Vehicle Theft

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:33 am

Recently there has been a major increase in vehicle theft.

Just last week the thieves tried to steal my mates Lux, resulting in 70k worth of damage.

What good idea's are there, besides parking my vehicle in safer places? ie DIY, relay's etc

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:15 pm

The deployment of a dozen or more spring-guns come to mind!

There is a couple of DIY tracking systems (via cellphone) that I'm looking at .... if you find a good one, let me know.

Gertc · Post by **Gertc** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:36 pm

Mud Dog wrote:The deployment of a dozen or more spring-guns come to mind!

Works like a charm. Mine hit a hole in the sump. then you just follow the oil trail. 1km and you will find your Hilux. just follow the trail.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:28 pm

My cousin fitted a relay into my previous vehicle, connected to my aircon and starter. So if you did'nt switch the aircon on the vehicle would not start.

Worked like a charm

But I am thinking more MD way, to get 380 volt under the seat

Gertc · Post by **Gertc** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:20 pm

MMMMM and if the system malfunction while you are in the vehicle

then it is

ZZZZIT toket

Post by **CasKru** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:43 pm

I installed a relay system with proximity switches. So if you do not know to activate the switch, the motor will just keep cranking and wont start. I also have an alarm system which if not disengaged, will not allow the fuel pump to run and the ECU to switch on.

My next project is mechanical in the sense that the should not be able to tow it etc....

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:26 pm

Yes Cas, I have also heard of a system that lock's the brakes, not sure if these guys are still aroun?

Anyone know?

Thabogrobler · Post by **Thabogrobler** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:27 pm

OOOOMS wrote:Yes Cas, I have also heard of a system that lock's the brakes, not sure if these guys are still aroun?

Anyone know?

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Dadz Toy BFI · Post by **Dadz Toy BFI** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:31 pm

CasKru wrote:I installed a relay system with proximity switches. So if you do not know to activate the switch, the motor will just keep cranking and wont start. I also have an alarm system which if not disengaged, will not allow the fuel pump to run and the ECU to switch on.

My next project is mechanical in the sense that the should not be able to tow it etc....

Cass' from what I've just learnt with my Dicktator's Relay going belly up.......

Just unplug the Relay - chances of even the smartest theif having the correct relay is slimmer than a slim thing

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:59 pm

Quite slim, of you to figure that out..... :!:

:!:

Thanks T.

Post by **CasKru** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:49 pm

Dadz Toy BFI wrote:
CasKru wrote:I installed a relay system with proximity switches. So if you do not know to activate the switch, the motor will just keep cranking and wont start. I also have an alarm system which if not disengaged, will not allow the fuel pump to run and the ECU to switch on.

My next project is mechanical in the sense that the should not be able to tow it etc....

Cass' from what I've just learnt with my Dicktator's Relay going belly up.......

Just unplug the Relay - chances of even the smartest theif having the correct relay is slimmer than a slim thing

I effectively do the same just with less effort. I believe in systems that automatically arm themselves. It's usually when you are in a hurry and think you'll be back in 5 minutes, when the bakkie disappears.

Post by **LouisZ** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:02 am

Maybe install a cage with mamba on the driver seat, whole story to open the door without opening the cage door, and it is out there is groot nonsens. Just put a sign in the window warning anyone "Mamba in transit, do not open doors.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:16 pm

So lyk hy nou...

Post by **Mud Dog** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:35 pm

YOH! Mark, looks like you're getting serious, boet!

I don't know what it's called exactly, but it's a 12v contactor switch that works like a relay but will only "kick in" when it is energised AND triggered. It remains a closed circuit until de-energised. Now what about putting this behind the dash with a 12v gate motor reciever to "trigger" it (obviously with a remote). So when you get in, you turn the ignition on and push the remote ... only then do the dash lights come on and you can start. Once you switch off you cannot start it again without the remote as everything is dead.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:25 pm

Something like that sounds quite nice. Gertc seems to be quite jacked up with this kind of thing. I will give him a a shout.

Don't think it's too difficult, but could be wrong?

ps. the last few attempted theafts they have done ie: pop out the indicatoe light(the one under the mirror), create a short, force open the bonnet, disconnect the alarm and then into the dash/ignition.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:17 pm

Keep us posted on your progress Mark. It'll be interesting to see what you've opted for.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:11 am

BenHur · Post by **BenHur** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:13 pm

I do not like to share to much info regarding my security on a public forum, would be Hilux thiefs can also come register here and read about all your tricks. The best ones are the ones you keep quiet about :!: :!: :!:

Post by **Family_Dog** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:29 pm

Bennie, no worry about that, your red Hilux is extremely safe!

