Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
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Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
I have to make the following decision:
1. Do I EFI my 4Y - this can be done by Louis Zanoli at 4x4 Megaworld Menlyn for around R13000. It will push up power slightly and improve driveability and maintain the reliability - but this is not an "exciting" option (although maybe the sensible one).
2. Go the Lexus V8 route - I received the following quotes - R55000 for the 1UZ - R70000 for the 2UZ and R80000 for the 3UZ. This is potentially a "very exciting" option but has the potential to turn into a "mine field". I have read horror stories (and a couple of good ones) on this conversion but my main problem is - who can be trusted to do this conversion above all doubt??
1. Do I EFI my 4Y - this can be done by Louis Zanoli at 4x4 Megaworld Menlyn for around R13000. It will push up power slightly and improve driveability and maintain the reliability - but this is not an "exciting" option (although maybe the sensible one).
2. Go the Lexus V8 route - I received the following quotes - R55000 for the 1UZ - R70000 for the 2UZ and R80000 for the 3UZ. This is potentially a "very exciting" option but has the potential to turn into a "mine field". I have read horror stories (and a couple of good ones) on this conversion but my main problem is - who can be trusted to do this conversion above all doubt??
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
Hugo,
You have allready answered your question. The EFI route is the way to go if you are doing lots of remote overland travel. I do not say that the UZ conversions are unreliable, but many have been done and few are actually really running 100% without any problems.
SO its horses for courses. If you are willing to sort all the "teething" problems out over time the Lexus might be a good option if you are power hungry. But remember that you will need to do a lot of upgrades to the brakes ect of the vehicle if you go that route, so 70 K might end up being closer to 90K and that is a lot of dough to spend for more power and same fuel consumption.
You have allready answered your question. The EFI route is the way to go if you are doing lots of remote overland travel. I do not say that the UZ conversions are unreliable, but many have been done and few are actually really running 100% without any problems.
SO its horses for courses. If you are willing to sort all the "teething" problems out over time the Lexus might be a good option if you are power hungry. But remember that you will need to do a lot of upgrades to the brakes ect of the vehicle if you go that route, so 70 K might end up being closer to 90K and that is a lot of dough to spend for more power and same fuel consumption.
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
Well mine has just revently been Efi'd and I think that is the route to go. But the sound of that lexus......
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
Yes Johan - this is what my brain is telling me...JohanM wrote:Hugo,
You have allready answered your question. The EFI route is the way to go .....
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And this what my heart is telling me....Borntofish wrote:But the sound of that lexus......
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
You can speak to BlumTRD here on the forum. He did a lexus conversion on his 2.7 and as far as i know he is very happy. There is a place in pretoria where you can get the I think 1urz engine, box and original management system for less than 10k.
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
Hugo, dink mooi oor die Lexus opsie, dis baie geld wat jy nooit weer gaan sien nie en maak nie saak wie wat se nie, daar kom altyd 'n klompie "teething" probleme saam oa. hitte, remme, drivetrain ens., ens. Dit klink mooi maar jy gaan net 30-40% van die krag gebruik, en as jy besluit om al daai krag te gebruik begin dinge breek, buig en twist - nog geld wat jy nie weer gaan sien nie. ( myne trek al ver oor R100000 en hy wag alweer in die garage vir die volgende betaal sessie).
Hou hom standaard en gaan vir die EFI opsie as jy meer krag soek. Mens ry buitendien nie meer as 140-150 met 'n SFA nie, hy raak te onstabiel.
Hou hom standaard en gaan vir die EFI opsie as jy meer krag soek. Mens ry buitendien nie meer as 140-150 met 'n SFA nie, hy raak te onstabiel.
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
Go LexusNicoP wrote:You can speak to BlumTRD here on the forum. He did a lexus conversion on his 2.7 and as far as i know he is very happy. There is a place in pretoria where you can get the I think 1urz engine, box and original management system for less than 10k.
He he he
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
If your lux is in good nick and you got the bucks... go Lexus... remember you are probably going to break things in the drive train over time, but well that's the cost of owning a power monster! Speak to PersKers, Spartan, RedHummer, ConversionMan(Fana) on the forum, they are all very knowledgable on engine conversions, and know who can do it properly...
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
I love my 1UZ!!!!!!Agteros wrote:Yes Johan - this is what my brain is telling me...JohanM wrote:Hugo,
You have allready answered your question. The EFI route is the way to go .....
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
I also love my Lexus, yes I am still sorting out problems but I am winning and the guy that did the convertion did not have a clu, I will do it aggain if i have to. Will just do the convertion myself next time or get someont that knows it. properly.
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
Thanks Guys for all your responses so far.......
Koos - dankie vir jou eerlikheid - ek stem saam ek sal daardie geld op 'n Lexus nooit weer sien met 'n herverkoop nie.
