Hilux mod

pampoen · Post by **pampoen** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:11 am

Hi guys im in the process of deciding whether i should sell my van or keep it,as im sure alot of you know ive had quiet a few problems with my 7mge conversion and so im considering doing a complete over haul on her inclding changing the suspension to coils.What do you guys think is the best system to use 3 link 4link? any reasons?

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:17 am

Luke, before deciding on that I'd first ask myself two questions:

- What is the reason/goal for the modification?
- Can I ever recover the money invested into the program?

After I have seen the malody some people have had with mechanical conversions I am very afraid to go down that road.

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:28 am

yes Luke, coils will work great, but there are very few such conversions that I know of so you'll be virtually breaking "new ground". Rather get the engine conversion sorted out 100% first before tackling additional projects, as this will lead to further frustrations.

As far as re-couping expenses when doing conversions, that will never happen, at least not in a financial Rands and Cents kind of way. The reward lies in the uniqueness of each conversion. I know it sounds nuts, but that's the way it is..

Gunta · Post by **Gunta** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:59 am

Luke, rebuild that 7mge properly. If you need any info give me a shout, I can do it in my sleep.

pampoen · Post by **pampoen** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:27 am

If i do decide to keep her the 7m will be the first thing to go,iv'e dream t about a v8 few a good many years and a few guys i know down here are running 5.0l hemis and ford 352s.Simple and cheap especially the 350 chev motors cheaper than the 7mge to rebuild actually.But first before any rebuild happens i must count the cost,not rands and cents but time and emotional strain,will let you okes know as the time draws near

pampoen · Post by **pampoen** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:39 pm

http://www.ehow.com/how_4739671_build-j ... nsion.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
a bit of interesting info.Flip those yanks can build stuff!
http://s10racer.com/board/showthread.php?t=541" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

in paticular look at the angled arm link design
http://www.automotivearticles.com/Suspe ... gn_2.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

pampoen · Post by **pampoen** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:22 pm

Well heres an update of what im up to,in the past few weeks iv'e picked up a v8 engine and began stripping it,its a 1957 318 5.2 with hemi heads,i picked it up for a song too,although it will need some work.Alot of work actually ia 150% rebuild to be perfectly honest,but i hear these engines are very very strong!forged steel crank and blocks
being carved from a solid iron pig.Stripping of the bakkie will take place as soon as i get time to sort my workshop
and make it waterproof.Then its a full strip of the chassis and suspension change,i think Defender 110 suspension
trailing arms etc will be the most simple.Anyway any input is most welcome.

Ive got pics just cant upload them,no gigs so will post them next month.

Gunta · Post by **Gunta** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:39 am

Careful Luke that bakkie is going to leak oil all over the place.

pampoen · Post by **pampoen** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:50 am

Dont worry i've got cressida seats

Andries · Post by **Andries** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:00 pm

Hi Luke jy sal nie spyt wees met die coil spring conversion nie ek is tans besig met my willys jeep se coil spring conversion.Hier is so paar foto's.

pampoen · Post by **pampoen** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:26 pm

i picked up this v8 which was supposed to be a 318 chrysler v8 it doesnt make sense though because i took the bore at 90mm and stroke at 95mm which i think gives a total of 4.8 Litres the 318 was a 5.2 litre though!can any of you fundies help an old dog out here?has anyone ever seen an engine like this before?Anyone a v8 guru?

pampoen · Post by **pampoen** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:35 pm

Sorry i cant seem to be able to upload pics for some reason.Can someone perhaps help me?

Gunta · Post by **Gunta** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:28 pm

Luke the 318 is definitely a 5.2l very good engine. Does not make sense with the bore and stroke. Where did you get them, and are you sure it's a 318?
I might have a manual somewhere, will have to look in the archives. Been a while sice I worked on one of those.

pampoen · Post by **pampoen** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:59 pm

Ah would be awsome man thanks

Thabogrobler · Post by **Thabogrobler** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:13 pm

Is it not a 282?

pampoen · Post by **pampoen** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:30 pm

I believe the 282 was only a straight six

BlumTRD · Post by **BlumTRD** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:56 pm

Chrysler A engine

The Chrysler A engine is a small-block V8 automobile engine from Chrysler Corporation. It was produced from 1956 until 1967, when it was replaced by the wedge-head LA engine. The A engine's combustion chambers are polyspherical, and it is not related to Chrysler's Hemi engine of the same era.

Hide Plymouth Poly A

The A-block family began with the 1956 Plymouth 277. The cylinder's bore centers are 4.46 in (113.28 mm) apart, a larger separation distance than was used in the earlier Dodge-based poly engines.

277

The 277 was the first A-block engine, sharing almost nothing but the basic concepts with the Dodge engines. It displaces 276.1 cu in (4.52 L) and was produced for 1956. Bore is 3.750 in (95.25 mm) and stroke is 3.125 in (79.38 mm).

303

The 1956 Plymouth 303 displaces 302.3 cu in (4.95 L) and uses the same Connecting rods as the 277; the bore is 3.8125 in (96.84 mm) and the stroke is 3.31 in (84.07 mm).

