1 jz-gte vvti into hilux Raider 2x4 ( Demon mods )

[Demon]

So i finally got started on my truck after alot of reading up about the 1jz motor. Now about 4 months later and it started last Sunday. Want to thank Redhummer and Alex for the good advice.

The truck - 2004 Hilux Raider 2x4 ( Single cab )
The only cutting on this truck will be to get the shifter back
and drill the holes for the intercooler pipes. ( Thats it )

The motor - 1jz vvti ( full vvti )
2500 L single turbo ( ct15b turbo) ( stock standard )
Straight six
Box - Four speed auto box

Standard spec - Bhp 280
kw 210
Nm 379

Motor weight- 217 Kg
Box- 57 Kg

Intercooler 600 x 300 and fits well

Motor has been pre run on the floor befor it went in. All seems well but will see when under load.

Looking to run a semi dry sump with surge tank that caries 10 Liters of oil.

Motor had 105000 Km on it.

Fuel consumption - 10 to 13 Km per liter ( Not confirmed yet thou )

Standard JZX 100 gear shifter with ECT switch. (Toyota shifter)
JZX 100 cluster with all the lights for drive,park,neutral and so on.
Going to run a PIC microcontroller for the SPD pick up for the ECU and speedo. Easy enough to then recalibrate the speedo thru the microcontroller when you change tyre size or diff.

Standard ECU ( Runninig FULL vvti ) ( All wirring is in house )
NO traction control

Any advice is welcome. Will be up dating this thread as i go but this mod is not the only thing iv got on my plate at this time. Thanks

[Mud Dog]

That bakkie is gonna walk! Are you doing any changes to the drive-train .... will the std diff be able to handle that amount of power? ... because you know you're going to floor it a few times! Whichever, std or upgrade, you might want to consider a LSD (Limited slip diff) for traction so that you can keep some of that power on the tar and not just blow it off in rubber smoke. Another advantage with the LSD in autobox config. is that gear changes can sometimes catch you unawares ... if this happens in a corner under acceleration (even moderately so), you can loose the tail, even worse in the wet, with possible disasterous outcome.

[Demon]

[Demon]

3RZ-FE motor went on Sunday thanks to Alex

[Demon]

The 1JZ motor

[Demon]

[Demon]

Got sum of the bits cleaned up

[Demon]

ct15b turbo stock on the 1JZ

[Demon]

The 1JZ went in on Friday

[Demon]

Sum good space

[Demon]

Will have to touch up the paint work on the fire wall Was a squeez getting in.

[Spartan]

Gooi die stock exhaust en turbo af en steek n branch met n ct26 toyota turbo op. Raak ontsla van die auto box en gaan manual kry ook n after market ECU, kry net een wat VVTi kan doen, die stock goed maak nie krag nie, praat van ondervinding, en as jy die lot by mekaar het moet nie skrik vir die bakkie nie. Moet ook nie meer as n bar gaan staan en boost nie hou maar by so .5 bar. Dit is n baie goeie engine. Kry ook vir jou n nuwe waterpomp en sit hom in voor jy die engine insit. Daai plaas toerusting kry gewoonlik n houding met n 1J in.

[Demon]

Good front space

[Spartan]

Will have to touch up the paint work on the fire wall Was a squeez getting in.

Jy moes al daai pyppe en plumbing en bolt-on goed af gehaal het dan sal jy nie so gesukkel het nie

[Demon]

A bit tite on the turbo side

[Demon]

For sure sparten i should have. Just did not want to many parts around. The space at my spot is not big. The problem was mostly front to back with the drop in but it went in well

[Spartan]

jong ja dit gaan maar rof as jy nie spasie het nie.

[Demon]

Got wires thru the fire wall today

[Demon]

Harnes fits well. Just need to get flang laser cut for the gromet

[Demon]

Inter cooler fits well

[Mud Dog]

Looks to me like that turbo is going to connect with the steering rod.

[Demon]

By the end of today

[Demon]

Managed to get the motor in nice and low. Got it nice and level. Nothing worse than a motor lying back at a angel.

