as little as 1200 rpm. The fuel injection system is controlled by two ECUs, one for each bank of cylinders. The engine is capable of running on a single bank of 6 cylinders should a malfunction occur.[1]

george wrote:This is what wiki says.Mark this is going to be an awesome build

The 1GZ-FE is a 5.0 L (4996 cc) V12 48-valve DOHC engine with variable valve timing (VVT-i). Bore is 81 mm and stroke is 80.8 mm, with a compression ratio of 10.5:1. Official output as per Japanese Manufacturers' Agreement is 206 kW (276 hp) at 5200 rpm although true power output is estimated to be around 230 kW (310 hp). Peak torque of 481 N·m (355 ft·lbf) is at 4000 rpm with over 400 N·m (300 ft·lbf) available from as little as 1200 rpm. The fuel injection system is controlled by two ECUs, one for each bank of cylinders. The engine is capable of running on a single bank of 6 cylinders should a malfunction occur.[1]

I suppose the price of fuel will count as a malfunction then.

Please could you do some youtube videos once it's in so we can all hear the Lambo SFA.

This is great!
Thinking out the box, I like.
What does this beast weigh?

the weight is in the same region as the 1fz fe that is coming out so no problems there.

Mark... sounds awesome.... funny how alot of Marks' I know are busy with or have serious offroad projects!

You going to have to re-inforce the rest of the rig to handle that power! Fun fun and more fun!

Can't wait to see your progress. Would love to hear it

Welcome to the Mark club as well This should be very interesting, are you keeping the OEM management system?

no not keeping the management , busy sorting out with piet at spitronics , will have something sorted by the time the motor lands , got to stay ahead as we are agents for spitronics.

How are you going to get the vvt and all the sensors to run properly with the spitronics?

spoke to piet and already doing the vvt etc on the vvt motors so the v12 should not be a problem. and the sensors are straight forward , luckily i have industrial instrumentation as my background so piet and myself talk the same language.

welcome

will be following this projec

would like to hear the exhaust note

My boet has a Toyota V12 in his garage, what a machine but he is going to build a spitfire not going into a bakkie or car.

jaco doesnt he want to swop for a bmw v12 with the spitronics system already fitted. pretty please

Interestingly enough (for those that don't know), BMW (Bayerische Motoren Werke or Bavarian Motor Works) was originally an aircraft engine manufacturer. Hence their emblem which is supposed to signify a spinning propeller.

Mud Dog wrote: That motor is more than ½ way to an aircraft engine! ..... you wanna fly over obstacles? Eish!

Im sure that is his intention hahahaha

hope to see the build

well the guys are saying we are going to fly , so , woopee i get the motor tommorow , so here we go

mark watson wrote:jaco doesnt he want to swop for a bmw v12 with the spitronics system already fitted. pretty please

Nope, we dont do BMW or spitronics.

no sweat , got the motor , and guess what its getting a spitronics system , busy with the stripdown so we can begin the transplant

damnnnnnn son

now that's a beauty

Are you rebuilding the engine or are you putting it straight in and how are you mating it to the gearbox? I am looking for a 80 series and I might do the same thing, I want to first see how yours runs with the spitronics otherwise I will try and get it in with the OEM ecu.

gunta , the motor is perfect , oil filter housing is broken but no problem will fit remote filter , and the sump is cracked but will make a custom sump to fit the cruiser - 4wd. so no need for strip downjust the usual paint and powdercoat. will post pics next week when the motor is together. still have to make an adaptor and flywheel ( inhouse ) but no problems there. the cruisers we have done plenty we are on the lc club , 60,62,80 you name it 1uz,3uz, done them all , but have done nissans,hyundais,hiluxes (all types , even drive one ) navaras,pathfinders,sprinters,bmw,colts,pajeros, even 1947 willys overland , the next project personally is a twin turbo 1uz in the wifes e220 mercedes.

Where are you based Mark, I would like to come and visit you sometime and see what you are doing and get some ideas.

i am out in the bos as the people say , not far in springs

I see you are a springer, I used to have my factory in Brakpan so Unfortunately I know the area well. Most people there are related

mark watson wrote:...the next project personally is a twin turbo 1uz in the wifes e220 mercedes.

That's just crazy... absolutely freakin crazy!

well got a coat of paint on and some powdercoating , starting to look the bees knees.




cruiser is coming in on wednesday so the stripdown will begin , hoping to try have running for santa

What a beauty....!!!!

Looking very spiffy!

Just don't surprise us and fit the VW boxer in the background!

well got a coat of paint on and some powdercoating , starting to look the bees knees.

P.S.

Mr B's knees are not that clean!

That is looking good

andy , i think the boxer might be to much for the cruiser to handle

They were ... correction, still are, fantastic little motors.

just some more pics before the motor goes in , just tying up all the prewiring.

now this is what should be in a cruiser

I would also like to see how well its going to be on fuel.

Looks great, i see you've got the starter motor on the other engine stand.

mark it should be quite good on juice as you wont have your foot planted to do 120 , there is enough torque to cruise very easily. allan the starter is actually going to be a lexus 1uz starter as the original is missing.

Are you running two spitronic boxes for the 12 coils or are they building a special box for the motor?
I hope it's a pre VVTi motor or you'll need another one for that.

allan , yip peet busy with it but i only need 6 coils as its running wasted spark with the same setup as a 1jz vvt motor ( 3 coils and 3 leads ) , i will run the injectors in pairs so it should give me a nice smooth power delivery and consumption should be good. so i only need 6 inj outputs and 6 coil ouputs but will have to run a second box as it is fitted with vvt on both inlet cams.

Hi Mark
Any progress?

yip there is progress , motor in with new flywheel and adaptor , mountings done , busy with pipe work and sump will get on the lift next week probably and start with exhaust , just took quite a while to get all the efi wiring out and separated as its all going into a 62 lc , complete with obd plug and all.

U have space for THESE?

been a long time since posting but will post some pics , just the sump to finish , all wiring done , then we swing to life , then a couple of hours on the dyno.

Cant wait to see this. How would the 12 compare with the 3 UZ in fuel consuption? might be an idea to put that in my cruiser if we can get one.

the 12 i will expect to be about the same maybe a little bit more at the end of the day as a 3uz , as with more torque you can change gears at 1500rpm and it will still pull like a train , but as ive said before it depends on how its going to be driven. i am still trying to get more but proving difficult unless i buy the whole flippin limo , then do a front cut and send it over but it is going to be pricey.

so wanne kan ons hoor hoe hy klink?
Ek is al mal nuuskierig!

mark

interesting project.
Please keep us updated!

going on the dyno sat , man this zorst note is something different.

Will be interesting to see how it go's.