This engine was used in the following vehicles:

1956 Dodge Custom Royal (Canadian)
1956 Chrysler Windsor (Canadian)
1956 Plymouth Fury, 240 bhp (179.0 kW) with 4-barrel carburetor
1957 standard on all 118 in-wheelbase Dodges and Plymouths
301

The Plymouth 301 replaced the 277 in 1957. Its piston displacement is 299.6 cu in (4.9 L), owing to its 3.91 in (99.31 mm) bore. These dimensions are entirely different from the 1955 Chrysler 301.

313

A 312.3 cu in (5.1 L) version of the A engine called the 313 was produced primarily for Canadian and export markets. This engine has a bore of 3.875 in (98.43 mm) and the common 3.31 in (84.07 mm) stroke.

This engine was used in the following vehicles, amongst others:

1957 Canadian Dodge Custom Royal
1958-1964 standard on all 118 in wheelbase Dodges and Plymouths
1957-1964 Australian Chrysler Royal
Bristol 407
Bristol 408
318

The 318 is the most common version of the A engine, produced from 1957 through 1967 when it was replaced in all markets by the LA 318. Only Plymouth used this 318 in 1957 and 1958, but it was shared with the other Chrysler divisions from 1959 on. It displaces 318 cu in (5.21 L) and has a 3.91 in (99.31 mm) bore and the 3.31 in (84.07 mm) stroke.

A special 1957-'58 version used two four-barrel carburetors to produce 290 bhp (216.3 kW), making it the highest-output A engine. It was used in the 1957 and 1958 Plymouth Fury, but was also an option on "lesser" Plymouth models. The Bristol 409 and 410 continued to use this engine until 1969.

pampoen · Post by **pampoen** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:59 am

finally managed to upload a few pics!!

pampoen · Post by **pampoen** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:02 am

The engines been sitting for a couple of years as you can see,ill try get the piston spacing measurements later today.

Gunta · Post by **Gunta** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:48 am

Luke send that block in for an acid bath and leave it in for a min of 24 hours to get all that scale, grime and rust off.

pampoen · Post by **pampoen** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:55 am

will do, you recon pool acid will work?

Gunta · Post by **Gunta** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:22 pm

Check with the engeneers and find out what acid they use, it might not be pool acid.

kfxnando · Post by **kfxnando** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:36 am

Pampoen, saw your post on allpar, small world!!

on the pool acid, yes have seen that being used before, on engine parts!!

however used pool acid to clean some rust on my traylor, YES is removed the rust, however by night time the rust had started to form again!!
my advice would be if you are using pool acid, is to oil the part as soon as the rust is gone, either wise it might just start forming again!!
me think the pool acid strips the metal bare, including removing all rust, however it also leaves it exposed with out any other protection!!

good luck!!

pampoen · Post by **pampoen** » Tue May 24, 2011 9:12 pm

Some pics of the conversion so far.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Tue May 24, 2011 11:51 pm

Pool acid is far from ideal ..... It's hydrochloric, and Chlorine is in itself corrosive, hence the immediate re-appearance of rust. Sulphuric acid might be better, but I would think that Phosphoric acid would perhaps be the best option since it would probably leave a surface layer of iron phosphate (black) which neutralises / inhibits rust.
However, don't take my word on it and rather check with the guys that do it professionally. The other issue is what rate of dilution should be used so that it doesn't eat away at the metal.

pampoen · Post by **pampoen** » Wed May 25, 2011 9:22 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrochloric_acid" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

TOYOTA 4YEFI · Post by **TOYOTA 4YEFI** » Wed May 25, 2011 11:10 am

Andries wrote:Hi Luke jy sal nie spyt wees met die coil spring conversion nie ek is tans besig met my willys jeep se coil spring conversion.Hier is so paar foto's.

What coil setup did you use in your conversion and how much did you pay for them

Post by **Mud Dog** » Wed May 25, 2011 6:02 pm

pampoen wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrochloric_acid

Interesting, but like they say, it's highly corrosive. Nonetheless it seems as if it's used for de-scaling. As a matter of curiosity, I looked at this one as well ...... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphoric_acid" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Pretty much what I was saying.

pampoen · Post by **pampoen** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:43 pm

Hi guys tommorow i buy my v8!! a 305 chevrolet with a turbo 350 box,does anyone know if they make an adaptor from the autobox to low ratio 4x4 box ? ive sorted all my rusted holes out by putting NS1 Rust Buster followed by two coats of red oxide,then i rivit an aliminium plate on either side and fiberglass the whole area.An old panelbeater said to me you keep the heat down and you dont have any flex plus the metal will always want to rust where you welded.so i guess time will tell.

pampoen · Post by **pampoen** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:47 pm

I have a 305 chevrolet with a turbo 350 box,the engine mounts are no problem ,does anyone know if they make an adaptor from the autobox to low ratio 4x4 box

http://www.marks4wd.com/products/engine ... iluxa.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:02 pm

Luke as far as I know it is a custom built adapter...

pampoen · Post by **pampoen** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:25 pm

Re: Hilux mod
Luke as far as I know it is a custom built adapter...

No one makes an adaptor like that do they?Hows your v8 conversion going?

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:21 pm

pampoen wrote:No one makes an adaptor like that do they?Hows your v8 conversion going?

At the same speed as a dead snail...

It is on hold for the nearby future.

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