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The Super-Single cab

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:54 am
by Unreal K-ZN
Hi guys and girlsImage
Being a newby to this forum I would like to just start by saying thanks to all of you that have helped me with many answers on this forum before I joined. You guys are awesome.

My title, “Super-single cab” should say it all. I have a single cab, I want the super cab space for camping but I don’t wanna sell my Moose and have to go through all the mods again just for some extra cab space.
After much Captain and many brainstorming nights, as well as some crazy you tube time, I figured the only way to get the extra space would be to do what they do in Aus, build a new “bak” and add a canopy section.
The thing is, I don’t like the tray idea for my lifestyle and this seemed to be a critical elementImage so once again it was back to the Captain and the drawing board.
About half way to the bottom of my last dop, I came up with an idea that was almost too good to be trueImage so straight to google, Hilux forum, other forums, you tube, wiki, freakin anywhere I could think to find out if anyone, anywhere ImageImageImageImageImageImageImagehad undergone such a move before? There were many questions I had, and I could not find a single answer online. Maybe I searched the wrong things but I gave it my all until I just couldn’t be bothered searching anymore. I just had to dive in and try.

My idea is as follows. Step 1, remove single cab bin. 2, fit double cab bin. 3, fill the gap with the ultimate camping setup. 4, still look like a Hilux Image

Step 1 was easy of course, couple bolts and some wiring and Moose lost some weightImage
Step 2 was a bit more tricky due to only 4 of the 6 bolts lining up from the double cab bin to single cab chassis, but that’s easily remedied in step 3.
Step 3 is where I am at the moment in the build and I think I should mention that everything so far and to the end will be a bolt on application. I have not cut or welded anything on the chassis side of the build and nor will I. The idea is that if I wish, I can put the single cab bin back on at any given time with no mods needed.

Some pics so far for you guys, hope you enjoy them and I will post more on this thread as I go. Today I am planning to finish the “super” cab’s welding and grinding and maybe even get a coat of paint on itImage


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Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:44 am
by FIRSTGEER
Very brilliant idea. I like your way of thinking. Please keep us posted as your build progresses. I cannot wait to see the finished job

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:10 am
by Mud Dog
Awesome idea! :thumbup:
Keep us posted.

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:12 am
by Mud Dog
Maybe some gull-wing doors and a sliding tray on each side? :think:

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:40 pm
by Unreal K-ZN
Mud Dog wrote:Maybe some gull-wing doors and a sliding tray on each side? :think:
Without a doubt the full wings, one for the fridge slide on one side and the shower rose on the other one. Image



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Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:41 pm
by Unreal K-ZN
FIRSTGEER wrote:Very brilliant idea. I like your way of thinking. Please keep us posted as your build progresses. I cannot wait to see the finished job
Thanks a mill. It’s been quite a jol so far, looking forward to bolting it on Image


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Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:59 am
by pieta.swanepoel
Creative thinking. Like the idea and would not be as heavy as a fill tray style canopy

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:52 am
by Bear
Hi Gareth

I see the guys giving you credit for a job well done.

I was going say great stuff, very original. That is what engineering is!

And as I continued reading and you stated - “After much Captain” … “About half way to the bottom of my last dop”
I’m not sure if you deserve the credit for this work anymore.

Be a gentleman, give the credit to "CAPTAIN"

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:49 pm
by FIRSTGEER
Gareth another very important aspect of your project which I fully agree with,is to use the origonal mounting points on the chassis without welding and cutting anything on the chassis.
I have completed many projects over the years, including engine conversions and campers etc and have always applied this golden rule of keeping mounting points etc standard so one can always revert back to the standard vehicle setup should the need arise for whatever reason.
We are waiting in anticipation for further updates. :thumbup:

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:54 pm
by Unreal K-ZN
Bear wrote:Hi Gareth

I see the guys giving you credit for a job well done.

I was going say great stuff, very original. That is what engineering is!