[Demon]

The gap looks a bit smaller on the pic. Its about a finger between there. But ya would have liked a bit more space between that rack and the turbo

[Demon]

That bakkie is gonna walk! Are you doing any changes to the drive-train .... will the std diff be able to handle that amount of power? ... because you know you're going to floor it a few times! Whichever, std or upgrade, you might want to consider a LSD (Limited slip diff) for traction so that you can keep some of that power on the tar and not just blow it off in rubber smoke. Another advantage with the LSD in autobox config. is that gear changes can sometimes catch you unawares ... if this happens in a corner under acceleration (even moderately so), you can loose the tail, even worse in the wet, with possible disasterous outcome.

For sure I hear you there. Looking to put 305 takkies on this thing. Will see how the diff holds but im not to fased about it. Will run it with the ECT off in the rain and with the current diff ratios I think its pull off could be a bit calmer then expected, will have to see when its up and running

[Demon]

Gooi die stock exhaust en turbo af en steek n branch met n ct26 toyota turbo op. Raak ontsla van die auto box en gaan manual kry ook n after market ECU, kry net een wat VVTi kan doen, die stock goed maak nie krag nie, praat van ondervinding, en as jy die lot by mekaar het moet nie skrik vir die bakkie nie. Moet ook nie meer as n bar gaan staan en boost nie hou maar by so .5 bar. Dit is n baie goeie engine. Kry ook vir jou n nuwe waterpomp en sit hom in voor jy die engine insit. Daai plaas toerusting kry gewoonlik n houding met n 1J in.

Im not looking to go more with the power on this thing. 280 bhp is already giving your BMs a run for there money. There is no way im going for a local aftermarket ECU. Im looking for good fuel consumption on it mostly and also want it as a every day truck. Dont want the cold start isuse in winter and as far as the vvt goes, its run from the standard ECU and it works the way it should. Who better to run the vvt then the Japs ?????? ( maybe a Ausie or US system but then get readdy for $3000 +. In this case I would have to say local is not lekker.

[Spartan]

In this case I would have to say local is not lekker.

Stem nie saam nie maar dit is jou reg om te maak soos dit jou pas en dit is jou conversion moet nie dat ons ander ervare manne jou beinvloed nie

Dont want the cold start isuse in winter

Ek het nog nooit n probleem gehad met dit nie, jy sukkel net met sulke goed as jy telui is om te lees.

Who better to run the vvt then the Japs ?????? ( maybe a Ausie or US system but then get readdy for $3000 +.

My VVTi werk lekker en reg met n local ECU

280 bhp is already giving your BMs a run for there money.

Die BMW's ry ons dood met Normally aspirated Toyota engine's, hulle (BMW) is nie so hot soos die manne dink nie dit is die eienaars wat die kar se immage boost
Sterkte met jou projek Ons sal nie weer pla nie

[Demon]

Would have to say that you should rethink about the BMs. Iv come head to head with a M3 down William Nickhol road on my 1000 Fire blade and that thing stuck around. Doing over 200km per hour at one stage. Any ways this thing is not built for that so all i want is good on fuel and it must run well.

Ok so spend the time with the aftermarket setup and the reward will be sweet, I can say the very same about the standard ECU system. Give it what it needs and you will have a bullet proof system, great fuel consumption that is unmatched and NO running to put it on a dyno every month. The Ausies are big into these motors and they all get together on Toymods forum, most of them run it stock with standard ECU and go as far to shorten the waste gate on them. No need to do more. We dont wana go and shorten the life span of the motor now do we.

[Spartan]

Ok so spend the time with the aftermarket setup and the reward will be sweet, I can say the very same about the standard ECU system. Give it what it needs and you will have a bullet proof system, great fuel consumption that is unmatched and NO running to put it on a dyno every month. The Ausies are big into these motors and they all get together on Toymods forum, most of them run it stock with standard ECU and go as far to shorten the waste gate on them. No need to do more. We dont wana go and shorten the life span of the motor now do we.

Whatever, ek sien noueers waar het jy kers opgesteek so moet nie worry om te reply nie

[DOELLOOS]

Jis, maar dit lyk BAIE goed...well done... Kannie wag om te se wat hy op die wiele stoot nie...

[Mr_B]

Spartan! Tie me kangaroo's down sport!