(They would first have to fix it before they could steal it....)

-F_D

frik · Post by **frik** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:15 pm

I am currently here up North in Mozambique and reading this thread I have to share something with your guys. You know protecting your vehicle against the elements is a story but if you could see what I have seen up here.
There are more Cruisers and Hiluxes up here than what you could imagine.

A very good friend of mine living in Moz Nampula told me last week he can get me any cruiser or lux I want just bring the money. And I dont mean going to the one and only Toyota dealer up here north.

Our biggest problem is the aftermarket for out vehicles and if border control doesnt do something none of our vehicles are safe anymore.
Must just find a way to bring one new Cruiser back home :D

Have a nice time in SA

Frik

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:53 pm

Just this week my other mates, 3.0 d4d, 4x4 2009 almost got nicked.

Same mo: Via the small indicator light (near front door), forced open the bonnet with a wrench, and started stripping the dash. Luckily not taken, however R22 000.00 damage!

Spoke to a tow-truck oke I know today, he tells me he tow's approx. 15 d4d's a WEEK, to the yard.

So I have a surprise for the thugs when they pop out my small indicator light...., also moved the alarm bell where is will not be accessable as they cut the wires.

Spikevz · Post by **Spikevz** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:11 am

Take off your door handles like me

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:39 am

Spikevz wrote:Take off your door handles like me

The last thing these thugs need is door handles, believe me!

Dadz Toy BFI · Post by **Dadz Toy BFI** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:43 am

Take a look here at this Non Lethal Deterrent

I'm seriously considering this one mos

see:

http://www.chillipepper.za.com/home.html

R

Bloues · Post by **Bloues** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:45 am

@%^&%(^*&!q skelms.......
Onthou net indien jy toestel het wat uitsny jy moontlik 'n voertuig kan terugkry wat stukkend gestamp is omdat dit in die middel van besigge interseksie of so gaan staan het.......daar mag moontlikke wet aspekte wees soos "opset" so ek hou meer van die toestel wat jou voertuig nooit laat aansluit. Laat hul maar probeer daar waar jy hom parkeer het. Dan stem ek saam dat ons moet nie teveel "uiter" van geheime toestelle want soos Bennie se - die "nerwe" lees ook die goed.

Stuur miskien private mail as iemand goeie idee het.

ps: ek hou van die mamba idee......maak sommer seker dis swart mamba wat honger is !!!!!

Karoo · Post by **Karoo** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:22 pm

Am led to believe rat poison in a brandy bottle left in the car works like a charm!

wacky · Post by **wacky** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 4:15 pm

let man's best friend drive with u : Rottweiler

Spikevz · Post by **Spikevz** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:24 pm

Let me know if advise helps you 2.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:02 am

Tx Pieter, dankie vir die advies.

Mountain Man · Post by **Mountain Man** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:29 pm

In the old days we only locked our cars and that was good enough to stop most would be thieves. If someone wanted your vehicle they would take it and that was that. But as time went on some clever dick thought an alarm system would be a fab idea. But crooks are usually not that far behind in learning the new tricks of the trade and finding out how to bypass the alarm system was next. But as alarms got more complicated the criminals turned to other ways to relieve you of your vehicle. They would simply steal it from you in the driveway so the alarm was not activated. But then some other clever dick thought he would design a anti hijack device. This of course was easily remedied by the thieves and they would simply take you hostage and drive arround with you in the boot of the vehicle while they wait to see if the vehicle has a anti hijacking system. This same system is used to asertain if a vehicle has a tracking systme with some variation... They rape your wife in from of you and torture your kids and eventually kill everyone. So my point is this: We will NOT stop thieves from getting what they want. This is unfortunatly a sad but very true fact. Each and every device that we come up with has been overcome by more and more violent means but the criminals. This same is true with our homes: We have these fancy alarms and sensors in our houses and now instead of breaking into our houses whilst we are out, now the criminals target us when we are most likely to be at home. This leaves us trapped in our homes and in a very vulnerable position. Please check the crime stats and see most beak ins occur from 5pm onward.

So what is my point?

Well, we may be going to such great lengths to protect our vehicles but in the end it is costing us our lives. It is a bit of a catch 22 situation because insurance companies are insisting on these devices before insuring.

