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Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 6:19 am
by Bliksempie
Hello all,

Thought i'd share a few pics of my canopy. It took me three weekends to where it is now. I will add more pictures as the finishing touches are in place.
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Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 7:05 am
by Stef
Nice Robbie!

Is that 25 x 25 angle & tube?

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 7:27 am
by Bliksempie
Stef wrote: Tue May 02, 2017 7:05 am Nice Robbie!

Is that 25 x 25 angle & tube?
Stef,

Ja dit is, behalwe die boonste twee wat voor na agter loop is 30 x 30mm.

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 8:21 am
by Dowe Koos
Baie netjies, Robbie. Wil se jy is pro.

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 8:54 am
by Bliksempie
Dowe Koos wrote: Tue May 02, 2017 8:21 am Baie netjies, Robbie. Wil se jy is pro.
Dankie Hennie. Vir 'n ou wat destyds houtwerk op skool gehad het, verbaas ek myself elke keer al hoe meer.

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 11:08 am
by Obelix and Dogmatix
Robbie waar het jy daai deurskynende vensters gekry? en sal daai venters nie 'n diefstal risikoe wees nie ? al sal kan sien wat jy rond ry.

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 11:27 am
by Bliksempie
Obelix and Dogmatix wrote: Tue May 02, 2017 11:08 am Robbie waar het jy daai deurskynende vensters gekry? en sal daai venters nie 'n diefstal risikoe wees nie ? al sal kan sien wat jy rond ry.
By dieselfde plek as jou sin vir humor. :laugh2:

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 2:21 pm
by dalkill
i have run the thought in my head about building steel frame and galvanising it for protection.
since steel easier to weld (i could even do it myself albeit not very good), but i assume it's just for the weight factor that aluminium is preferred ?

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 2:43 pm
by Bliksempie
dalkill wrote: Tue May 02, 2017 2:21 pm i have run the thought in my head about building steel frame and galvanising it for protection.
since steel easier to weld (i could even do it myself albeit not very good), but i assume it's just for the weight factor that aluminium is preferred ?
True that. I have to ad that I did the fitment myself, without any help. The steel is not that heavy at all.

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 4:56 pm
by The Legend
Baie netjiese werk sover Robbie.

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:45 pm
by Froll
Lyk baie mooi sover Robbie. :thumbup: :thumbup:

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 6:50 am
by FIRSTGEER
Well done Robbie.I would have also built the frame out of steel.The light steel tubes are not that much heavier than aluminium tubes and a few kilograms extra on that sfa ain't gonna make much difference.
Can't wait to see the finnished project.

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 8:47 am
by niclemaitre
dalkill wrote: Tue May 02, 2017 2:21 pm i assume it's just for the weight factor that aluminium is preferred ?
Alu isn't as strong so you have to use thicker tubing than you would if you used steel. My steel framed, alu-clad canopy is hardly (~5-10kg) heavier than the equivalent alu one. Alu is just much more corrosion resistant.

I can also fix it in the middle of nowhere with a welding rod and a car battery.

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 4:04 pm
by dax021
Robbie, what wall thickness tube did you use? Also if you don't mind, could you post some more photo's detailing the window openings and the upright sections. I might want to copy your design, if you don't mind.

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 12:37 pm
by Obelix and Dogmatix
ek weet daar is updated foto's beskibaar so waar is hulle?

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 5:50 am
by Bliksempie
dax021 wrote: Sat May 06, 2017 4:04 pm Robbie, what wall thickness tube did you use? Also if you don't mind, could you post some more photo's detailing the window openings and the upright sections. I might want to copy your design, if you don't mind.
Peter, the thickness i used was 2mm mild steel. Unfortunately these are the only pics as already uploaded. Difficult to elaborate on the design, as the final product is merely out of pure luck. Everything started with an idea... and the built just ended up as it is.

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 6:01 am
by Bliksempie
Obelix and Dogmatix wrote: Sun May 07, 2017 12:37 pm ek weet daar is updated foto's beskibaar so waar is hulle?
Ja tog. Hier is nog 'n paar nuwes. Ek sal volgende naweek die kant deurtjies se slotte insit. Hierdie afglope naweek was net te kort. Mens moet so bietjie braai ook intussen.
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Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 7:08 am
by FIRSTGEER
Looks stunning.I really like the colour of your Hilux as well.

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 7:36 am
by Dowe Koos
Baie netjies, Robbie. Gaan jy binnekant ook uitle. Wil dit graag sien.

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 9:02 am
by niclemaitre
dax021 wrote: Sat May 06, 2017 4:04 pm Robbie, what wall thickness tube did you use? Also if you don't mind, could you post some more photo's detailing the window openings and the upright sections. I might want to copy your design, if you don't mind.
I have a complete CAD drawing of mine if you want it. Dunno if it'll fit on your load bin, I've got the "import" bin with the lights at the sides, not under the tail gate and the dimensions are slightly different.