[redhummer]

Looking good Derrick.. Will be a very nice runner once it is all done.. Just a friendly note on the management side of things.. Be careful on here as some people will shout you down for deciding to put OEM management. Why they are so into making a motor work harder, rather than just putting in a motor that puts out the power they require in the first place is just beyond me.. I would say it is compromising reliability for performance. As well as there being a relation of fuel consumption vs power, energy cant be created so it is in direct relation of fuel mixture, more air must have more fuel so it goes without saying more consumption. Personal preference I guess..
Looking forward to seeing the install of the shifter. Nice with the ECT power option with std. It will be a lot nicer with the OEM shifter.. Should fit the looks of the rest of the interior rather than it looking like it was made with scraps found around the place. Good thing you chatting to the guys overseas too.. They have a lot of information on all the motors and mods.. They started doing these mods while the SA guys were still stuck on ford v6's and now the 1uz non vvt..

[kfxnando]

Jis, maar dit lyk BAIE goed...well done... Kannie wag om te se wat hy op die wiele stoot nie...

would like to stick my neck out and say around 177rwhp, on a true dyno(have seen many happy dynos)
on the wheels with no correction factor, depending on the exhaust, maybe a little more!!
and the intercooler, not sure how that compares to the original intercooler......


so lets say between 177rwhp and 195rwhp

[Demon]

Ok so spend the time with the aftermarket setup and the reward will be sweet, I can say the very same about the standard ECU system. Give it what it needs and you will have a bullet proof system, great fuel consumption that is unmatched and NO running to put it on a dyno every month. The Ausies are big into these motors and they all get together on Toymods forum, most of them run it stock with standard ECU and go as far to shorten the waste gate on them. No need to do more. We dont wana go and shorten the life span of the motor now do we.

Whatever, ek sien noueers waar het jy kers opgesteek so moet nie worry om te reply nie

Lets rather just get along. You are into your setup and some of us into ours. What would life be if we all wanted the same thing. Stick around it could be fun

[Demon]

Looking good Derrick.. Will be a very nice runner once it is all done.. Just a friendly note on the management side of things.. Be careful on here as some people will shout you down for deciding to put OEM management. Why they are so into making a motor work harder, rather than just putting in a motor that puts out the power they require in the first place is just beyond me.. I would say it is compromising reliability for performance. As well as there being a relation of fuel consumption vs power, energy cant be created so it is in direct relation of fuel mixture, more air must have more fuel so it goes without saying more consumption. Personal preference I guess..
Looking forward to seeing the install of the shifter. Nice with the ECT power option with std. It will be a lot nicer with the OEM shifter.. Should fit the looks of the rest of the interior rather than it looking like it was made with scraps found around the place. Good thing you chatting to the guys overseas too.. They have a lot of information on all the motors and mods.. They started doing these mods while the SA guys were still stuck on ford v6's and now the 1uz non vvt..

Thanks man. Very happy with fit so far. Just the damn fire wall Nice to have a motor as new age as this one, dont think i would have gone for this swop if it was a old motor, would not make sence to fit sumthing from the stone age into a 2004 Hilux. 1jz vvti was in production up to 2007

[Demon]

Jis, maar dit lyk BAIE goed...well done... Kannie wag om te se wat hy op die wiele stoot nie...

Thanks dude. Will throw it on a dyno soon

[Demon]

Jis, maar dit lyk BAIE goed...well done... Kannie wag om te se wat hy op die wiele stoot nie...

would like to stick my neck out and say around 177rwhp, on a true dyno(have seen many happy dynos)
on the wheels with no correction factor, depending on the exhaust, maybe a little more!!
and the intercooler, not sure how that compares to the original intercooler......


so lets say between 177rwhp and 195rwhp

Will stick it on a dyno and see what the rwhp is

[Demon]

Jis, maar dit lyk BAIE goed...well done... Kannie wag om te se wat hy op die wiele stoot nie...

would like to stick my neck out and say around 177rwhp, on a true dyno(have seen many happy dynos)
on the wheels with no correction factor, depending on the exhaust, maybe a little more!!
and the intercooler, not sure how that compares to the original intercooler......


so lets say between 177rwhp and 195rwhp

Will have to see

[hentey]

Sorry for my ignorance,but in what car or suv does this type of engine come from?Surely it is not South African,or is it?

[BenHur]

Lexus Car with OE car map on the ECU now been used in a bakkie. If you look at most manifacturers that use the same enginje in a bakkie and car normally they have a different MAP for the ECUs in the different applications, a MAP for the car and another for the Bakkie... wonder why? ....