I don't know where to from here but know this: what the criminals want they WILL get and at whatever cost even your life.

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:59 am

Kan iemand my asb pm met die beste idee om my Hilux te laat bly daar waar ek hom los??

Hi-Hilux · Post by **Hi-Hilux** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:34 am

Julle sal my nie glo nie maar in Nam is ons "mense" nog nie so slim nie, dalk in Whk, maar hier in Tsumeb slaap my hilux buite (daar is nie plek in garage vir hom nie, ander karre ook)met vensters en deure oop..selfs by pick n pay of spar....ja hulle sal jou radio steel maar nie sommer kar nie.regtig self as ek in henties is. Maar dit sal nie vir altyd so wees nie...siektes versprei.

Wat is die gevoel van julle wat al in Nam getoer het? Dalk is dit anders vir "Toeriste"? As ek nou daar aan dink my huis se agter deur staan nou oop en daar is niemand behalwe my 2 boerboele.
Maar soos ek se ons tyd/beurt sal seker ook kom

Post by **CasKru** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:49 am

Traveler wrote:Kan iemand my asb pm met die beste idee om my Hilux te laat bly daar waar ek hom los??

Volgens my is die self installed opsies altyd die beste.

Hi-Hilux · Post by **Hi-Hilux** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:52 am

Ek dwaal nou erg van die toppic af maar wil graag wys, daar is geen diewering by venster of agter deur nie. Okay nou sal ek weer by die topic bly

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:04 am

So, this afternoon my beaty sleep was interrupted by my mate's (Chris - aka jenco) irate phone call! (he has had his van for 3 weeks, 2008 D4D 3.0l now...)

Guess what? (he says)
I was at my son's kricket match in Randburg this morning and some &*%$@#% tried to steal my van.......same method as all the others :!: :!: :!:

Same mo: Via the small indicator light (near front door), forced open the bonnet with a wrench, and started stripping the dash. Luckily not taken

Lots of damage....

So guys.....keep a close eye on you Lux, they are hot property

Spartan · Post by **Spartan** » Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:15 am

Maar ons mag nie kwaad word nie want dan is jy mos n

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :wth: :wth: :wth: :wth: en jy mag ook nie jou eie hard verdiende goed beskerm nie dit is nie aanvaarbaar nie :wth: :wth: :wth: :wth: :wth: :wth: Ek dink ek moet maar net

2.8 d/cab SFA · Post by **2.8 d/cab SFA** » Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:10 am

i agree u upgrade the thieves upgrade, last time they tried to steal my lux, which has modern alarm, it cost me new ignition, and a sunday call out by a lock smith. So is it really worth it?

Bandit · Post by **Bandit** » Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:08 am

From a personal point and experience,
A thin wood chisel, nice and sharp, placed under the driver seat with the handle on the floor and the blade just pushing the seat fabric up has had great deterrent consequences, also leaves a nice blood trail to follow, and usually doesn't mean walking a kilometer following oil trail.
Also found a well insured vehicle with a half kilo of C4 in the cab gives a nice controlled, satisfactory result. Can also hook up the indicator wires from positive battery into detonator and leave the earth loose. When they pop the indicator out and try and cause a short...
Multiple small fish hooks soldered on behind a car radio also leaves a lasting impression...

Paul Grobler · Post by **Paul Grobler** » Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:28 am

Daryl

Die vishoek idee werk soos n bom veral in n Golf jy kry die mo$r die volgende oggend net daar waar hy begin het dan help jy hom om hom self los te ruk Wat n gesig om te sien

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:02 pm

Here is a pic or two of Jenco's van....

chopper · Post by **chopper** » Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:07 pm

Dit maak 'n mens hartseer - en m@erig! :evil:

Paul Grobler · Post by **Paul Grobler** » Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:23 pm

Mark

Dit maak n ou moerig en als

:evil:

Die beste wat ek al gesien het in n ou oom se Toyota stalion was dat hy van n plug draad af n draad gele het wat na die drywer seat toe gaan deur n skakelaar dan het hy in die seat klomp fyn draadjies deur geweef en aan die draad gekoppel wat van die plug draad af kom sodra die ou gaan sit en die enjin start begin hy te skok en weet nie van waar af nie en dit werk blykbaar goed die bakkie stink net bietjie daarna

8 )

Marius Murray · Post by **Marius Murray** » Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:47 pm

My broer werk vir Outsurance en hy reken hulle steel nou meer nuwe Luxes en Frotuners as Citigolfs!!

