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We live in such an exciting time. I just love all the new technology and development at the moment.

Many companies have been yapping about Autopilot for vehicles, but it finally is a reality.

I received this email from Tesla this morning.
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It was bound to happen, they've been at it for decades in some form or other starting with cruise control in the late 70's. The electronic age has speeded it up and made it possible. Would I trust it? .... Maybe not just yet. :D:
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Saw an article earlier this week about the insurance implications of these new systems.

Some wide ranging potential implications !!


On the one end there are liability issues - "who" causes the accident, and where does the liability stop ??

But the tests of over some 2,5 million killometers have had very FEW accidents, to the point where the article suggested that insurance claims would drastically DECREASE .... causing all kinds of other ripples in the industry.



interesting times indeed ...
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It was bound to happen
Yes, just think nobody up to date had the guts to take it life.
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And probably with good reason, Pieter. Can you imagine the liability if any of the electronic gadgetry fails! :eh:

But then I suppose that they can build in a backup that takes over and warns the user that the primary unit failed and needs to be replaced / repaired. That way liability can be passed to the user unless both units fail at the same time, which is unlikely but not impossible. :think:
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Mud Dog wrote:And probably with good reason, Pieter. Can you imagine the liability if any of the electronic gadgetry fails! :eh:

But then I suppose that they can build in a backup that takes over and warns the user that the primary unit failed and needs to be replaced / repaired. That way liability can be passed to the user unless both units fail at the same time, which is unlikely but not impossible. :think:
but the user would have to proove both fialed at the same time ... IF he survives for the re-boot .... :o: :naah:


I am NOT a good passanger ....
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BMW to deploy 40 self-driving cars in US, Europe .....

http://firstthing.dailymaverick.co.za/a ... G6qOXYxDxU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Can it pass the moose test.
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ChrisF wrote:I am NOT a good passanger ....
And herein lies my problem as well.... :naah:
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Check out the video on this page on a Tesla predicting an accident and stopping in time.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/tesla- ... d=44437198" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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pietpetoors wrote:Check out the video on this page on a Tesla predicting an accident and stopping in time.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/tesla- ... d=44437198" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Maar wat hulle nie vertel nie is die paar gevalle wat die stelsel ongelukke veroorsaak het.

Ek weet van een waar 'n ou dood is omdat die kar onder 'n trok in is. Bleikbaar a.g.v. 'n paar faktore het die kar nie die trok "gesien" nie
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jong ..... ons HET mos nou al gesien teen watter spoed elektronika verbeter ....

EN, ons het mos ook al die berge ou elektroniese rommel gesien ....

ek is SEKER dat die self-drive karre spoedig hier sal wees .... hoop net dat ek hulle re-boot foute kan vryspring .....
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Cassie die een waar die ou dood is, het die ou te vinnig gery en hy het nie sy hande op die stuurwiel gesit toe die sisteem hom herhaaldelik gewaarsku het nie. Die sisteem was toe nog in toetsfase. "Hulle" het dus net vertel van die ongeluk, maar nie die volle verhaal nie.
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pietpetoors wrote:Cassie die een waar die ou dood is, het die ou te vinnig gery en hy het nie sy hande op die stuurwiel gesit toe die sisteem hom herhaaldelik gewaarsku het nie. Die sisteem was toe nog in toetsfase. "Hulle" het dus net vertel van die ongeluk, maar nie die volle verhaal nie.
Die ou het nie sy hande op die stuurwiel gehad nie maar die ondersoek op die blackbox het getoon dat die kar die fout gemaak het in dat die radar en kameras ens nie dieselfde gesien het nie en toe nie die kar gebriek het nie.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016 ... ident.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Dan is daar die geval van die Chinese ou wat se kar wat onder 'n Road Sweeper in is wat hy nie gesien het nie....
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/15/busin ... .html?_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Dit is onmoontlik vir die developers om vooraf aan al die moontlikhede te dink wat die stelsel kan tee kom en elektriese komponente het 'n failure rate.

