Are 4x4 drivers bullies?

[Animul]

Ok, I started my new job but without fuel card .

As an interim and because I also want to drive a Toyota :) we decided that I will drive 116km a day with my wife's Yaris (giving 17.1km/l ) and she will drive Animul 32km a day to work and back (fuel consumption was 13.4l/100, now its 16l/100).

Every single morning I am bullied by the bigger vehicles on the road and it made me wonder, are all (4x4) drivers like that? Do they bully smaller vehicles unintentionally?

What your opinion?

[SuidWes]

Some definitely are.... :| – Me, I only bully Taxis

[Edwin Hilux]

kom dat ek jou bietjie bullie Animul, een van die dae ry ek ook my vrou se Yaris en sy die 4x4, dan gaan sy my seker op die pad bullie

[Animul]

Some definitely are.... :| – Me, I only bully Taxis

I dont think you can bully taxi's, I think you are just standing your ground

[kfxnando]

all NO!!

a high percentage yes!!
the above is from personal experiance!!
from driving my day to day car and bike!!

the worst, and again in my experiance, the Ford guys, with the BT 50s drivers being the worst of that bunch!! and self drive a Ford
again in experiance, Nissan coming a close second

the better ones, the Hilux drivers
again from personal experiance
when I first got me Ford it was very slow, it basically forced me to calm down, coming from a car that had the power to weave and duck and dive between the trafic!!
maybe hilux drivers know what their vehicles and and cant do, and are more layed back/relaced
not sure and not being funny!!

with the Jeep find myself when irritated using the V8 power and getting in and out of traffic, or past idiots, withough being a bully!!

[Mud Dog]

I often find that I have to check myself when encountering 'idiots' (as Fernando put it) .... but let's just call them inconsiderate bastards. I just have to look at the http://www.hilux4x4.co.za" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; sticker on the wind-shield to be reminded that there are more such identifications on the vehicle and that I'm in the public eye .... don't want to let the team down and become one of those bastards myself.

[OOOOMS]

Not only by 4x4's, but anything larger than a plat kar gets bullied......

The other day I had a 18 wheeler....bully me :!:

[Gideonvanzyl]

I just stand my ground against taxis. As a hilux member I also choose to drive considerate of other road users. You are right, there are 4x4 bullies out there, I guess I will stand my ground against them as well. I think also that the 4x4 bullies mostly drive the SUV AWD type of 4x4 vehicles, you know, the ones without low range.

[Mikem1]

Jhb metro the best bulllies!

[CasKru]

Some definitely are.... :| – Me, I only bully Taxis

Stem.... mense voel untouchable in die groter voertuie maar hulle besef nie hulle gaan seerder kry as dinge verkeerd gaan nie....

[ChrisF]

There are kinds of drivers out on the road, some "just drive", a couple drive defensively, and many drive "aggresively".

Now this last group are found in ALL manner of vehicles, from scooters to SMALL cars and even in 4x4's. Now when somebody is an a "large" vehicle and drive aggresively it is seen to be a bully. When somebody drives aggresivly in a platkar he is a called a "pad vark". And when somebody drives aggresively on a scooter he is just being an idiot.


Are 4x4 drivers bullies? Sadly, some are ....

[bosjakkals]

Hell Yea !!!

Die lyn sal ek trek by die grote van die voertuig in teenstelling van die 4x4, as ek haastig is in my SFA rook ek n sigaret en sukkel maar verder aan. Maar as ek in die D4D is en ek is haastig gebruik ek die krag tot my voordeel en as n P@ep@l sukkel gee ek dit nie n tweede gedagte om weg te kom nie. Sulke stadige en dommies wat in die regter baan bly en sukkel maak my lam. Met my SFA kry ek myself kort kort in die geel baan waar ek plek maak vir die mense wat die krag en spoed het om weg te kom.