Hy reken hulle kry tot 5 eise per week nou op julle favourite! En ek het gedink daai stelsel wat Toy gebruik is .......proof!?!

chopper · Post by **chopper** » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:57 pm

Marius,
Dis geen verskoning om nie 'n Lux te besit nie! :wth:

Spartan · Post by **Spartan** » Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:25 pm

Bandit wrote:From a personal point and experience,
A thin wood chisel, nice and sharp, placed under the driver seat with the handle on the floor and the blade just pushing the seat fabric up has had great deterrent consequences, also leaves a nice blood trail to follow, and usually doesn't mean walking a kilometer following oil trail.
Also found a well insured vehicle with a half kilo of C4 in the cab gives a nice controlled, satisfactory result. Can also hook up the indicator wires from positive battery into detonator and leave the earth loose. When they pop the indicator out and try and cause a short...
Multiple small fish hooks soldered on behind a car radio also leaves a lasting impression...

Paul Grobler wrote:Die vishoek idee werk soos n bom veral in n Golf jy kry die mo$r die volgende oggend net daar waar hy begin het dan help jy hom om hom self los te ruk Wat n gesig om te sien

Ek wil julle graag ontmoed julle klink vir my soos my broers wat ek verloor het lank lank terug, maar ek dink ek het julle gevind

Ek raak net meer gatvol by die dag. :evil: :evil: :evil:

Paul Grobler · Post by **Paul Grobler** » Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:03 pm

Hi Spartan

In die 4 maande van kersfees af tot nou het hulle al amper
R 100 000.00 se pompe, tools, batterye en al twee keer in my bakkie in gebreek op die plaas so ek en Kas ( Fortuner) is al taamlik gatvol vir die sirkus. Hulle is al so laks dat hulle my energizer vir my stoor heining ook een aand gesteel het

:evil:

Ons is meer as g@atvol!

Spartan · Post by **Spartan** » Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:09 pm

Ek sal nou die threat moet verlaat want my hart sal dit nie hou nie

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:51 pm

Skydive
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Re: Adrenaline Rush
Die was amper die laaste foto van my Hilux, hulle het die bakkie so uur terug probeer steel, gelukkig het die 2.7 ignition met die chipped sleutel dit so bietjie moeiliker gemaak, maar het nogsteeds redelik skade

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FUDGES · Post by **FUDGES** » Sat May 08, 2010 6:28 pm

Sal iemand vir my ook PM wat is die beste om Fudges te beskerm??? Ek is maar dom met die goed

Of my na iemand toe verwys wat my sal kan help asb.

Numbnut · Post by **Numbnut** » Sun May 09, 2010 3:07 am

Kan iemand my ook net dalk n PM stuur oor wat die veiligste manier is om die nuwe spaarwiel onder my bakkie te beskerm teen
die regering se private invorderaars??

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sun May 09, 2010 10:08 am

The guys that do this kind of thing rely on speed ..... get it out and be gone .... The easiest way is to just put a padlock through a link in the winch chain up near the top so that the chain cannot be lowered. The downfall of this is that the lock might get fouled with dust and dirt, even rust .... you might not be able to open the lock or even get the key in when you need the spare. So it needs to be protected in some way .... grease it well over the key-hole and around the shackle to prevent the dirt getting in.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Sun May 09, 2010 11:18 am

Mud Dog wrote:The guys that do this kind of thing rely on speed ..... get it out and be gone .... The easiest way is to just put a padlock through a link in the winch chain up near the top so that the chain cannot be lowered. The downfall of this is that the lock might get fouled with dust and dirt, even rust .... you might not be able to open the lock or even get the key in when you need the spare. So it needs to be protected in some way .... grease it well over the key-hole and around the shackle to prevent the dirt getting in.

Andy, I use insulation tape(wrapped around the lock), works like a charm and keeps the key enry dust free. Prestic also works

Post by **JohanM** » Sun May 09, 2010 8:45 pm

The best anti theft device for a 4x4 Toyota is to take it off road and to do overland remote travel.......

Hulle het nie die tyd om 3 dae agter jou aan te ry net om weer 3 dae te moet terug ry na die naaste beskawing nie.........

M2cw....

