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Dadz Toy BFI wrote:Reason I ask is that a 4Y doesn't rev lekker nê.
In hind site I would have Efi'd a 3Y as the bores are all the same on the Y Series Engines it's just the stroke that's longest on the 4Y but you pay for it big time in the higher rev range.![]()
It is not for the Spartan he is 10000% OK, and I did say there is method in the madness, but I can't let the cat out of the bag yet 8 )RustyRod wrote:Spartan is that really u or an imposter?
EFI'ing a 4Y... what a ridiculous thought... never...
Spartan is that really u or an imposter?
EFI'ing a 4Y... what a ridiculous thought... never...
ja well no fine... I don't help people with more than 1 bakkie... I'm too jealous!Spartan wrote:I have more than two bakkies
Doesn't sound very potent young man :wth:RustyRod wrote: I heard there's a new hybrid box called the 'MicroDick'... sounds interesting...![]()
It wont be a original, I like the aftermarket stuff, gives you control.RustyRod wrote:What EMU are you going to use?
Ek sal nie my lang 6 ruil vir n V6 nie, klink of jy kan brandewyn en coke drinkRustyRod wrote:Big D... there's a better option than the 2JZ... fit the toy 3VZ-FE v6... it's simply an easier fit... more than powerful enough at 150kw with the standard ecu... if need be you can fit a piggyback system to fine tune it! This is my future plan... read more here:
If I can put on my best Pink accent I'll reply for him:Evert Deyzel wrote:Bretton
1. Is the 3vz-fe a 3.0 liter or 3.4liter?
2. In what vechile was it origanaly used?
3. What was the v6 motor that was standard in the usa hilux called?
4. What do you need for the conversion?
5. R10500 for a new or secondhand or "korean duplicate" ?
Thank you
Evert
Bou hom dan sal ons kom kyk in watter rat spin hy die besteRustyRod wrote:Re: To EFI a 4Y
Jaco I like all 3 motors, 7MGE, 2JZ and 3VZ-FE... but personally I like the V6 the most... and just for the record... Toyota actually detunes this engine electronically because they landed up making an engine that is more powerful than the 7MGE... the sportscar engine of choice in it's day! Using a piggyback system you can 'restore' this engine to full performance...
A quote from wikipedia:
The 1992-1993 engine has 185 hp (138 kW) at 5800 rpm and 189 ft·lbf (256 N·m) at 4600 rpm. 1994+ have 200 hp (149 kW) at 5800 rpm and 204 ft·lbf (277 N·m) at 4600 rpm. There is no mechanical difference in the engine. In an embarrassing move, Toyota inadvertently created an engine competing with the more performance oriented 7M-GE (200 hp) and 2JZ-GE (225 hp) installed in sportier, more luxurious cars of the time. Because of this; the stock ignition timing and fueling was noticibly detuned. The power spread of the 3VZ-FE is wide, having 100% torque between 2500–4600 rpm, with power trailing off by 6000 rpm. Stock redline is 6600 rpm, and the ECU's fuel/ignition cut is 7200 rpm.
Some nitrous/turbo versions make 336kw.
Sounds lekker... just got to save up!
Evert Deyzel wrote: Correct me if im wrong:
1. I remember reading on the forum that the 3VZ-FE is prone to HG failure - Yes you did![]()
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(not the 5VZ)
Thank you
Evert
Evert Deyzel wrote:Bretton
Correct me if im wrong:
1. I remember reading on the forum that the 3VZ-FE is prone to HG failure, is this true or was it the 5FZ-FE?
Then just a few questions:
2. Do both the 3VZ-FE and 5VZ-VE fit on the "4Y bellhousing"?
No, on further investigation I found out a custom bellhousing has to made, as well as clutch assembly, costs about R3500
3. What do you guys think is the chance you could get such a motor with the origanal Toyota management?
Very good, the engine imports I spoke to said the engine comes with management ecu... if you want to tweak it, it is possible to fit a piggyback system, of which I have zilch knowledge...
4. Did they use both the motors in the Hilux?
Yes overseas the 3VZ was used in the 4Runner and Surf... basically Hilux's... the 5VZ has approven itself in the local Prado to be an excellent motor...
5. What do you think or know one would need to change/replace/modify (e.g radiator,bellhousing,enginemounts etc.) if one should do this conversion, and what would the reliability be?
Reliability is difficult to gauge, depends on how well the installation is done and condition of the import engine... radiator, bellhousing, engine mounts all change... just like a 7MGE or Lexus, and almost any other conversion on a SFA..
6. What would the estimated cost of such a conversion be if one do all the work self?
Guys like Hoppy will know this answer, I would estimate R 25000+ a bit ... motor 10K, bellhousing & clutch 3.5K, engine mounts 1K, radiator & fan 2.5K, exhaust system 2K... and bucket loads of patience and persaverance!
7. Expected fuel consumpsion?
It's all relative... about 6-7 km/l in town and 7.5-8 on the open road, depending on driving style... 3.5 km/l offroad at worst
8. Could one fit a ICV to the setup or does it already have one or is it impossible?
This i don't know, if nit is not std, then you would probably need a aftermarket ECU to control it!
Sorry for all the questions but i am really interested in this topic.
Your or anybodys comments would be appreciated...
Thank you
Evert
I don't agree, the 2JZ is sorted and prooven :Geek:RustyRod wrote:Big D... there's a better option than the 2JZ... fit the toy 3VZ-FE v6... it's simply an easier fit...
Horses for causes, Tot jy n JZ gery het my oom dan praat ons weerMud Dog wrote:A more practical conversion overall than the 6 cyl. JZ's and MG's, I think.