Another Scam?? or am I just misinformed of how E-bay works

[kfxnando]

well, seeing that I have had a major tummy bug since tuesday night, and have so much Data, I started uploading videos of the tenant that we evicted last year, as she still owes us money, and went digging on Junkmail, and rev up the wife, as she said we are not spending money!!!

so I found this
http://www.junkmail.co.za/motoring/cara ... h-25436473" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

so, it looks good, and even if we dont buy, though enough to keep the wife reved!!! "Brave"
and one never knows what can be found out there!!

so I sent the following message

good evening am interested in the motor home, where in JHB are you, we are in Germiston

a while later, got this back

Thank you for your interest. The price is R25,000. This is the final price and there will be no additional charges. The motorhome looks and runs great. First of all I am selling the motorhome so cheap because I am in United Kingdom with my new job and I just finished a divorce. I will stay here for 3 years so this is the reason why I want to sell the motorhome. I am a VerifiedTrader so the transaction will be done through eBay so we can both be protected. If you're ready for this purchase, I need to know your full name and address for delivery because as soon as I have them I will start the official procedure and eBay will notify you about this. eBay will send you an Invoice with all the info you need to complete the transaction. Also a 10 days refund policy will be included so if you will not like the motorhome or if something will be wrong you will receive your money back in the same day without any charges from your side. Thanks

so had a look at how e-bay works, and how paypall works, there is some level of protection, however by now the wife is hitting limiter!!
so why not send a reply!!

thanx for the reply
have not yet worked with e-bay
however, where can the vehicle be seen, as would like to see the vehicle before I can decide and bend the wife's arm

thanx, and look forward to your reply

and got the following reply!!

Hi there,

Sorry you cannot see the motorhome because I am not in the country but obviously we need a way to complete this deal that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after. A 10 days refund policy will be included so if you will not like the motorhome you will receive your money back. After you will complete the payment the motorhome will be delivered to your home address. Delivery time will be 2 days. It comes with insurance covered by me of course until you take the ownership, RWC, keys, clear title, valid road license, full revision and all the papers signed so you can easy transfer the motorhome on your name. All the costs will be paid by me. I don't have a outstanding amount on the motorhome at a bank or financial agency as I paid cash for it. I have two more persons interested in buying the motorhome so please send me your full name and address for delivery if you are ready to buy it. Thank you!

maybe me wrong, however this to me sounds fishy!!
if he is not in the country fine, however surely the vehicle must be in the country!!

even if the insurance works as he say, and have read about the paypal insurance and people recovering money
cant buy something with out seeing it!!
does not matter how good the pics look!! as I have no idea how old those pictures are!!

me think SCAM!!!!

[Mud Dog]

Certainly sounds suspicious. As you say, the vehicle is supposedly here, why not allow people to view it? Either it's because it doesn't exist or they don't want you to have any of their location details ... either way it sounds 'fishy'.

[Willem01]

Bly weg en vergeet...het dieselle bloutjie gehad met n Deetliffs caravan...waar die persoon ook glo nie in die land is nie ne dieselle storie van skeisake en en en en....so sit nou nog sonder die Caravan...en het nog my moolas..

[kfxnando]

Bly weg en vergeet...het dieselle bloutjie gehad met n Deetliffs caravan...waar die persoon ook glo nie in die land is nie ne dieselle storie van skeisake en en en en....so sit nou nog sonder die Caravan...en het nog my moolas..

Outch!! did you open a case?? and if you did what happened??

[Mud Dog]

If you look at that unit and it's condition along with all the equipment, there's no way in hell he's gonna flog it for that price. That unit is at least worth 80k. Then if the new tyres and recent service are true, that alone would have set him back 5k or more ..... He's only gonna clear 20k and he's gotta split it down the middle with his ex?? I don't think so. Also according to him, all the paperwork is in order with "valid road license" .... so why are there no number plates on the vehicle in the pics? Chances are that they've been removed so that the vehicle cannot be identified.

Walk away.

[kfxnando]

very good points, however, this is not the 1st time that we have seen cheap mobile homes in Junkmail
again if something seems to good to be true then it usually is

sad that when we think we can get bargains and save a few bobs by buying privately, in the long run with all the scams, it might work out cheaper/safer to pay the extra and buy from a dealer

[Jaws]

100% scam, never ever pay a single cent unless you have physically seen the goods when dealing with third parties on the Internet.

[Traveler]

I have been a constant e(Vil)Bay user for over 5 years. eBay does not send the invoice, it comes via Paypal, you only get the order data from eBay. You can actually transact outside of eBay with Paypal. My brother and I have sent money to each other using Paypal.

This is a rusty hook of a scam if I have ever seen one.

My view (and experience) is that when someone comes with a divorce story there is a scam involved.

[zepplin]

I had very similar correspondence a while ago regarding a Land Cruiser on offer for R40k. The guy's name was Edward Featherstone - he was working in the 'bush' and the car was in a locked garage in Cape Town. I realized the scam early on so just had a little fun with him.

I had him pleading with me after I told him that I was looking for ten vehicles to start a 4x4 rental company!

[Family_Dog]

It's a very well-known scam! Similar ads have been around for years, surprised it is still running, but then it must work for the scammers or else they would not still be using it.

Needless to say, simply walk away from it.


-F_D

[jacques kotze]

I read more than one of these exact same stories. All of them was a scam. This a scam, stay away, or play with him and ask stupid questions to waste his time.

[antlo69]

This guys have been operting for years now and always have dodgy tel no's. Always the same story with the same replies.

He is cleaver in the sence that they almost make it obvious for the cleaver person to notice its a scam, so they target the "Gullible".