Maar my agterent jeuk so ek moet nog inligting inwin oor die Lexus voor ek die idee heeltemal afskryf - dankie David (BlumTRD) - sal jou 'n lui gee (sal sien of ek jou dalk oor die naweek in die hande kan kry).
Thanks Mr B for all the names (I have spoken to Redhummer last week - he said he will get back to me).
Tiaan, Quintin - seems you guys are very happy but acknowledge the teething problems - my biggest problem (if I decide to go ahead with the conversion) is to find the right man to do the job
Koos - dankie vir jou eerlikheid - ek stem saam ek sal daardie geld op 'n Lexus nooit weer sien met 'n herverkoop nie.
Maar my agterent jeuk so ek moet nog inligting inwin oor die Lexus voor ek die idee heeltemal afskryf - dankie David (BlumTRD) - sal jou 'n lui gee (sal sien of ek jou dalk oor die naweek in die hande kan kry).
Thanks Mr B for all the names (I have spoken to Redhummer last week - he said he will get back to me).
Tiaan, Quintin - seems you guys are very happy but acknowledge the teething problems - my biggest problem (if I decide to go ahead with the conversion) is to find the right man to do the job
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
Kom ry my Efi.
Ek moet se die Lexus is mooi as hy loop, maar mens moet dit reg doen. Johan se Lexus staan weer by my met 'n clutch probleem(ingesit deur ander instansie).
Sterkte met die besluit.
Ek moet se die Lexus is mooi as hy loop, maar mens moet dit reg doen. Johan se Lexus staan weer by my met 'n clutch probleem(ingesit deur ander instansie).
Sterkte met die besluit.
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Koos - dankie vir jou eerlikheid - ek stem saam ek sal daardie geld op 'n Lexus nooit weer sien met 'n herverkoop nie.
As jy terugkyk na my threads het ek myself dalk in die voet geskiet om ou vale te verkoop oor al my gekla, maar dis die probleem met conversions en jy kan dit nie wegwens nie, en daar's 'n paar ouens nou en dan op die forum wat baie slim is maar groot bullshitters. PM my dan praat ons verder voor jy jou geld mors!
As jy terugkyk na my threads het ek myself dalk in die voet geskiet om ou vale te verkoop oor al my gekla, maar dis die probleem met conversions en jy kan dit nie wegwens nie, en daar's 'n paar ouens nou en dan op die forum wat baie slim is maar groot bullshitters. PM my dan praat ons verder voor jy jou geld mors!
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
Koos - dankie vir jou eerlikheid - ek stem saam ek sal daardie geld op 'n Lexus nooit weer sien met 'n herverkoop nie.
As jy terugkyk na my threads het ek myself dalk in die voet geskiet om ou vale te verkoop oor al my gekla, maar dis die probleem met conversions en jy kan dit nie wegwens nie, en daar's 'n paar ouens nou en dan op die forum wat baie slim is maar groot bullshitters. PM my dan praat ons verder voor jy jou geld mors!
As jy terugkyk na my threads het ek myself dalk in die voet geskiet om ou vale te verkoop oor al my gekla, maar dis die probleem met conversions en jy kan dit nie wegwens nie, en daar's 'n paar ouens nou en dan op die forum wat baie slim is maar groot bullshitters. PM my dan praat ons verder voor jy jou geld mors!
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
Koos - dankie vir jou eerlikheid - ek stem saam ek sal daardie geld op 'n Lexus nooit weer sien met 'n herverkoop nie.
As jy terugkyk na my threads het ek myself dalk in die voet geskiet om ou vale te probeer verkoop na al my gekla op die forum, maar dis die probleem met conversions en jy kan dit nie wegwens nie, en daar's 'n paar ouens nou en dan op die forum wat baie slim is maar groot bullshitters. PM my dan praat ons verder voor jy jou geld mors!
As jy terugkyk na my threads het ek myself dalk in die voet geskiet om ou vale te probeer verkoop na al my gekla op die forum, maar dis die probleem met conversions en jy kan dit nie wegwens nie, en daar's 'n paar ouens nou en dan op die forum wat baie slim is maar groot bullshitters. PM my dan praat ons verder voor jy jou geld mors!
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
Dankie Louis - ek sal jou opneem met jou aanbod! - Groetnis!4x4megaworldpta wrote:Kom ry my Efi.
Sterkte met die besluit.
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
Jy hoef nie baie te wonder nie, kom kyk na ons werk en die gehalte wat ek vir jou aanbied en dan besluit jy maar self verder. Ek het 'n oop boek besigheid en hou nie van kort paaie nie want dit kom terug na jou toe. Die Lexus Conversions is op die staduim my brood en botter so ek kan nie bekostig om nonsens aan te jaag nie want dan gaan ek nie ver kom nie, ons rammel dit nie af nie so die werk word deeglik gedoen.
