Intercooler - top mount or front mount
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Intercooler - top mount or front mount
I want to install an intercooler on my 3C-T Turbo Diesel
Do I Top mount it or front mount it.
when we installed on our plak kar we always front mounted for better airflow but on my 'Lux I am worried about damage
what is the concensus?
Do I Top mount it or front mount it.
when we installed on our plak kar we always front mounted for better airflow but on my 'Lux I am worried about damage
what is the concensus?
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Re: Intercooler - top mount or front mount
Hi Oom Rich
I know for a fact that SAC will mount it in front, for the very same reasons you have, somebody on the forum, can't remember who, has done the top mount, which I also prefer, lets hope they see this thread. Do you have a specific budget?
Regards,
I know for a fact that SAC will mount it in front, for the very same reasons you have, somebody on the forum, can't remember who, has done the top mount, which I also prefer, lets hope they see this thread. Do you have a specific budget?
Regards,
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Re: Intercooler - top mount or front mount
Got the intercooler, so will fab piping and fit myself, so the budget is just time :)
I'M leaning towards the top mount with an Isuzu Bonnet scoop
I'M leaning towards the top mount with an Isuzu Bonnet scoop
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Re: Intercooler - top mount or front mount
Top mount should be easier and the piping is much less than running to the front of the car. Another factor is through the length of pipe to front mount, is the additional volume in the pipes. The turbo now also needs to pressurize this additional volume causing turbo lag. Downside is that without a fan to cool it at very low speeds like off roading, the inter cooler starts working backward picking up heat from the engine and actually warming the air. Probably less noticeable as a front mount as the IC can not pick up as much heat as it would over the top.
Personally, I would go top mount with a fan at low speed. Just watch the scoop gets the air it needs if you have a bullbar that comes to the edge of your bonnet or even worse those bonnet skirts like the lux and fortuner has.
Post us pics when you got it done please.
Personally, I would go top mount with a fan at low speed. Just watch the scoop gets the air it needs if you have a bullbar that comes to the edge of your bonnet or even worse those bonnet skirts like the lux and fortuner has.
Post us pics when you got it done please.
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Re: Intercooler - top mount or front mount
My uncle owns two SFA hiluxes, one Double cab and one single cab. Double cab had standard 2.2 petrol inside which was replaced with a 3C, single cab had some 2.5 Chev engine in, which was also replaced with a 3C engine. They have tested an intercooler on the Single Cab (Front mount) and performed very well. He then tested the top mount one, and performed even better....
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Re: Intercooler - top mount or front mount
There are always a few different opinions here but this is basically what I think:
Find out which installation has the shortest boost pipes (probably top mount) and go with that, the shorter the boost pipes the less chance of the "boost" air getting hotter again after going through the cooler and reduce that lag that we all hate.
Run smaller diameter pipes from the turbo into the cooler and larger diameter pipes from the cooler to the intake manifold, this helps reduce lag that a cooler causes.
Front mount can also cause extra heat and starve the engine (and A/C) of cooler air it needs causing other problems esp at low speeds
Install a small fan (like the Colt TD)
Find out which installation has the shortest boost pipes (probably top mount) and go with that, the shorter the boost pipes the less chance of the "boost" air getting hotter again after going through the cooler and reduce that lag that we all hate.
Run smaller diameter pipes from the turbo into the cooler and larger diameter pipes from the cooler to the intake manifold, this helps reduce lag that a cooler causes.
Front mount can also cause extra heat and starve the engine (and A/C) of cooler air it needs causing other problems esp at low speeds
Install a small fan (like the Colt TD)
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Re: Intercooler - top mount or front mount
I previously owned a Terrano which had a top mount intercooler. The heat from the engine caused turbo lag when driving slow, like in traffic or on trails) I later fitted a fan on top of the intercooler to help with air flow when driving slow. The engine's heat, heats up the air in the intercoller and you end up having an inter-heater and not inter cooler.
Later models of the Terrano (the 3.0 Diesel) had the Intercooler on top, but on the side of the engine, not directly on top of the engine. Apparently some of the Pajero's (I think) comes standard with a fan on the intercooler to help with this problem.
When you drive at speed and there is enough air flowing it has no problem.
So besides the turbo lag due to the heat of the engine I do not think it is a bad idea to put it on top of the engine.
Later models of the Terrano (the 3.0 Diesel) had the Intercooler on top, but on the side of the engine, not directly on top of the engine. Apparently some of the Pajero's (I think) comes standard with a fan on the intercooler to help with this problem.
When you drive at speed and there is enough air flowing it has no problem.
So besides the turbo lag due to the heat of the engine I do not think it is a bad idea to put it on top of the engine.
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Re: Intercooler - top mount or front mount
Thanks for all the input - I will place it on top and look for an appropriate fan
will place pics as I go through the install...
will place pics as I go through the install...
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Re: Intercooler - top mount or front mount
hi Rick
phone Jap Auto for the intercoolers. They have the Mitsubishi one with the fan. quite big IC, so you will need to plan carefully how to mount it. Let me know cause i need to do it when i change to Diesel.
phone Jap Auto for the intercoolers. They have the Mitsubishi one with the fan. quite big IC, so you will need to plan carefully how to mount it. Let me know cause i need to do it when i change to Diesel.
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Re: Intercooler - top mount or front mount
Thanks Muz,
I actually have a great cooler but i like the idea of the Mitzi one with the fan.
i will let you know the details when I check it out...
I actually have a great cooler but i like the idea of the Mitzi one with the fan.
i will let you know the details when I check it out...