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mushroom · Post by **mushroom** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:11 pm

Hi Guys, Christmas came early and my 93 hliux 2.2lt SFA was delivered today. Got 270 k clicks on the clock and the body work is in, what I think, good nick. Not being mechanically minded at all I was wondering if the experienced out there can give me some help. I am thinking of dropping a new 2.2 korean motor into this thing - anyone agree/disagree and why?
I would also like to know what things I should be checking/changing/replacing etc before I head into the hinterland??

Any help would be greatly appreciated - cant wait to get going
Cheers

Post by **0000DS** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:19 pm

Hi James,
Welcome to the forum..... sure you will get a lot of info here from everybody.

Please, please put pichaaz

Post by **CasKru** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:25 pm

Welcome James. Hope you enjoy the forum and your Hilux equally as much

Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:37 pm

Welcome, you will find a lot of usefull info on this Forum.

I do not use the Chinese/Korean motors annymore because of reliabillity issues mainly caused by the use off poor quality materials.These motors usually outlast there guarantee (20 000 km), but don't expect much more.

For roughly the same amount you can rebuild your own motor using good quality parts, preferbly resleeve it back to STD.

Balancing, a Brospeed cam and a mild flow job is a good idea and shouldn't add more than 2.5K to the price, but a good 15KW extra.

There is a lot of info on EFI systems on the Forum, but that can be added later.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:44 pm

Hi James and welcome! Caution! This site is very addictive

Dadz Toy BFI · Post by **Dadz Toy BFI** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:33 pm

James the Korean Motors have moved on considerably since the early day when Poor Quality Chinese Motors flooded RSA. These days they are doing 150,000kms plus in the mini bus taxis, go for it dude at R5.8K for a new 4YP you've got nothing to loose (just don't forget to retorque the head :!: :!: )

Otherwise Welcome Dude, enjoy your stay :!:

EFi is an awesome thing to do to a 4Y

BUT................

the best mod for your vehicle is.........

New Seats :!: :!:

Why...........cos:

The old ones are soft yet bulky so in the back it's bollie........

You could say "With SFA seats it's bollie in the bak......

Cos there isn't Mushroom"

wacky · Post by **wacky** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:39 pm

welcome to the forum( hilux encyclopedia ) & please post pictures.

very addittive site

zepplin · Post by **zepplin** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:01 pm

James,

First drive it around locally for a while & determine if the original 4y is tired or not. Check for blue smoke under acceleration & also after running againsed compression. You might just get away with replacing valve stem seals. These motors tend to use a bit of oil so check the useage & take it from there.
Enjoy it.

Bloues · Post by **Bloues** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:27 pm

Welkom James - Hilux manne rule.....o'ja en manninne ook...ander skiet die vroue my weer. !!!

Ons is baie in die deel van die land, vra gerus hulp - ons Hilux familie help graag !!!!!!

Sifu-Lux · Post by **Sifu-Lux** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:06 pm

Welcome James, and remember the #1 forum rule PEEKCHAZ

All the help you need is right here!!

legend35 · Post by **legend35** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:13 pm

A warm welkom James.As long as you can start it ,drive it.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:27 am

Hi James, and welcome.

The 4y motor is not a high revving power plant, but has plenty low-end grunt due to it's longer stroke. It's so designed for better off-road ability and reliability. So at 270k on the clock, yours will undoubtedly be a little tired, but depending on how well it's been cared for, may not yet be desperate for overhauling. Drive it for a while and attend an outing with the guys in your area where you will be able to do a comparative assessment. Personally, I would prefer to re-build the old motor with genuine parts, but that's just me. Many of the guys are happy with their Korean transplants.

Enjoy the forum!

mushroom · Post by **mushroom** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:39 am

Guys...thanks for such a warm welcome. This forum rocks!!!. Drove the growler to work today, got a slight tapping noise coming from what I think are the tappets. Other than that its almost as good as sex - gotta call the machine the "missus" - always lekka to play with on the side ! Apparently a good oil change should sort out the tappet knocking - is this true? or does one need to open up and fix?

Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:20 am

A good flush/oil change should do it.
The hydraulic lifters are inexpensive and can be swopped without removing the cylinder head.

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:38 am

I'm not a qualified mech, just a backyard tinkerer... i managed to replace the hydraulic lifters myself, total cost was less than R 400.00 including parts and labour... I didn't charge myself labour... just bought some beer to say thank you!

you will need a magnetic tool with a 500mm arm...

mr b

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:03 pm

tinkerer

'tinkerbell' Hmmmm....hope you were not wearing your wetsuit

Evert Deyzel · Post by **Evert Deyzel** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:56 pm

Dadz Toy BFI wrote:go for it dude at R5.8K for a new 4YP you've got nothing to loose (just don't forget to retorque the head :!: :!: )

Rich

I havent retorqued mine yet and it is standing on 13 200Km.
What do i need to do?
Apparently the the 4YP from commercial have stretch bolts, and i remember something about that you cant use the same bolts twice... What do you think?