Ek beskou myself nie as n bully nie maar ek is nie skaam om te erken as ek partykeer agresief ry om uit n gevaarlike situasie te kom.
Gevaarlike situasies sluit in dronkies, vroue(party), taxis en groter en gevaarlike voertuie op sekere stukke pad. M2CW

[warthog]

CJ, as jy so voor my ry, sal ek you "hazards" gooi om dankie te se as ek verbymkom, stop langs my by die volgende dorp, en ek koop vir jou 'n gladde ietsie vir die keel.

[SuidWes]

SuidWes wrote:
Some definitely are.... – Me, I only bully Taxis

Stem.... mense voel untouchable in die groter voertuie maar hulle besef nie hulle gaan seerder kry as dinge verkeerd gaan nie....

As mentioned by Animul, I suppose most of the time it is more a case of standing my ground. I drive the SFA once a week just to keep the juices going and I would say my driving style is similar to when I drive the Polo but the taxis take way less chances... Love driving the SFA

[arnize2]

Chris som die situasie perfek op. Net soos CJ is ek ook meer in die geel strepe met my SFA, want ek weet wat my beperkings is. Wat my egter al meer opval, is dat voertuie mekaar verbysteek al kom daar 'n ander voertuig van voor af. Ek was al in 'n paar benoude situasies. :alvarin:

[Piesang]

In my oë is 'n voertuig maar net een groot vuurwapen (meer mense sterf dagliks deur hul as deur 'n vuurwapens) dus gebruik ek myne met ander mense se lewens ingedagte. Om ander verkeer aftesny of voor hul in tedruk net om dat ek moetswillig is nee, mense se lewens is in gedrang.

MAAR.

Nou kan ek net nie verstaan hoekom mense voel as hul 'n plat kar ry moet hul voor 'n 4x4 wees nie????????? Gesteraand weer ek is op die max spoed vir die pad, dubbel baan en 100m voorentoe raak die twee bane een linket loop dood en ek stadige verkeer verby gegaan en bly in regter baan. Niemand was agter my in vinnige baan. Skielik kom daar 'n plat kar teen 'n helse spoel links verby gejaag net om voor my te kon wees. Toe ek vir die ou ligte flis wys hy daar tekens uit sy kar wat nie mooi is nie, toe vergeet ek maar gemoedelik dat my ligte nog op skerp is.

En oja, ek het nog altyd in donkerte of as ek nie ver genoeg voor my kan sien oor gegaan in die geel baan. Ek ry in elk geval max spoed in dien nie iets meer nie, so as 'n ou vil jaar moet hy maar wag toe waar dit veilig is om my verby te gaan.

So as ek daar deur geken word as 'n bullie dan is ek ook 'n 4x4 bullie.

[JohanM]

Ek het die laaste ruk baie met die Platkar gery, en meeste van dit in die stad of in die verkeer oppad daarheen of oppad terug huistoe.

Ek moet erken dat ek my nie laat bully deur n 4x4 of groter voertuig as ek met die Volvo ry nie want meeste van hulle kan nie stop, draai/uitswaai en of versnel soos ek nie. So ja as hulle my probeer bully dan gee ek hom wat hy verdien en meestal het baie SUV & 4x4 eienaars gesien dat al is hy groter gaan hy baie seerder kry. Dit is seker nie altyd reg nie, maar as die situasie vereis dat ek moet "spore" maak doen ek dit behoorlik om duidelik te wys dat hy nie die situasie beheer omdat hy n groter (LOMP) voertuig ry nie, maar eerder die platkar omdat ek baie makliker as hy myself kan "red" omdat die voertuig daarvoor ontwerp is.

Ek het geen probleem met iemand wat die snelheids perk gehoorsaam nie, maar het n klientjie dood daaraan oor die populasie se arrogante houding van ek ry 120 in die regter baan want ek het nou die SUV/ MOTOR/BAKKIE/4x4/VITO gekoop.

Ek ry baie met die SFA ook en probeer altyd "defensively" ry en nie kwaad word nie. Ek spandeer meeste van my tyd in die linker baan teen die snelheidsgrens. Maar moet bieg dat ek het al n paar keer lus gevoel en maak daai ou wat soos n vark ry se kar bietjie kleiner met n paar items missing.

