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Morning all!
I am moving from Centurion to George at the end of 2014.
Everything is arranged for the move and in action.

Now my question is this.
I would like to tow SWAMBO's Jimny on a car trailer down to George.
Am I mal in thinking I can do this?

I am not too keen on the moving company taking the Jimny to George.

Any advice, suggestions.

I drive a D4-D 3.0
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Why not opt for an A-frame configuration. Less weight and less wind resistance.
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CasKru wrote:Why not opt for an A-frame configuration. Less weight and less wind resistance.
Julle praat nou met n baie NON-Technical ou hier.
Breek n arm, of kry n hartaanval en ek is op my beste.
Technical goed moet ek nog borsvoed Cassie
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I have just had to recover my ford from Beaufort West after blowing a clutch while on holiday
The cheapest way to get the vehicle back to JHB after clutch was replaced was car transport company cost was approx. R2500.00
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Umpalumpa wrote:
Now my question is this.
I would like to tow SWAMBO's Jimny on a car trailer down to George.
Am I mal in thinking I can do this?

I am not too keen on the moving company taking the Jimny to George.

Any advice, suggestions.

I drive a D4-D 3.0
If it's a decent car trailer, then it shouldn't be a problem, we trailer the rally car all over the country (Durbs, PE, CPT, etc) to the events.

D4-D will handle okay, only you'll drive at around 100-110kmh. Just make sure that the load (Jimny) balance is slightly to the front of the trailer onto the tow hitch. If it's to the rear of the trailer you'll get trailer sway which is VERY Dangerous.

The transporter companies are also a good option, then you don't have to stress about the trailer, speed, etc.
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I have in the past shipped car between JHB and Slaap Stad with the train, cost was a lot cheaper than driving and in those days the petrol price was also a lot cheaper, in total i have shipped two cars and one bike with the trains and no problems to date.
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Dingo wrote:
Umpalumpa wrote:
Now my question is this.
I would like to tow SWAMBO's Jimny on a car trailer down to George.
Am I mal in thinking I can do this?

I am not too keen on the moving company taking the Jimny to George.

Any advice, suggestions.

I drive a D4-D 3.0
If it's a decent car trailer, then it shouldn't be a problem, we trailer the rally car all over the country (Durbs, PE, CPT, etc) to the events.

D4-D will handle okay, only you'll drive at around 100-110kmh. Just make sure that the load (Jimny) balance is slightly to the front of the trailer onto the tow hitch. If it's to the rear of the trailer you'll get trailer sway which is VERY Dangerous.

The transporter companies are also a good option, then you don't have to stress about the trailer, speed, etc.
I actually have been a medic for a few of the rally events. Seeing the rigs you guys tow.
I thought distance would be a problem, but obviously not.
Thanks for the advice thus far.
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Umpalumpa wrote:
CasKru wrote:Why not opt for an A-frame configuration. Less weight and less wind resistance.
Julle praat nou met n baie NON-Technical ou hier.
Breek n arm, of kry n hartaanval en ek is op my beste.
Technical goed moet ek nog borsvoed Cassie
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Shipping by rail is going to be the cheapest option, but there is a risk involved IRO damage as a result of improper handling and theft (car audio etc.). The risk is small as this doesn't happen too often, but you may just be the unlucky one.

A-frame is a good option if you're going to tow it yourself, provided that the bakkie itself is not too heavily loaded (braking ability) .... the same brake issue holds true with a trailer unless it's a trailer with a braked axle, which may indeed be the safest option since it's almost certain that the bakkie will also be fairly heavily loaded. Such trailers can be hired. The D4D 3.0 has enough guts for towing, but you're not going to be speeding anyway.
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CasKru wrote:
Umpalumpa wrote:
CasKru wrote:Why not opt for an A-frame configuration. Less weight and less wind resistance.
Julle praat nou met n baie NON-Technical ou hier.
Breek n arm, of kry n hartaanval en ek is op my beste.
Technical goed moet ek nog borsvoed Cassie
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Thanks Cas. Ek sal bietjie loer na waar ek so iets kan koop en hoe om dit te configure.....
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Mud Dog wrote:Shipping by rail is going to be the cheapest option, but there is a risk involved IRO damage as a result of improper handling and theft (car audio etc.). The risk is small as this doesn't happen too often, but you may just be the unlucky one.

A-frame is a good option if you're going to tow it yourself, provided that the bakkie itself is not too heavily loaded (braking ability) .... the same brake issue holds true with a trailer unless it's a trailer with a braked axle, which may indeed be the safest option since it's almost certain that the bakkie will also be fairly heavily loaded. Such trailers can be hired. The D4D 3.0 has enough guts for towing, but you're not going to be speeding anyway.
Call me paranoid, but I would rather do the work myself.
I know the rail system is not what it used to be. Which in itself is a pity.
I will look at the AFrame suggestion, but if that becomes to technical, I will opt for a brakeing trailer.
Not a person that exceeds speed limits anyway, so it should be ok.
Besides, I use 2SO........ :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :surrender: :surrender:
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CasKru wrote:Why not opt for an A-frame configuration. Less weight and less wind resistance.
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stumps wrote:
CasKru wrote:Why not opt for an A-frame configuration. Less weight and less wind resistance.
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Apparently you cannot tow the Jimny like that.
You need to disable or remove the propshaft or someting to that effect....

http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/sho ... mny+towing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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AS long as the gearbox is in neutral there shouldn't be a problem.