Put a plank on the roof to get the height measurement. I used a big square to get the angle of the sides (20 deg I think). I'd recommend building a wooden jig to get the roof tubing of the canopy in the correct position. Because it's not a rigid rectangle but has one open end, it wants to twist out of shape a lot. Short, well spaced welds will help keep it true.

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 9:48 am
by pietpetoors
Looks stunning, well done !

Dalkill -
i have run the thought in my head about building steel frame and galvanising it for protection.
since steel easier to weld (i could even do it myself albeit not very good), but i assume it's just for the weight factor that aluminium is preferred ?
With Alu you will probably use a tube with 3mm wall thickness. On steel frame with cladding I will easily sommer use tubing with 1.6 wall thickness. In the end the weight will be almost the same. As long as you galvanize the steel you will be fine. If you are up north like Robbie, just a proper paint job will do.
Steel tube can handle vibrations much better than alu tube.

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 9:56 am
by Stef
38 x 38 x 2 Alu should be fine...in conjunction with 38 x 20 x 2
for 25mm I'd say go 3mm wall

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 10:12 am
by pietpetoors
Ha Ha, hierie kan 'n baie lang debat raak.

The uprights are so short (only about 450mm) and the force mostly downward, in my opinion 1.6 will be fine. For the roof, if you plan to load stuff onto the roof one can use thicker material, but remember span of the roof is only about 1.2 meter. Over that short distance you do not need very strong metal , but I agree that here a 1.6 wall might be a bit thin. If you need extra strength in the roof I will use a rectangular tubing of 50x25 and use it with the long side vertical.
Rectangular tubing is nice to use, it gives a more robust look and feel than 25mm SQR, so one might as well use it for both the strength and cosmetic factor.

If you are not a experienced welder, 2mm welds easier than 1.6 , but then again, these new inverter welders makes welding so much easier than the old transformer welders.

One of my criteria is the same as Robbie's, must be able to fit and remove it myself. Even my all alu canopy is about on the weight limit for fitting and removing it alone.

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 1:02 pm
by Bliksempie
Dowe Koos wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 7:36 am Baie netjies, Robbie. Gaan jy binnekant ook uitle. Wil dit graag sien.
Hennie,

Dit is die plan, ja. Al vier kant deure kry hul eie kassies vir onderskeidelik Breekware, Recovery gear ens. Binne wil ek graag die gewone (Fridge, Ammo box sliders) insit wat na agter uittrek.

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 1:40 pm
by Stef
pietpetoors wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 10:12 am Ha Ha, hierie kan 'n baie lang debat raak.

LOL...ek't bedoel met die aluminium saam; 1.6mm is piekfyn met mild steel

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 4:13 pm
by Bliksempie
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Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 8:13 am
by mcw
Haai Robbie


Baie mooi ,gaan jy nou jou boswa verkoop


Martin

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 5:37 am
by Bliksempie
mcw wrote: Sun May 14, 2017 8:13 am Haai Robbie


Baie mooi ,gaan jy nou jou boswa verkoop


Martin
Hi Martin,

Dis 'n negatief daar. Die boswa sal maar bly. Die canopy is maar net vir as ons Botswana of ander plekke toe gaan waar 'n boswa nie geskik is vir kamp nie. Beplan om 2 x RTT op te sit vir die doeleindes van een aand oorslaap situasies.

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 6:13 pm
by mcw
as jy klaar is sal ons n trip moet reel

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 7:44 pm
by JohanM
Baie mooi Robbie... Dit lyk heel netjies en baie goed afgewerk.

Botswana is deesdae so mooi oopgery dat jy maklik daai boswa sal kan sleep, maar daai 22R mag dalk bietjie swaar werk met daai Jurgens XT agter sy stert.

Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 8:04 pm
by Haboob
Lyk baie mooi Robbie?
Waar kom die Yskas en gaan jy rakke inbou?
Onthou net, hoe verder agter jou yskas is hoe meer gaan hy stamp met die slegte paaie...

Re: RE: Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 8:45 pm
by Bliksempie
Haboob wrote:Lyk baie mooi Robbie?
Waar kom die Yskas en gaan jy rakke inbou?
Onthou net, hoe verder agter jou yskas is hoe meer gaan hy stamp met die slegte paaie...
Die plan os om rakke in te bou, ja. En dankie vir die advies oor die ligging van die yskas.... Dalk moet ek my vrou se sitplek soontoe skuif...

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Re: RE: Re: Steel frame Aluminium Canopy

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 8:47 pm
by Bliksempie
mcw wrote:as jy klaar is sal ons n trip moet reel
Definitief Martin. Net jammer jyt my nou alleen gelos met my SFA.

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