Ek dink dit kom neer op die State of mind waarmee jy agter die wiel inskuif wat bepaal of jy as n "bully" gesien gaan word al dan nie. Ek laat nie toe dat iemand my bully nie, maar sal doen wat nodig is om myself te beskerm teen ander se idiotiese optredes in die verkeer.

Ek moet sê dat die taxi's vereis iets groters as n SFA om respek te toon. Selfs n Cruiser is te klein vir hulle arrogante houding en styl. Ek dink dit is waar iets soos die Toyota Tundra wat in Amerika beskikbaar is sal mooi werk hierso.

Dit is dalk hoekom ons hom nie hier kry nie want dan gaan toyota nie so baie taxi's meer kan verkoop nie......

[Sebata]

talk of bullying taxis drivers, a cousin of mine (Donkey on the forum) has made it his personal mission to bully taxi drivers, he would literally switch on the high beams lights just to irritate them..

[Stef]

I find that it is mostly the ones with the 'L' in the number plate on the N1...platkar or SUV and the occupants are usually of the token goverment type it seems...luxury vehicle, knock off sunglasses and designer outfits with white socks.

I make room for them to pass, they're bound to cause trouble and I'd rather let it be waayy in front than right in front...

[ThysdJ]

YO! julle is 'n klomp aggresiewe mannetjies... Ek raak self baie opgewerk as taxis oor my pad kom en begin opdringerig raak, hulle moet maar hulle kanse vat, ek "stand my ground" soos die ander, maar ek sal nie loop jag maak op hulle nie.... :shifty: :shifty:

[Kagiso]

Me being with Irish blood - YES I am aggro on the road - but only when some BULK-SMS dictates that I must drive below the speed limit [the legal one, not Lobo's ] and they sit & vrek in the overtake lane [because they don't bother to to move left as the law dictates ..
I think it got worse the while I was driving around in Lagos - Those Nigerians really know how to make life bearable on busy streets & roads. [even parking is a death-wish activity between Leki and V I ]

[Die$eL]

i'd say not all
unfortunately some are

however, other than the obvious taxis that are bullies, the major bullies are any black vehicle with black tint and with those little lights in the grill or on the dashboard. Those are the worst by far!!!!!

I do find that people quickly get out of the way of my lux though... not that i bully them. they just seem intimidated by The Big Zee... :)

[bosjakkals]

Waar ek nou regtig n bully is is waneer ek in n "Stop / Go" baan staan en die Taxis en ander 4x4 's kom regs verby om voor in te druk of op die Hiway as ek wel die dag in die stad is wil hulle links in die geel baan deurjaag trek ek net so entjie uit my baan uit en maak die pad net genoeg toe sodat hy sy voertuig moet beskadig om verby te gaan.

Ek stem saam n SFA is seker nie die grootste bakkie nie maar met al die ysters voor en agter op my bakkie kan hy dam intimederend wees.

Dis seker meer spitefull as bully maar dit gee my nogal groot genot as die ou rooi word en hy weet hy is eintlik verkeerd.

Snaaks hoe baie mense cheer en waai vir jou as jy dit doen.

PS: daai koue outjie klink vir my reg

[wim]

Ek moet nogal erken dat vandat ek die lexus in het put ek nogal genot daaruit om die windg@t laaities met hulle waremgemaakte golfies en sentratjies n lekker piets te gee.JA ja ok daar het ook noudiedag n stywelip M/benz bestuurder ook bietjie pak gekry.

[Piesang]

Ek moet nogal erken dat vandat ek die lexus in het put ek nogal genot daaruit om die windg@t laaities met hulle waremgemaakte golfies en sentratjies n lekker piets te gee.JA ja ok daar het ook noudiedag n stywelip M/benz bestuurder ook bietjie pak gekry.

