Hilux 4x4 Forum

Will post some pics when the motor gets here, was in the car and could not load it. Will come with our lorry on Tuesday.

pietpetoors wrote:

What I did do is get my replacement motor that is going in.

and??????
what is that?

Prado 3.4 V6 ??

Dont all give negative comments at once. I have wanted to use one of these motors for a long time and have now decided to do it. I need something stronger for towing a caravan. I dont want a Lexus as it is to strong. I dont go mad in the veld, do more overlanding than 4x4 . I need something reliable with no electronics, as the wife and I ride to some areas with no cell signal. The boss always knows in what direction we are going as do I when he goes out, so if we dont turn up we know know where to start looking. These can be fixed with a blou draad and tang if need be, so ja my choice............
The motor is in quite good condition but has been standing for about 3 years, so it doesnt look so hot. It is complete except for starter. I got it for a good price from a pal of mine.

Essex!

Still the best value R/kw!

V6 ?

vertel bietjie meer van die motor.

Yes Chris, it is the old Ford Essex 3 liter V6. Just the plain points, plugs and condensor. The motor was running in a Hilux that was cut up due to rust. It was a good runner, I am going to fit a new oil and water pump and maybe rings and bearings. Will open it up and see. I know it was a good runner but it has been standing for about 3 years outside under a cover. It turns over all right, but I want to check it out. I dont want to have to take it out after a short time and do it.

Good motors in their time and a popular unit for motor conversions. Spares now difficult to get.

Nice, I agree with the simple, fix it with bloudraad theory.

Me thinks if you redo it properly now it will be OK for the next ten years (or more) for what you use it.

Fuel consumption will be either the same or slightly better, but you will have the advantage of more power and..... BETTER SOUND

Should show this to a friend .. he LOVED his V6 Fords through the years. Was quick and cheap to overhaul as well.


ENJOY

Got some more done today. Cut out and welded in on the driver side. Will fit the gutters next, and then the roof skin. Hopefully will get the roof before the end of the month.

Big job ey! Good work so far, keep it up man!

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Froll wrote:No update this weekend. Did my monthly trip to Springbok for month end shopping. What I did do is get my replacement motor that is going in.

Go BIG!!

4Y EFi!?!



Rich

At last I got to do some work again, havent done anything for 2 weeks because of going to town and church bazaar. Got my roof skin in the week. Today I finished the gutters and fitted them. I made them out of 20 mm square tubing as I could not find new ones. Well sometimes one just makes a lot of work for themselves, all I can say is that I learnt quite a lot of new words. The wife also fitted ear plugs. Seriously, this is one *a* job. I eventually got them reasonably straight, so I am hoping that the do they work out ok. I have not fitted the roof skin yet. The more work that I do on the roof area, the more I think that this truck has had a small roll in the dunes with very minimal damage. Just enough to mess you around. But I am confidant that I will get it mostly right.

Looking good Roger !you a brave man to tackle that job < only for the love of it!!!

Leka Froll, as jy die engine oopmaak laat balance hom sommer. Maak 'n hengse verskil in hoe 'n engine rev en hulle loop sommer net gladder.

Got the roof skin on in place today. Stuck the sides with epoxy, waiting for 24 hours to set then I can braze the corners and the window frames. Also modified the firewall to fit the Essex motor. Getting there slowly.

Coming along nicely, keep it up!

Hy kom mooi aan. Ek is so bly my bakkie se dak was nog reg, anders moes ek ook deur die pret gegaan het!

Sterkte!!!

Dit lyk na ure en ure se sweet en lelik praat wat voorle maar dis alles die moeite werd.

Netjiese werk sover Rodger, mens moet maar seker baie geduld hê met so 'n projek. Ek is mal daaroor om goeters te bou maar so iets weet ek nog nie. Sterkte daar.