Numbnut · Post by **Numbnut** » Sun May 09, 2010 10:56 pm

Thanx MD & Ooooms, will try the padlock thing, even if it is just for extra peace of mind! Will fill a plastic "bank sakkie" with a mixture
of grease and oil, place the padlock inside and then tape it close with insulation tape as if it is Julius Malema's big gob!!

:D

Rieks · Post by **Rieks** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:28 am

Hulle het my Saterdag 'n kolega van my se seun se Hilux probeer steel by The Glen in die suide van JHB.
Hier in sy woorde:
" Hulle het Saterdag my seun se Toyota by die Glen probeer steel en gelukkig het die Sekuriteit hulle gevang toe hulle besig was om uit ry, omdat die stuurwiel weer gelock het nadat hulle hom met 'n bobbejaan afgebreek het, weet nie hoe nie, maar as dit nie gebeur het nie was die Bakkie weg.

Hulle bring hulle eie computer bokse, immobiliser en ' boks wat sê "Turbo Driver" en plug dit in die plek van die oorspronklikes. Hulle het dan ook hulle eie ignition en sleutel en start so die bakkie. Al probleem is dat hulle eers die bonnet oop buig om by die alarm uit te kom. Hierna strip hulle jou hele dash om by die computer uit te kom en natuurlik vir die tracker te soek.

Ek het op die Internet gaan kyk, en ek sien dat die Toyota Bakkies en Fortuners hoog op sindikate se lys is. Hulle steel die bakkies vinnig en by baie winkel sentrums, nogal baie by Eastgate ook en dit in die onderdak parkering. "

Die Bl1ksems het weg gekom. Die sekuriteits wag was glo te bang om hulle aan te vat to hy sien wat aangaan. Hulle het in die "getaway" kar ingespring en weg gejaag. Volgens die paneel kloppers is die beraamde skade sover R64 000.00

Hartseer foto's

Rieks · Post by **Rieks** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:35 am

Die vraag is, hoe kan ons dit verhoed?? Behalwe om jou lux in die garage te hou natuurlik. Daar moet 'n manier wees om dit vir hulle moeilik te maak. Maar mens wil dit doen voordat daar erger skade aan jou motor gedoen word.

Soos ek my kolega verstaan, lyk dit of hulle eerste die bonnet oop gebreuk het. Ek het gedink om my bonnet vas te swys (is mos 'n Toyota, daai bonnet gaan inelkgeval net oop as iemand my V6 engine wil sien posting.php?mode=reply&f=8&t=12985#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; )

Ek het ook gelees van om die serene's te skuif, maar dan is die bonnet klaar oopgebreuk! Is daar enige iets anders wat ons kan doen??

macjohnw · Post by **macjohnw** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:00 am

Die booswigte weet waar die standaard wegsteek plekke is vir trackers, alarms, sirenes ens. en ken alarm sisteme. Wees kreatief in die ligging asook die beskerming van die items. Dit is egter moeilik met die tracker eenhede.

Die ouens verwag hi-tech elektroniese sisteme - wat van n' goeie ou boereplan - elektronies of meganies. n' skakelaar op n' kraglyn erens wat jy van binne die kajuit kan aan of af skakel - of dalk n' kraan op die brandstof lyn. Hulle sal dink dit is een of ander nuwe tipe alarm stelsel.

n' Tweede passiewe tracker eenheid (sleuth) kan ook help.

Shimano · Post by **Shimano** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:43 am

Ek was twee weke terug met verlof en het gou my ouers in Alberton gaan groet en het ook sommer gou by die Glen se "outdoor warehouse" n draai gaan maak vir n upgrade op my Garmin se mapping en die verkoops man het my vertel hoe die Fortuners en Hilux's daar gesteel word. Was skoon op my senuwees gewees en kon nie wag om daar weg te kom met die nuwe Fortuner nie.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:19 pm

Rieks, die D4D's is al vir 'n lang ruk hot property....... :x

Jy is heeltemal reg om te noem dat hulle moet gestop word voordat hulle probeer steel. Maar dit is maar moeilik.... hier is nog 'n link wan die soort van ding...

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PM my vir nog informasie. Ons wil dit nie eintlik op die Forum bespreek nie, want die 'ander' b......s lees ook hier

sabiankahn · Post by **sabiankahn** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:04 pm

Wow, so dit is verseker nie meer soos in die flieks waar iemand net 2 draadjies onder die dash uithaal en die kar "Hotwire" nie. Dit lyk na 'n moerse klomp moeite om 'n kar te steel...

Jammer oor die skade :-(