Daar is 'n verskul om 'n 4x4 bullie en windgat te wees gee hom gas Johanna, gee hom gas.
Ek sou die selfde doen as ek daai perre onder die kap gehad het

[Donkey]

talk of bullying taxis drivers, a cousin of mine (Donkey on the forum) has made it his personal mission to bully taxi drivers, he would literally switch on the high beams lights just to irritate them..

Morning guys, this is a sensitive topic to me. As Sebata says I bully taxis - in fact to be more precise I hate taxis, they are the only ones I bully. I drive the Corolla in the week to work and for errands (and they can do what pleases them around me, it's cool). There's no such luck when I'm in the truck.

I think I'm a safe defensive driver generally, keep to speed limit, bukle up, hands-free kit and am generally helpful on the road - i.e. giving way and so forth.

But geez taxis get to me...
They are rude, careless (even when carrying a full load), inconsiderate, selfish and think they own the road. They have a tendency to stop in the middle of the road, blocking everyone, whilst they exchange loose change or a match for cigarettes - that drives me up the wall. Other times I can control myself and other times not, but I try nonetheless. Nothing is more frustrating than driving angry - not worth it.

But yah...

[luckyhit]

Ok, ek het nou al lank gedink hier oor, ja ek is 'n bully. As jy 'n klein snotkop windgat is met jou corsatjie wat voor my in neuk gan ek jou bully, en dit geld ook vir golfies!!!!!!!
Dan nie eers te praat van taxi's nie, ek ry baie met my moeder se Atos, hulle voel net 'n veer en doen wat hulle wil!

So ja ek is 'n bully en se dit met trots!

[ChrisF]

heel week met die platkar gery ... nogal n paar keer afgesny deur "4x4's" (maar die lyk meer na mall crawlers as regte 4x4's).

more ry ek weer met Elders. :)

sommer n paar honderd kilos vir werk ... :) :)

[Hoppy]

Onthou die 4 rigting stop reel; grootste wiele ry eerste!

[ChrisF]

Hoppy there is just something about that Burnco STEEL bumper .... taxis DO stay clear ....

[Hoppy]

I like to test my brakes in front of them and watch many pairs of eyes grow in my rearview mirror.

[Animul]

Ever wondered what reaction you will get from a taxi driver if he stops in front of you, you switch to low range and push him out of the way???? I have that thought every single day!!! Luckily I am driving the Yaris during the week, but then again ... I might try that with the Yaris as well.

On Wednesday my Jeep went for a service in Sandton and driving to and from Pretoria was a total different experience ... dont know if it is the size, the bumpers or the kickboxing branded stickers but the normal "force myself in front of you coz I dont worry about my taxi" drivers behaved. or rather didn't take chances in front of me ...

[Piesang]

Ever wondered what reaction you will get from a taxi driver if he stops in front of you, you switch to low range and push him out of the way???? I have that thought every single day!!! Luckily I am driving the Yaris during the week, but then again ... I might try that with the Yaris as well.

On Wednesday my Jeep went for a service in Sandton and driving to and from Pretoria was a total different experience ... dont know if it is the size, the bumpers or the kickboxing branded stickers but the normal "force myself in front of you coz I dont worry about my taxi" drivers behaved. or rather didn't take chances in front of me ...

Hulle was seker bang sy remme werk nie, oeps sorry jy het gesê Jeep nie LD nie

[Animul]

remme byt gewoonlik eers laterig as ek sien a kar/taxi wil oor rooi lik of kruising ry ... dan ewe skielik werk my remme wanneer hulle sin werk ... maar ai, soms moet dit maar hard werk ook ...

[Royco]

... you switch to low range and push him out of the way...

... I might try that with the Yaris as well.

Is that a Hilux gearbox you have in your Yaris?

[Animul]

No, unfortunately the gearbox come from a Tundra ....

[ChrisF]

just did 200km work trip in the Hilux ..... and ALL vehicles behaved ! NOBODY pushed their way in front of me .....

I LOVE MY HILUX !!