Marius, my dak was nog reg. Dis die gutters wat so sleg geroes was. Ek kon nie nuwe gutters kry nie toe maak ek my eie uit 20 mm square tube uit. Maar ek moes die dak af sny om hulle te vervang.
Tertius, ek het al n klomp nuwe woorde geleer van ek begin het.
Hennie, dit is die eerste keer dat ek so ver gegaan het en ek leer baie uit hierdie job uit. Dit is ook die laaste groot job wat ek sal aan vat, ek hoop so. Daar is so baie vriende wat kennis het, wat help met advies as ek vas hak. Ek werk net op n Saterdag, so as ek in die aande sit en rook in die garage dan werk my kop oortyd om planne te maak en hulle change n paar keer duur die week. So as ek Saterdag begin dan weet ek wat ek wil of moet doen.

Witvos wrote:Leka Froll, as jy die engine oopmaak laat balance hom sommer. Maak 'n hengse verskil in hoe 'n engine rev en hulle loop sommer net gladder.

+10000000

Froll, I have a favour to ask. You probably have the entire wiring loom out at the moment. I'm trying to figure out where exactly the intermittent timer for the wipers sits since mine seems to no longer be working. If you have time, could you trace the Light Green wire from the stalk to see where it goes?

Sorry Nic, I have not yet taken the wiring loom out and will probably not take it right out, but I can see if I can find the wire and follow it for you. It may just take a while but I will see what I can do for you.

My Hilux het ook plek plek roes op, en my "gutters" is ook al moeg geroes. Die werk wat jy doen le nog vir my voor. Net een groot verskil, ek sal dit moet laat doen en dit gaan nie n finansiele plesier wees nie

My droom is maar soos almal sn op die forum om eendag n bakkie te he waarop mens kan trots wees. Ek vat hom maar so stuk stuk. Het begin met die wiele, bearings en brieke. Ratkaste en driveshaft's is reg, olievlakke gecheck en alle grease nipples is goed vol gepomp.

Die engine was volgende, alle belde en seels is vervang, radiator geflush en engine is gediens. Huidiglik is ons besig met sy suspension. Gelukkig vir ons is dieselvoertuie nie swaar op uitlaatstelsels nie en myne is nog100%. As suspension klaar is kan ek begin met die cosmetics en hier gaan dit n gesukkel afgee want parte hier is blerrie skaars soos ek reeds ondervind het. Gelukkig het ek niks wat my jaag nie hehehehe

Froll wrote:Sorry Nic, I have not yet taken the wiring loom out and will probably not take it right out, but I can see if I can find the wire and follow it for you. It may just take a while but I will see what I can do for you.

Thanks!

Ja Tertius, dit is nie a lekker job nie. As jy gaan laat iemand dit doen, kry verkieslik iemand wat privaat werk doen wat lief is vir die werk. Ek dink van die werkwinkels doen half n job net om die werk klaar te kry en hulle geld te kry, dan sit jy weer met die gemoors in n paar jaar se tyd. Gutters is nie beskikbaar meer nie, so hulle moet gemaak word.

I finished brazing the roof last weekend. Today I went to town so I did not do any work, only stripped the engine bay so I can start cleaning up. Am hoping to start sanding and under coating soon.

Getting there Rodger!
Slowly, slowly, catches the monkey.

Baie goeie werk sover Rodger.Daardie dak gaan nie in jou skoonseun of kleinseun se tyd nodig he om weer reg gemaak moet word nie.

Got to fill some of the joints of the roof today. Once they are all finished I will start to under coat and do final filling and shaping. Next weekend we have a wedding in Upington so will not get anything done.Getting there slowly but surely.

You've come a far way with it and it's looking good, keep it up!

Congrats Roger !!

The worst seems to be done. Now it is just a matter of time to get the rest sorted.

Wow, Roger, you are doing a great job. I think the hard part is over now.

Well last weekend I did not do anything as we went away. This weekend I got quite a bit done. I worked today, which I dont normally do as it looks like I am not going to be here for the next two weekends. Got a family crisus and will probally be going to Kathu and then George for a week. I finished filling and sanding, wet sanded the whole outside and engine bay and undercoated it all today. Now the big job starts as you can now see the places that need filling and flatting. We will get there slowly.I want to fit the motor when I get back to do the engine mountings and exhaust system before the cab goes back on. Also still have to do the diffs and chassis.

Looks good!!

Maybe get some of these thin pva(me thinks) matresses that the hikers use(6 or 8mm at Mr Price Sport) and put it in as ceilibg insulation - does wonders to the inside temp of the car.