[Demon]

Sorry for my ignorance,but in what car or suv does this type of engine come from?Surely it is not South African,or is it?

The half cut that i got was the JZX 100 chasser. A Japan release only and grey imported by the Ausies. Was realeased in other makes like the mark ll supra and quite a number of others in Europe. Guys are using the 1jz over the 2jz in the UK these days. The 1jz-gte vvti has got the Yamaha reworked head, newly developed continuously variable valve timing mechanism (VVT-i) , modified water jackets for improved cylinder cooling and newly developed shims with a titanium nitride coating for reduced cam friction. The adoption of VVT-i and the improved cylinder cooling allowed the compression ratio to be increased from 8.5:1 to 9.0:1. Even though the official power figures remained at 280 metric horsepower (210 kW) at 6200 rpm, torque was increased by 20Nm to 379 newton metres (280 ft·lbf) at 2400rpm. These improvements resulted in increased engine efficiency that reduced fuel consumption by 10%.

[Demon]

Lexus Car with OE car map on the ECU now been used in a bakkie. If you look at most manifacturers that use the same enginje in a bakkie and car normally they have a different MAP for the ECUs in the different applications, a MAP for the car and another for the Bakkie... wonder why? ....

Its nice to have the full vvti matie. It adjusts to my driving conditions

You should take a spin in Redhummers lexus v8 hilux and find out how well that thing runs with the stock ECU. The auto gear change is spot on and its good on fuel.

[BenHur]

I have never said that a stock ECU will not run nice, if not in limp mode, and fuel consuption be good, but good is a relative term, is it as good as it can be? That is the question.

I have seen a few cars already where we have beaten the dyno figures as well as onroad economy with an aftermarket over OE.

But again I am not trying to knock OE only saying that you guys should not knock aftermarket as either, both has its place and to call a decently installed and mapped aftermarket system inferior is outright ignorance.

[BenHur]

BTW are you installing the OE exhaust that the ECU was mapped for as well?

[Mr_B]

... ag nee... here we go again... :evil:

[DOELLOOS]

To each his own...

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Scorpion]

Demon, it looks awesome! I can't wait to see what your (soon to be) monster will be capable of. Keep the pic's and updates coming!

[redhummer]

Yip..all to his own... Just as a correction.. The oem exhaust is different to the one that you buy at speedy or any other aftermarket shop.. When people send there cars into a shop to get an exhaust replacement they do not change to aftermarket management.. I wonder why......Or do I.. The OEM system corrects itself all the time according to driving condition and emission.. Auto adjust....hmmmm. Sounds very reliable and intelligent for a management system.
There are some nice aftermarket systems out there. People can choose what they like and use it themselves.. Not try and change everybody around them as they have there opinion about things for there reasons.. Now this is a thread with a bit of a difference. Lets check it out as it is interesting and could be enlightening for some.. The ones that do not like the thread really do not have to read it. Why does it always have to turn into an argument?

[Demon]

Thanks for the comments guys. Ya geez lets all rather just shut up about the ECUs

[Demon]

Got the platform templates done for the motor and gearbox last night

[Demon]

Got to use the gell filled agent mounts Great now it wont feel like im driving a gokart with those mounts in

[Demon]

The gear shifter arm is going to miss the box It still has to move back so its going to give even more space. Had to relocate the gear box harnes for a bit more space on the tunnel. Been thru every part of the drive chain and no touching anywhere

[Demon]

Have to build a platform for the gear box because on the Hilux box the mounts sat under and not on the side like the 1Js box.

[Demon]

Going to weld gusets on the inside of the front mounts once I get it back from the laser cutting guys.

[Demon]

Thort i wud up date my thread. Man what fun this has been so far
Hows that the throtel cable from the half cut was a direct bolt on, correct lenth and all now

[Demon]

Got the wiring sorted in the engine bay, had to move alternator wires to the other side of the cab. At least the starter is on the same side as the 3rz so it was straight on

[Demon]

Got the templets made up for the dry sump

[Demon]

Got hold of a nice bosch 3 stage fan but it dont fit

[Demon]

Got hold of two smaller stocky fans today. No cutting to get them in

[Demon]

They fitted snug behind the intercooler