Come to think of it, you then still have to do the lights and everything so a trailer might be the quicker option.
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CasKru wrote:AS long as the gearbox is in neutral there shouldn't be a problem.

Come to think of it, you then still have to do the lights and everything so a trailer might be the quicker option.
Very true.
Thanks Cassie.
Will be cheaper as well, since the truck companies ask R5000 for the move.
Oh well, either way, you would have to pay
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You may have problem with trailer rental companies as the one way trips cause problems as how do they get there trailer back.Just something to think about.
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Scott wrote:You may have problem with trailer rental companies as the one way trips cause problems as how do they get there trailer back.Just something to think about.
Thanks. Got one that offers one way hire and they have a depot in George.
Now I have to book it 2 months in advance as it is very popular.
R2600 for 3 days hire.....
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Umpalumpa wrote:
stumps wrote:
CasKru wrote:Why not opt for an A-frame configuration. Less weight and less wind resistance.
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Apparently you cannot tow the Jimny like that.
You need to disable or remove the propshaft or someting to that effect....

http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/sho ... mny+towing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
some funcky story of the lubrication in the transfer box that does not work properly of it is towed ....

DRIVE it :)

or put it on a trailer.
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Select neutral on both the gearbox and transfer boxes and tie the lever of the transfer box to avoid it moving into gear and the jimny can be towed without any problems.
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Daai sleepwa combo klink ok-erig. Die one-way rental is 'n groot bonus!

A-frame sou my eerste keuse wees. Met die sleepwa mag jy dalk oorlaai wees volgens die Vigo se tow ratings. Met 'n Aframe loop hy op sy eie wiele dus is daar nie so probleem nie - grys area in die wet.

Die sleep en propshaft storie is net dit - 'n lang storie! Ek het 'n klient in Lyttleton wat sy Jimny agter sy camper aansleep en hy gaan verseker NIE die propshaft afhaal met elke trippie nie!
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Thabogrobler wrote:Daai sleepwa combo klink ok-erig. Die one-way rental is 'n groot bonus!

A-frame sou my eerste keuse wees. Met die sleepwa mag jy dalk oorlaai wees volgens die Vigo se tow ratings. Met 'n Aframe loop hy op sy eie wiele dus is daar nie so probleem nie - grys area in die wet.

Die sleep en propshaft storie is net dit - 'n lang storie! Ek het 'n klient in Lyttleton wat sy Jimny agter sy camper aansleep en hy gaan verseker NIE die propshaft afhaal met elke trippie nie!
Dis juis daaroor dat ek van brieke gepraat het, hoe swaarder jou vrag (of trailer sonder eie brieke) hoe meer dramaties word die briek afstand verleng.
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Welkom in George Jac! Kom loer in hier in Mbaai as jy hier is. Dis lekker hier agter die druiwe gordyn....
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Mud Dog wrote:
Thabogrobler wrote:Daai sleepwa combo klink ok-erig. Die one-way rental is 'n groot bonus!

A-frame sou my eerste keuse wees. Met die sleepwa mag jy dalk oorlaai wees volgens die Vigo se tow ratings. Met 'n Aframe loop hy op sy eie wiele dus is daar nie so probleem nie - grys area in die wet.

Die sleep en propshaft storie is net dit - 'n lang storie! Ek het 'n klient in Lyttleton wat sy Jimny agter sy camper aansleep en hy gaan verseker NIE die propshaft afhaal met elke trippie nie!
Dis juis daaroor dat ek van brieke gepraat het, hoe swaarder jou vrag (of trailer sonder eie brieke) hoe meer dramaties word die briek afstand verleng.
Dis baie waar, ek gaan maar die trailer mission doen. Gaan vroeg ry, want ek weet spietkops is net oor lunch tyd wakker en dan ook net vir n paar minute.
Ek weet Umpalumpa sal die trailer kan trek sonder issues, maar soos Thabo se, dis die wet..... Tjo-tjo sal reg wees..... :surrender: :surrender: :surrender:
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pietdevs wrote:Welkom in George Jac! Kom loer in hier in Mbaai as jy hier is. Dis lekker hier agter die druiwe gordyn....
Baie dankie. Julle sal maar moet wys waar is die beste plekke vir lekker ry.
Hoop net ek maak dit deur die druiwe gordyn en steek nie dalk vas daar nie....
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Waneer is die GROOT TREK??
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Ongelukkig het daai ene deur die mat geval. Werk in Denmark nou, so gaan so rukkie vas byt tot ander oppertunity pop. Intussen gaan ons gereeld vakansie hou daar.
Gaan verseker nog daar aftree eendag.
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