And as I continued reading and you stated - “After much Captain” … “About half way to the bottom of my last dop”
I’m not sure if you deserve the credit for this work anymore.

Be a gentleman, give the credit to "CAPTAIN"
All due respect to Captain Henry Morgan. Image


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Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:55 pm
by Unreal K-ZN
FIRSTGEER wrote:Gareth another very important aspect of your project which I fully agree with,is to use the origonal mounting points on the chassis without welding and cutting anything on the chassis.
I have completed many projects over the years, including engine conversions and campers etc and have always applied this golden rule of keeping mounting points etc standard so one can always revert back to the standard vehicle setup should the need arise for whatever reason.
We are waiting in anticipation for further updates. :thumbup:
I agree, if this mission turns out to be a lemon, I can always drop my long bin back on and not have to worry about anything except for my loading bars which will just be lengthened again to suitImage


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Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:31 am
by Unreal K-ZN
Some work in progress pics. Please don’t judge my weldingImageImageImageImageImage[IMG]//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201910 ... d9a507.jpg[/IMG]ImageImageImageImageImageI am a carpenter by trade, not a welder, this job has taught me a lot about welding thoughImage


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Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:34 am
by Unreal K-ZN
Sorry about the random order. They appear to load in reverse Image

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Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:02 am
by Mud Dog
Looking good Gareth! :thumbup:

We can't all be professional welders, but with the will to give it a go and a little practise we can all make a go of it,. So what if you have to do a bit of grinding to smooth it off afterwards. :winkx:

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:54 pm
by Poffie
I agree with Mud Dog not all pretty welds is strong. Well done at least you can be proud you are doing it yourself. Nothing trumps that 💪🏼

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:10 pm
by Dowe Koos
Hi Gareth. I'm very keen to see your end product. So far, it's looking interesting on how you progress. I am going show you some photos to give you some ideas about basic welding. I mean it good, not in negative way.
First of all, I never grind off my welding for it is weakened the structure, ALWAYS. I will only grind off the weld where something flat must fit on and only that. Only weld where I will grind off is when I had V weld joint.
Top one is a gap of 1 mm, middle is normal joint and the bottom one is where the V is prepared.
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This is show you how the weld had penetrate through the plates.
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I haven't grind of the weld of all three plates.
Bending the V weld joint
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Bending the normal joint weld
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Bending the gap joint weld
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I had bend all three plates a few times.

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:15 pm
by Dowe Koos
Now I had grind off the weld.
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Bend the one with V joint
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Bend the one of normal joint
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Bend the one with gap joint
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Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:29 pm
by Dowe Koos
Bend the one with the V joint weld a few more times
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Bend the one with normal joint weld one more
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Bend the one with the V joint weld extra few more times
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Here you can see how important is your preparations.
Other important thing about arc weld is the heat. If you weld over and over the weld to fix it, it is weakened the metal composite and can give you problem when you do some over landing where it is getting rough. I understand that you are a carpenter and is not a welder. I would suggest to you to practice more on your weld so that your project is well done and will not give you problem later on.
Hoop nie ek is windgat nie, wil maar net help.
Sterkte met jou projek.

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:08 am
by Thabogrobler
Nee, Oom Hennie is nie windgat nie - hy weet darem so iets meer van welding as die gemiddelde ou op straat!

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:58 am
by Dowe Koos
Dankie Thabo.

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:50 pm
by Unreal K-ZN
Hi guys. Thanks for all your input and positive feedback. Progress a bit slow at the mo, work getting in the way of fun againImage

I have managed to paint the frame and fit the floor panel ally in, this let’s me get an idea of fridge slide positioning and batteries spacing. Gotta get some templates made so I can take the rest of the ally for bending.
Would love to get the skins on before December creeps up in low rangeImage

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Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:10 pm
by Mud Dog
Still looking good and slowly getting there, Gareth. Well done so far. :thumbup:

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:24 am
by Unreal K-ZN
A few pics. Progress been slow while waiting for the skins to arrive. Picked them up yesterday so I’m keen to get some action in the shop this weekend Image

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Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:26 pm
by Mud Dog
Beautifully neat! Keep it up! :thumbup:

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:42 pm
by pietpetoors
That is a great idea, I love it. Looking forward to see the end result.