I am a bit worried and awaiting your answer eagerly.

Thank you
Evert

Dadz Toy BFI · Post by **Dadz Toy BFI** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:10 pm

Evert Deyzel wrote:
Dadz Toy BFI wrote:go for it dude at R5.8K for a new 4YP you've got nothing to loose (just don't forget to retorque the head :!: :!: )
Rich

I havent retorqued mine yet and it is standing on 13 200Km.
What do i need to do?
Apparently the the 4YP from commercial have stretch bolts, and i remember something about that you cant use the same bolts twice... What do you think?

I am a bit worried and awaiting your answer eagerly.

Thank you
Evert

Eeeish dude I was told that mine were stretch bolts and they're clearly not.

Suggest you borrow a torque wrench quick quick, whip off the carb and tighten them all up to 88NM in the specified order!

Do you have the order???

It's posted here somewhere, t'other wise I can take a peekcha from the manual if you need pal

Evert Deyzel · Post by **Evert Deyzel** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:29 pm

But what if they are stretch bolts and there is nothing wrong with them?
Wont i stuff them up if a loosen them up and retorque to 88nm?
Peectja would be nice.
Thanks a million

Evert

Dadz Toy BFI · Post by **Dadz Toy BFI** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:54 pm

Evert Deyzel wrote:But what if they are stretch bolts and there is nothing wrong with them?
Wont i stuff them up if a loosen them up and retorque to 88nm?
Peectja would be nice.
Thanks a million

Evert

Evert some of mine were only "finger tight", no way would a stretch bolt have got loose like that.

Believe me you'll not do any harm cos if the Torque wrench clicks maximum then you know they are tight, if they're loose then you'll get them to 88NM... stretch bolts or not

It's a quick quick job pal, especially for the Carb boys

Ps.. the sequence is on here somewhere...

Oom Eric can you help asblf

Post by **Family_Dog** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:52 pm

Only a pleasure Mein heer... the scan is available here:
viewtopic.php?f=67&t=8896

-F_D

mushroom · Post by **mushroom** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:04 am

Finally the peechas are here....first on the day I took delivery and the second after I have had some work done on the mbongolo...more work to be done

Dadz Toy BFI · Post by **Dadz Toy BFI** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:17 pm

Congrats James, she's very clean

Ps. she's not a Raider, just a regular Local Spec Hilux 2.2

mushroom · Post by **mushroom** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:23 pm

Thanks Rich - will change that on my profile - got the pic order mixed up too. Who would take a decent alu cab off like that. Design courtesy of Pietpoors, fabrication done by the local engineering works at a price that makes alucab and the lads look silly (R 7,5k !!)

Dadz Toy BFI · Post by **Dadz Toy BFI** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:27 pm

mushroom wrote:Thanks Rich - will change that on my profile - got the pic order mixed up too. Who would take a decent alu cab off like that. Design courtesy of Pietpoors, fabrication done by the local engineering works at a price that makes alucab and the lads look silly (R 7,5k !!)

Pleasure

Ps.. Check the Vin number plate (first two numbers are the year of registration), it may be earlier than '93

Farmflyer · Post by **Farmflyer** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:23 am

Hey Jamo

She looks really good man! Congrats. So much fun to be had. When you gonna put it to the test in the mountains of Mpumalanga?

mushroom · Post by **mushroom** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:59 pm

Hey Tony,

I've heard those mountains are scary. I ripped the mbongolo a new ringpiece off Robert Broom a while back. I know what she can and cant (very little) do, so now its overlanding time. Added the jerry holders, 60lt water tank and hi lift jack on the weekend. Will need to update the pics. Funny thing is the more you add to the cab - the slower she becomes....time to look at the EFI or something

chopper · Post by **chopper** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:47 pm

Really impressed with the alu cab!
Is the design readily available and can I access your local engineering works?
Thanx

mushroom · Post by **mushroom** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:16 pm

The design came off the members articles section on this website (check the top menu on the home page) - it was designed by piet (pietpoors) who is on the admin board etc... The engineering works is in Randfontein - a bloke by the name of Koos. I can give you his number if you need it - just pm me

Thanks again Piet

chopper · Post by **chopper** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:21 pm

James,
Thank you, I also followed the particular thread - did you consolidate all the available ideas & concepts into a single design/spec yourself or did Piet provide you and/or the engineers with the "ideal" concept?
I PM'd you

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