Op die staduim is ek die enigste ou wat die conversions doen wat 95% van die werk alles onder een dak doen, ons bou self die adaptors mountings en doen ook die bedrading tot waar die voertuig ge dyno word en dan kom ry jy hom weg by ons werkswinkel.
Beloer die webwerf en kom kuier: http://www.lexusv8conversions.co.za/w-l ... isplay.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So voel vry kom ry my bakkie met 'n conversion in en dan maak jy 'n besluit.
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Op die staduim is ek die enigste ou wat die conversions doen wat 95% van die werk alles onder een dak doen, ons bou self die adaptors mountings en doen ook die bedrading tot waar die voertuig ge dyno word en dan kom ry jy hom weg by ons werkswinkel.
Beloer die webwerf en kom kuier: http://www.lexusv8conversions.co.za/w-l ... isplay.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So voel vry kom ry my bakkie met 'n conversion in en dan maak jy 'n besluit.
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
Rian dankie - ek gaan jou ook opneem met jou aanbod - sal baie graag wil voel hoe so 'n V8 bakkie loop. Ek kontak jou as al die vakansiedae verby is.
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Smaak my ons sal jou naam moet verander as jy die Lexus V8 insit... Agteros sal nie meer so lekker werk nie.... Voorbok werk beter..
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
Hugo......het jy al daai V8 gaan ry?
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
In my opinie (met dit wat ek nou al gesien & gehoor het) is die 2JZ vir omtrent so R8000 (enijn) die beste opsie...minimum modifikasies, oorgenoeg krag en goeie petrol verbruik; dink amper Spartan het iets gepraat van 9km/l...maar laat hy eerder self vertel.
Ek weet Spartan se boet doen ook conversions, maar het nie die kontak besonderhede nie, stuur hom 'n PM
Die 4Y is maklik om te EFi maar in my geval met die 22R is dit moeilik met die parte saam, so vir my is dit die 2JZ, nie dat ek geld het nie.
Ek weet Spartan se boet doen ook conversions, maar het nie die kontak besonderhede nie, stuur hom 'n PM
Die 4Y is maklik om te EFi maar in my geval met die 22R is dit moeilik met die parte saam, so vir my is dit die 2JZ, nie dat ek geld het nie.
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Baie Dankie!!Lollie wrote:Sorry dat ek die topic hijack,wil net vit Stef welkom terug se.Het hom gemis op die forum.
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
Of "Bok vir Sports"ThysdJ wrote:Smaak my ons sal jou naam moet verander as jy die Lexus V8 insit... Agteros sal nie meer so lekker werk nie.... Voorbok werk beter..
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
Hi Tiaan - die werk hou my nog te vas na al hierdie vakansiedae. Het met Alex (Perskers) ook gepraat intussen darem.swartvark wrote:Hugo......het jy al daai V8 gaan ry?
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
As jy hom gery het gaan jy hom wil he!!!!!.....en dis 'n feit!!!!!
Enige iemand wat sy verstand gebruik weet dat 'n Hilux wat sin maak is WIT met 31" A/T bande en 'n 4Y EFi motor
MAAR dan start ek vir Swartvark en enige iets wat sin maak vlieg by die venster uit!!!!!
Enige iemand wat sy verstand gebruik weet dat 'n Hilux wat sin maak is WIT met 31" A/T bande en 'n 4Y EFi motor
MAAR dan start ek vir Swartvark en enige iets wat sin maak vlieg by die venster uit!!!!!
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Well put, I've been lucky enought to drive a lux with the lexus 8 in and WOW - Good thing my brains lie in my wifes handsswartvark wrote:As jy hom gery het gaan jy hom wil he!!!!!.....en dis 'n feit!!!!!
Enige iemand wat sy verstand gebruik weet dat 'n Hilux wat sin maak is WIT met 31" A/T bande en 'n 4Y EFi motor
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listen here!!Agteros wrote:And this what my heart is telling me....Borntofish wrote:But the sound of that lexus......
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
HI Guys
Followed the discussion of the EFI vs LExus on the 4y 2.2. Visited Louis saw his conversion. I am interested in doing the EFI conversion - but want to go the DIY route. Do you have any suggestions on where to find parts.
Followed the discussion of the EFI vs LExus on the 4y 2.2. Visited Louis saw his conversion. I am interested in doing the EFI conversion - but want to go the DIY route. Do you have any suggestions on where to find parts.
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
Hmmmm... times are a changing.... Mr B's 93KW 2.2L 4Y EFi engine may go up for sale in a little while...
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Re: Do I EFI my 4Y or do I go the Lexus route??
Looks like you are going to bee a buzzee bee soon...
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