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MORNE · Post by **MORNE** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:29 pm

Ek wil graag weet , ek het nou my compressor agter my D/cab se agter sitplek geinstaleer sodat ek met hom daarvan kan werk. Dit is n gewone R 650 compressor van Safari center.
Kan ek nou n klein lugtenk by die scrapjard van n Dyna trok gaan haal en onder die Hilux insit.Gaan die compressor sterk genoeg wees om die lugtenk vol te pomp, en sal ek dan met die lugtenk se lug my tyres kan seat ?

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:36 pm

Hi, ek het dit al probeer dis 'n lang storie.....kort antwoord nee!
As jy wil, sal ek verduidelik, 0833070574

Thabogrobler · Post by **Thabogrobler** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:21 pm

Mark, ek toy ook al laaaaaank met daai idee - jy sal maar hier(in kort) vir ons moet verduidelik

Gertc · Post by **Gertc** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:28 pm

My logika se dit is `n mors van tyd. Hoekom wil jy nou eers `n tank vol maak en dan jou tyres uit die tenk uit as jy direk jou tyres kan pomp? As jy nou regtig `n tenk wil mound/ saam ry, kry vir jouself `n 10 liter duik silinder jy behoort so 16 keer jou bande van flat af met 1 silinder te kan vat na 2 bar toe. Of nog makliker gebruik net jou gewone kompressor.

Bushwacker · Post by **Bushwacker** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:30 pm

Waar kry ek `n 10 liter duik silinder

Post by **CasKru** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:32 pm

Bushwacker wrote:Waar kry ek `n 10 liter duik silinder

Gaan kyk onder in BassLake... miskien is daar een van iemand wat sy lug op geraak het... dan kry jy dalk 'n wetsuit saam

Thabogrobler · Post by **Thabogrobler** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:35 pm

en as ek dalk 'n airtool of twee wil gebruik? Of 'n nozzle aansit en die sand uit die 'lux blaas?

Gertc · Post by **Gertc** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:39 pm

Bushwacker wrote:Waar kry ek `n 10 liter duik silinder

Ini winkels. Enige duik winkel verkoop hulle. Maar dis beter om jou ou kompressortjie saam tery. Meen jy gaan om te ontspan nie om resies tery nie. mmmm ek het `n 150L kompressor en glo my 10 4x4 kompressors sal nie daai tenk volhou as jy `n airtool regtig gebruik nie.

Sand uit die lux teblaas. Dis 4x4 trips ini bos nie `n Kar skou nie. kry vir jou dan eerder `n stofsuier.

BenHur · Post by **BenHur** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:51 pm

Ja ek stem saam met Gert as ek bv 'n dremmel opsit en die druk opjaag na so 5 bar om biekie spoed te vang loop my 210l kompressor se pompie nogal gereeld en vir lang tye. Airtools nodig druk en volume.

cyborg · Post by **cyborg** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:23 pm

My opinion is that the compressor behind the seat is good for the worst case scinario, a tank somewhere under the car, for the odd tyre topup, maybe even try get a valve on there that you can fill the tank at the garage when required, and if you can do this all with a old Divers tank, great, for its capacity.
Not sure how do-able that all is though... :problem:

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:36 pm

OK here goes.....I had a 20l airtank fitted under my 2.4. A airpump cant fill it to 8bar. Garages have limits as to how much they can pump / produce. The best I could get was 10bar, then their compressor cuts out.

With a 20l airtank at 10bar you can only pump up a 265/75/15 tyre from 1 bar to 1.8bar, then the tank is empty.

Using a dive bottle, u get 250bar. Much better but has other implications, refilling / visualising every year and you have to have the right attachments.

What worries me the most is if that bottle says caboom :!: for whatever reason, you will prob go straight to heaven

cyborg · Post by **cyborg** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:00 am

[quote="OOOOMS"]Hi, ek het dit al probeer dis 'n lang storie.....kort antwoord nee!

Goed, dan verstaan ek jou eerste statement

Post by **Mud Dog** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:10 am

None of this makes sense to me either. Your mini compressor is not designed to run for long periods ... it will burn out. Why would you need to carry a volume of compressed air ... no good reason I can think of except if you perhaps de-bead a tyre, but even there, lighter fuel is so much quicker without the weight and space issues. Even without lighter fuel, a tornique around the circumference of the tyre while jacked off the ground will seat the beads well enough for the mini compressor to pump it up. It works. I've done it.

Next you will be wanting to have a built in gen-set with a drawer system for your power tools etc. No man, keep it simple and lightweight.

Thabogrobler · Post by **Thabogrobler** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:50 am

Fine!

If you want to be like that, then I'll forget about the airtank!!!