Caravans, cars, bakkies and even cellphones are been advertised by this guys (this weekend he advertised a 2010 Fortuner for R80k with R40K accesories on it).

A while ago I reported this guy to Junkmail and they said that they are aware of him, I think they find it difficult to block him as he usses different login info on a daily basis, making him difficult to stop.

Very simple, no item, no cash. And like the other say, if its to good to be true, walk away.

Secondly, be carefull when you are advertising especially in Gauteng. You will find guys making a EFT and you even get a sms "notification". DON'T. I was almost a victim of these kind of purchases a while ago.

These guys are very clever and are always one step ahead and always have a answer for any question. Just walk away!!!!

[george]

Fernando play a bit with these guys.Maybe a risk but tell them you have cash and will courier the money to there address.You will prabaly get a address somewhere in Africa If it is in UK then you could get Interpol involve.

[Dodging]

Then send him a brick and make him pay postage

[kfxnando]

I read more than one of these exact same stories. All of them was a scam. This a scam, stay away, or play with him and ask stupid questions to waste his time.

Thinking of having some fun, will post here if I do

[Rafs]

Came across the same type of thing when I was looking for a Jeep...

Also the guy not in country, I cant view the car, 10 day money back guarentee... So I sent a few emails, he had a signature with a Namibian Contact (as he is now in Namibia), So I googled it and it turned out to be some foreign embassies number (the one in Namibia). I asked for Banking Details, and he said that a friend of him in SA will take the money on his behalf, and gave me the friends banking details....

The guy at some stage signed off the email with a different name...maybe he was not the brightest... but it seems like they all have the same story.

[MOFASA]

Thank you for your interest. The price is R25,000. This is the final price and there will be no additional charges. The motorhome looks and runs great. First of all I am selling the motorhome so cheap because I am in United Kingdom with my new job and I just finished a divorce. I will stay here for 3 years so this is the reason why I want to sell the motorhome. I am a VerifiedTrader so the transaction will be done through eBay so we can both be protected. If you're ready for this purchase, I need to know your full name and address for delivery because as soon as I have them I will start the official procedure and eBay will notify you about this. eBay will send you an Invoice with all the info you need to complete the transaction. Also a 10 days refund policy will be included so if you will not like the motorhome or if something will be wrong you will receive your money back in the same day without any charges from your side. Thanks

This sounds SOOOOOO close to a mail i recieved about 3 years ago for a Ski boat i was interested in buying and it was also so cheap that I just had to find out more....

After i recieved the mail stating that i could not see it but it would be delivered to me i knew it was a scam....

STAY AWAY.........

[stephanvaneeden]

Het al dieselfde gekry vir 'n karavaan wat ek wou koop, presies dieselfde storie. Het toe verder op junkmail gaan kyk en merk toe op hy het 'n ander persoon se fotos gekopie gebruik.

[jacques kotze]

I see there is a guy in the 4x4 classified paper advertising a 2011 d4d 4x4 Hilux for R100 000 or you can pay a R8000 dep and pay R3500 pm installments. Idiot!!

[kfxnando]

well decided to see how good I am at this, however me not very good at this BS!!

so hope I sound desperate enough!!

just sent him this!!

hi!!
eish feel bad about this!!
however I would realy love to have this vehicle for my weekends away, hell knows I need a break!!
however the wife(and you know how woman are) says if we can't see the vehicle then no deal
went to the bank half made a loan for the vehicle, provisionally approved, however the wife wants to crack
she say no way am I buying something without seeing it before
me desperate, and dont wish to loose the deal
if you could help with telling me where the vehicle can be seen, it would help greatly at bending the wife's arm to agreeing to this deal
hope the vehicle is still available, and hope you can help

lets see how this goes!!
got nothing to loose!!

[Black Sam]

Dis waarmee ek besig was, wat 'n "Bols-up"

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Details for transaction #GC128820382
Item title: 2010 Toyota Fortuner 3.0D-4D 5 Speed 4x4
Sale price: R195,000.00
Quantity: 1
Subtotal: R195,000.00
Shipping & Handling: R0.00
Sale date: 25/03/2013
Totall price: R195,000.00

Seller: Maya Wagman
Buyer: Gert Wessel Louwrens
Seller address: 49 Pell Street, Reading, Berkshire RG1 2NX, United Kingdom
Shipping address: 50 Hoog Street, Vryheid 3100, South Africa
Delivery time: 5-7 days

Die tuna het 60693km op, maar volgens Toyota het die spesifieke Tuna al sy 90 000km diens gehad.

Mense is weird....

[WayneSchalk]

Be very careful this guy is very busy

have a look at this

http://www.reportacrime.co.za/CrimeReport.aspx?ID=3196

Big time fraudster!!!!

[Die$eL]

Here is a challenge for you

instead of him scamming you, why not turn the tables

come up with some story about why he needs to pay you before you can get access to funds to pay him or something like that

[kfxnando]

normaly he replies within an hr, after last night mail nothing!!

oh well, at least this serves as a warning to others!!

we were not happy with the situation from the word go. had we been able to see the vehicle, had it existed . . . . . . .

[Ali3n]

normaly he replies within an hr, after last night mail nothing!!

oh well, at least this serves as a warning to others!!

we were not happy with the situation from the word go. had we been able to see the vehicle, had it existed . . . . . . .

It does exist hence the photos but does he own it is another story.

1 has to be so so carefull ..

[kfxnando]

normaly he replies within an hr, after last night mail nothing!!

oh well, at least this serves as a warning to others!!

we were not happy with the situation from the word go. had we been able to see the vehicle, had it existed . . . . . . .

It does exist hence the photos but does he own it is another story.

1 has to be so so carefull ..

true true!!