I have also used it under the carprts as a cheap but very effective sound and heat isolation product, especially over the gearbox tunnel.

Yes Thabo, I bought 2 last weekend when I was in Upington. 6 mm with a silver lining on one side. I think they will work quite lekker.

Hallo Rodger, nou kom jou werk netjies uit. Soos ek jou thread dophhou, weet ek hier kom nou 'n netjiese eindproduk uit wat almal graag wil sien. Wag in spanning.

Looking really great so far, Roger! Keep up the good workmanship!

Wow
You have taken on a job that I don't think I would have the guts to take on

This thread, inspires me to get off my @$$ and go do what I have to do on my projects

Haha Fernando, this is the first time I have stripped so far. Big job, but will get there.

Sanded the inside today and sprayed undercoat.

Lyk baie mooi Rodger

Lekker! An epic job, but once it's done you'll have the peace of mind knowing that it's all good.

Well done Roger

The end is in sight

Thanks for the encouragement chaps, still a lot to do but will get there.

baie mooi Rodger
watter kleur gaan jy verf

Lyk goed! Watse primer gebruik jy Rodger?

Dankie Martin, ek gaan hom daai land cruiser beige maak.

Dankie Marius, ek gebruik 2k primer.

Dis lekker sterk verf daai, sterkte met skuur werk. Dis n eentonigge werk daai!

Land Cruiser beige - same colour as Bulldog! Toyota Code 4E9. It matches the SFA perfectly!


-F_D

Well I have basically finished blocking and given a final coat of undercoat. There is still 2 small places that I am not happy with, but will sort them out when I flat to spray colour. I am going to start fitting the motor next weekend. Need to make engine mountings and do exhaust system, also need to sort out power steering mounting for pump.It is going to be easier to do all this with the cab removed, then I will remove the motor again to strip and check over. My branches arrived on Friday and am very happy with them, thanks to Fernando.

Rodger jou projek vorder baie goed en jou werk is van hoog staande gehalte.Ek kan sien dat jy hierdie werk doen om jou SFA nog lank in die familie te hou.

My vraag is net dit . Vir hoe lank gaan jy nog onderdele kry vir daardie V6 Ford engine in die toekoms? Is dit nie n beter opsie om te kyk na die Mazda/Ford WL engine nie?

As ek eendag groot is en geld het om my ou wa te laat regmaak, wil ek dit so gedoen he!!!

Mens kan sien jy is trots op jou handewerk en doen n ding reg!!!

Yes Dawie die parte raak skaars maar op die oomblik is hulle nog beskikbaar. Ek is nou naby 60 en die tyd dat die motor moet weer gedoen word is dit nie my probleem meer nie. My stief seun wat die trok gaan kry is ook baie goed met sy hande en dan kan hy maar doen wat hy will.

V6 3.0 parts, still plenty around
Have enough parts to build two complete motors and have plenty spares for those

Now bring in the 3.4 V6 and that becomes way more difficult

However those ford/mazda WL motors are great and have huge potential

Roger,

Was vanaand by iemand wat so Essex gestroke het 3.4 toe. Daai gaan 'n lekker enjin wees.

Daar staan toe so gryse omie en vertel dat die Essex se probleem nog al die jare hul lugvloei is. blykbaar is die inlet manifold die GROOT probleem.

Jy kan glo nie deur 'n standaard inlet manifold kyk nie. Maak hom bietjie oop en hy loop dan glo lekker en is bietjei ligter op sous.

Yes that stroker does make a difference
My 3.4 is a factory stroker motor
One of the advantages of the factory one is that the uprated heads had 43mm inlet valves

Yes that original manifold is restrictive
There are various ways of solving that

Forced induction
A EFI manifold
Or
Two 38s with its respective manifold, and this I have tried and make s a big difference
And according to dyno charts, mild cam, head job, when adding a twin carb setup , just from adding the two carburetor manifold gives and increase I'm 18% I'm power

Started fitting the motor yesterday. Need to get a starter motor to make the other mounting. Fitted branches and they look good. Thanks Fernando.

Pleasure
Glad it fits as expected