Whatson · Post by **Whatson** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:59 am

You can get advice, tanks, bits and pieces, 100% duty cycle compressors or complete kits here:

http://www.airspringsupply.co.za/riderite_coilrite.htm

Bosfebok · Post by **Bosfebok** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:08 am

I have seen in a 4x4 book that the guys just use the spare wheel for the purpose of beading a tyre that came of the rim. They pump the sparefull up, can't remember to what bar, and then used a hose attachment. They attached the hose to the wheel that needed beading first, and then to the sparewheel... the sudden flow of air into the sparewheel caused the tyre to bead instantly...

I haven't tried this... I guess your sparewheel can also be seen as a "tank" ...

Do you know of anyone selling these sort of hoses needed to fit on both wheels...

Post by **Mud Dog** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:51 am

Do you know of anyone selling these sort of hoses needed to fit on both wheels...

Easy enough to make up yourself, the fittings and hosing are readily available.

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:40 am

Morne, all you need to reseat a tyre is a little bit of lighter fluid and a match... kaboom daar sit hy.. I have done this before, it works...

Then use the compressor to inflate the wheel to the correct pressure.

Bosfebok · Post by **Bosfebok** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:18 am

Daai klink na 'n reg plan!! Kan mens enige aerosol sprei kannetjie gebruik, of moet dit lighter gas wees?

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:32 am

Methalated Spirits werk ook, maar enige ontvlambare vloeistof sal sekerlik werk. Ek ry altyd meths saam anyway. Mens kan dit vir baie goed gebruik.....

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:47 am

Here are some video clips on this thread on how to do it...

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1230&p=10563

Witblits · Post by **Witblits** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:26 pm

Dankie Thys, nou verstaan ekke ook.

Sifu-Lux · Post by **Sifu-Lux** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:07 pm

I installed a small 2 litre tank in the engine bay when I installed the ARB compressor for the diff locks. That way the system has pressure with a reserve volume, and the compressor doesn't have to run everytime you engage the lockers.

I used a Festo stainless steel air receiver and also connected it to a manifold block with a fixed gauge and quick coupler for inflating the tyres.

: Festo CRVZS-2 air reservior1.JPG (6.98 KiB) Viewed 3024 times

Scorpion · Post by **Scorpion** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:53 pm

Kaspaas wrote:Ek ry altyd meths saam anyway. Mens kan dit vir baie goed gebruik.....

Sies, Thys! Dis 'n familie forum die! Brandewyn is beter...

OOOOMS wrote: What worries me the most is if that bottle says caboom :!: for whatever reason, you will prob go straight to heaven

I don't want to be near one. We had an incident one year in Sodwana where a tank fell over and the valve came off. The tank took off like a rocket and was found more than 2km inland...

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:09 am

Scorpion wrote:Sies, Thys! Dis 'n familie forum die! Brandewyn is beter...

Net omdat jy OOK van daai gebruik weet is dit nie nodig om die hele wereld daarvan te vertel nie... hou dit maar ons geheim.

Uys · Post by **Uys** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:36 am

Kaspaas wrote:Methalated Spirits werk ook, maar enige ontvlambare vloeistof sal sekerlik werk. Ek ry altyd meths saam anyway. Mens kan dit vir baie goed gebruik.....

Ry jy 'n Witbrood ook saam?

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:11 pm

Chooo Chooooo Blou trein...

DOELLOOS · Post by **DOELLOOS** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:18 pm

Daai tenk lyk baie soos 'n tenk in die Interceptor, al sit die distributor voor. Jou tenk kan seker die koffie foamy maak met al daai lugdruk...

BenHur · Post by **BenHur** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:41 am

Kaspaas wrote: Ek ry altyd meths saam anyway. Mens kan dit vir baie goed gebruik.....

Eish boet wys jy nou jou hidden bergie maniere hierso

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:22 am

BenHur wrote:
Kaspaas wrote: Ek ry altyd meths saam anyway. Mens kan dit vir baie goed gebruik.....
Eish boet wys jy nou jou hidden bergie maniere hierso

Ek was nog nooit skaam oor my bergie maniere/herkoms/tradisies/gewoontes nie, wat wel jy nog weet?? Daai ding van die geelslang... dis ook waar..

Stephen · Post by **Stephen** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:35 pm

Salute',
My drawbar (Towbar) rusted through and I replaced it with a sched 40 carbon still pipe (2 off) with drain plugs on the side. These I use as my "air tank". My compressor is fixed, outlet to tank and Quick Coupling, kicks in at 400 KPag and out at 600 KPag via a press switch. I switch on and off only. I found this tank + PUMP RUNNING to be ample to get tyre back on the rim. After 3? years I parked on an angle to drain the pipes/tanks I found no water inside. Note I have a cerifugal in-line drier on the outlet of the complessor complete with autodrain (when bowl of drier gets a water level, it drains automatically). Note you rpipes inside diameter must be large enough to eliminate pressure drop. The only restriction is the valve orifice. Done 12? years ago. I have photos. Want to see?, email me stheron@chevron.com. Regards.
PS: I used an air con pump in the begining but are curently using a high volume dual head pump.

Stephen

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