Al wat ek sê is ek sal eerder self bestuur as wat ek in 'n kar ry wat bestuur word
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Imagine sending your car to get itself serviced :lmao:
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wim wrote:Imagine sending your car to get itself serviced :lmao:

I have no doubt it will become a reality in time. Better still will be that if the vehicle is stolen or hijacked that it locks everyone in the car, locks everyone out of the controls and drives to the nearest police station, sounding an alarm when it gets there. :D:
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n Vriend het een van die VW produkte met "adaptive cruise control" - daai wat als rondom monitor en self afslek, selfs stop ens ....


wanneer dit werk is dit impressive !!

MAAR, ek was al te veel in daai kar wat daai liggies foute gewys het terwyl daar geen fout was nie .....

nee wat, hulle het nog so bietjie "development" om te doen ....


PS - iets soos n R100k net vir die boks wat daai stelsel beheer !!!!! dis nie eens al die sensors wat saam met die stelsel praat nie ....
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onthou ook dat die Tesla ongeluk ons mooi gewys het hoe die motor industrie nou KAN kyk wat gebeur het voor n ongeluk .....

Selfs my RAV se handleiding is baie duidelik dat Toyota EERS na die onboard geheue sal kyk voor warantee eise oorweeg sal word ....


Ek glo dis net tyd voor versekering eers die data wil sien voor hulle enige eise sal hanteer ......


Konsep het seker miriete ... maar wanneer gaan jy dan meer as 600cc se krag kan gebruik ....


okay. ten minste sal my brandstof verbruik verbeter .....
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Ek glo dis net tyd voor versekering eers die data wil sien voor hulle enige eise sal hanteer ......
Hulle doen dit reeds met sekere groot eise veral waar vermoed word dat hoë spoed oorsaak was.
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https://chargedevs.com/newswire/nhtsa-f ... lot-crash/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It was a tragic milestone: last May, Joshua Brown, “a friend to Tesla and the broader EV community,” became the first person to die in a crash that occurred while his Model S was in Autopilot mode.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Adminstration (NHTSA) made a full investigation into the circumstances of the accident, and has now announced its findings. The agency “did not identify any defects in the design or performance” of Autopilot, or “any incidents in which the systems did not perform as designed.” It also noted that the frequency of crashes involving Tesla vehicles declined by about 40 percent after the company introduced Autopilot.

NHTSA placed responsibility for the accident primarily on the driver. According to the report, Brown did not apply the brakes, and his last action was to set the cruise control at 74 miles per hour, less than two minutes before the crash.

The agency said the truck that Brown collided with should have been visible to him for at least seven seconds before impact. He “took no braking, steering or other actions to avoid the collision.”......
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No driver F1 becoming a reality?

http://newatlas.com/roborace-robocar-fu ... mwc/48234/
320 km/h, no driver: Roborace reveals the Robocar
With testing underway for the hotly-anticipated 2017 F1 season, you could be forgiven for forgetting about Roborace, the self-driving race series supporting Formula E. After a long gestation period, the as-yet unproven competition has finally revealed the car that teams will be programming, and it looks absolutely wild.

Designed by Daniel Simon, the automotive futurist behind the light cycles in Tron Legacy, the Robocar is a seriously sophisticated beast. Hidden within its dog-bone-shaped body are four 300-kW (402 hp) electric motors, enough to propel the carbon fiber-heavy (and therefore light) body to over 320 km/h (199 mph). It weighs just 975 kg (2,150 lb) and measures up at 4.8 meters (15.7 ft) long and 2 meters (6.6 ft) wide.

With no driver behind the wheel, there are plenty of sensors around the cars to stop them (hopefully) from bashing into each other. There are five LiDar, two radar, 18 ultrasonic and two optical speed sensors on the outside of the car, along with six cameras and a GNSS module. The whole array is powered by a Nvidia Drive PX2 brain, capable of dealing with up to 24 trillion AI operations every second. Each team will program the car with its own algorithm, making software the crucial differentiator in Roboraces.

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Imposing appearance and some interesting stats. Perhaps a long overdue platform to test and refine the whole auto-drive concept while not posing an immediate threat to human life.
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I drove a Tesla for a month in the USA. Has a brilliant auto pilot system that works well. All the glitches have been sorted out and the updates happen at night while you are sleeping. One guy drove 300 continuous miles in LA on auto pilot to prove a point. The owner of the car I used drives to work on auto pilot every morning and does his admin while on the way to office. A lot of the negative publicity on the Tesla auto pilot system has 3 sides to the story - my version, your version and the correct factual version. It is just very unnerving not to be in charge!
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