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:54 am
by FIRSTGEER
Nice project so far Gareth.Classy workmanship.

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:26 am
by Unreal K-ZN
A few more pics after a few more evenings


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Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:28 am
by Unreal K-ZN
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I’m pushing to have it ready for the Xmas toy run through the valley of 1000 hills this December Image


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Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:13 am
by FIRSTGEER
You are almost there.Although the small finishing touches are the things that take time to complete.Great job.

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:08 am
by Mud Dog
Looking good! :thumbup:
Waiting to see what it all looks like together. :winkx:

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:35 am
by Unreal K-ZN
Been a busy weekend so far. Managed to get the dog box on the chassis and get the bin back on yesterday. Today is the task of reconnecting all wiring, fuel etc.
but for the first time I get to see what she is going to look likeImage

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Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:29 am
by Mud Dog
Love it ! :thumbup:

What are your intentions with this space?
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You could build a couple of boxes that bolt on from underneath to be used for tools or whatever. Can have separate door flaps or your main gull-wing doors can cover them. :winkx:

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:17 am
by Unreal K-ZN
Mud Dog wrote:Love it ! :thumbup:

What are your intentions with this space?
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You could build a couple of boxes that bolt on from underneath to be used for tools or whatever. Can have separate door flaps or your main gull-wing doors can cover them. :winkx:
Shot Mud DogImage
I had thought of putting two boxes in there for wet stuff and or dirty stuff like wetsuits or recovery straps so the mess won’t interfere with the clean space inside.
The other option is to put a recessed step into that space for swambo, she’s a bit shorter than me and the truck Image
Will just have to see what’s going to be best


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Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:54 am
by Mud Dog
Got the same problem with my wife, Gareth ... a real shorty. Problem with a step so far back it's an impractical off-set, and then also it's gonna look a bit odd if you drop it below the sill height. I would rather fit boxes and then do some sliders / side steps (full length) which are in any event below the sill height and so is more helpful as a step.

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:54 pm
by FIRSTGEER
I agree with you and Andy. Good place for even storing the potjie pot and recovery gear. I would also look and see if your second battery could possibly be mounted to free up space above it. Look at my camper build thread and so how I tried to utilize every possible hook and cranny.
Yours is a very unique and practical build. You'll see that after each outing you will possibly change and fine tune aspects of the build to suit your needs. I congratulate you on a job well done.👏👍

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:27 am
by Unreal K-ZN
Hi guys.
Nearing the end of phase 1. The dog-box is built and fitted.
Next up I need to test everything before doing all final coverings and touch ups and wiring.
After that it’s onto the bin mods next yearImage
And some boxes under the box
A few pics taken yesterday afternoon

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Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:21 am
by Mud Dog
Looking very good! Nice Job! :thumbup:

I hope you're still going to seal all the composite material to protect it from moisture. :winkx:

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:13 pm
by Family_Dog
Nicely done, Gareth. This truck will be something to really be proud of once you are done. :thumbup:


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Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:34 pm
by Dowe Koos
Very cool, love your idea Gareth.

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:58 am
by Unreal K-ZN
Thanks guys.
Final day today to get her ready for the 1000 hills Xmas toy run tomorrow.
90% done with 90% to go pretty much sums up my day ahead


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Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:08 pm
by FIRSTGEER
Enjoy your holiday and you can proudly display that superb and unique build of yours.Well done indeed :thumbup:

Re: The Super-Single cab

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:37 am
by FIRSTGEER
Howzit Gareth. I have been waiting to hear how your conversion build to your hilux performed during your December travels. Kindly post an update on your creation