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KZTE felt sluggish...This is what i found in the intake and need help.

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Good day gents

I compared my KZ with a friends KZ and mine felt sluggish. Curiosity got the best of me and i removed the the pipe between the turbo and what i believe is the EGR valve.
So what i found was black gunk. I believe the intake manifold is going to look terrible. What would be the best to use for cleaning and when i put everything back together how do i prevent this from happening again? What can be done with the pipe that goes from the tappet cover directly into the turbo on the filter side because i found oil residue in that pipe.
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You will find that in most turbo's.

Have you checked the intercooler? Build up there would probably be a greater concern than what you've found.

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AFAIK Kz's don't have EGR's.

That bit of oil is not really a concern.

There are quite a few tips and trick on this forum to improve Kz performance. Search for 'Airbox mod', Freeflow exhaust and intercooler and Unichip.
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Baasvark wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:26 pm You will find that in most turbo's.

Have you checked the intercooler? Build up there would probably be a greater concern than what you've found.

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Thabogrobler wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:59 pm AFAIK Kz's don't have EGR's.

That bit of oil is not really a concern.

There are quite a few tips and trick on this forum to improve Kz performance. Search for 'Airbox mod', Freeflow exhaust and intercooler and Unichip.
What does the butterfly valve do?
For me it is a concern...I'm no mechi but a intake and compressor side of the turbo shouldn't look like that. The residue is quite sticky.
I'll be removing the turbo and send it in for a service. Will also be fitting a catch can after i can find one.
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Waar sit die boost sensor?
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Thabo, hy sit standaard op die pyp wat vanaf die turbo na die intake manifold loop. Die van ons met intercoolers sal hom in daardie area los of vas ge-cabletie vind. My filter (daardie grys silinder) het gelek en was na al die jare moeg gewerk. Die het olie na die sensor toe deurgelaat. Die pypies het ook begin perish.

Die KZ se ecu werk met paar stukkies inligting. MAP (Manifold Actual Pressure of boost pressure) is een van die belangrikstes. Daarmee word die injector pomp se timing advance of retard (Dis nou as die meganisme nie ook moeg is nie). Haal een van daardie pypies af en sien/voel wat gebeur. Wel niks gebeur nie :laugh2: niks vinnig nie :lmao:
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Found this
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Splitpin wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:22 pmFound this
Nee man,

Ek het so lank gelede my Kz verkoop dat ek nou glad nie meer al die detail kan onthou nie.

Dit lyk soos die intake kant en jy sien die valve in die silinderkop? Ek hou ook nie van so aanpaksel nie maar dis is maar 'n diesel se ding.

Kontak vir Alan Venter(Hoppy op die forum) - hy ken die Kz's die beste van almal.
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Thabogrobler wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:29 pm
Splitpin wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:22 pmFound this
Nee man,

Ek het so lank gelede my Kz verkoop dat ek nou glad nie meer al die detail kan onthou nie.

Dit lyk soos die intake kant en jy sien die valve in die silinderkop? Ek hou ook nie van so aanpaksel nie maar dis is maar 'n diesel se ding.

Kontak vir Alan Venter(Hoppy op die forum) - hy ken die Kz's die beste van almal.
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you can use throttle body cleaner spray to clean the areas of the piping which have sensors.

for the normal pipe pieces you can use acetone.
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Splitpin wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:46 am
Thabogrobler wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:29 pm
Splitpin wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:22 pmFound this
Nee man,

Ek het so lank gelede my Kz verkoop dat ek nou glad nie meer al die detail kan onthou nie.

Dit lyk soos die intake kant en jy sien die valve in die silinderkop? Ek hou ook nie van so aanpaksel nie maar dis is maar 'n diesel se ding.

Kontak vir Alan Venter(Hoppy op die forum) - hy ken die Kz's die beste van almal.
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Die$eL wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:56 am you can use throttle body cleaner spray to clean the areas of the piping which have sensors.

for the normal pipe pieces you can use acetone.
Ek sal dit probeer. Dink julle daar is sensors binne in die intake manifold? Ek sal net weer moet gaan kyk. Wat stel julle voor vir die turbo se compressor kant? Nog nie Turbo afgehaal nie maar ek weet hy lyk ook so. Hoe gemaak om ports op die intake kant van head skoon te maak asook valves sonder om head af te haal. Daar is n oom wat vir my gese het "as dit nie jeuk nie..moenie krap nie". Ek Gaan skoon maak sover ek kan en gaskets vervang asook die flex/rubber pyp tussen die turbo en throttlebody.
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Rooi Pyl: Ek vermoed ek het boost verloor want die sticky oil aanpaksel het daar uitgeloop (natuurlik onder druk)
Blou Pyl: Is dit die oil supply vir die turbo?
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Ek sou dink jy moet dalk die turbo laat recon. dit kan sy seels wees wat lek en alles vol olie maak.
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Dit lyk of jy daar druk verloor het. Alle turbo diesels se turbos blaas bietjie olie deur. Ek dink jy moet eers seker maak hy seel mooi daar voordat jy nou groot geld spandeer soos turbos. Ek is nie oortuig dat die die turbo is nie.
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DELILA wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:30 am Ek sou dink jy moet dalk die turbo laat recon. dit kan sy seels wees wat lek en alles vol olie maak.
Olie kom nie van die turbo af nie. Die turbo is wel vol olie (sticky olie). Rede hoekom ek catch can gaan insit. Pyp wat van tappet cover kom na voor die turbo was vol olie wat dan deur die turbo opgesuig word.Ek wil die turbo laat skoon maak en diens. Seker dieselfde as recon?
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Mars wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:42 pm Dit lyk of jy daar druk verloor het. Alle turbo diesels se turbos blaas bietjie olie deur. Ek dink jy moet eers seker maak hy seel mooi daar voordat jy nou groot geld spandeer soos turbos. Ek is nie oortuig dat die die turbo is nie.
Ek stem 100% saam. Die olie in die turbo kom van die tappet cover af. Toe ek daardie pyp afgehaal het was hy vol olie "geline". Ek gaan nie stry oor turbos bietjie olie deur blaas nie. Ek se maar net wat ek sien en dit is voor die hand liggend. Die kopseer is om alles skoon te kry...die intake valves en turbo sonder om duisende rande te spandeer wat nie nodig is nie. Soos genoem gaan ek gaskets en rubber pyp vervang met nuwe clamps.As al de boost gaan waar dit moet glo ek dat die enjn nie meer so lui gaan wees nie.
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Splitpin wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:43 pm
Mars wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:42 pm Dit lyk of jy daar druk verloor het. Alle turbo diesels se turbos blaas bietjie olie deur. Ek dink jy moet eers seker maak hy seel mooi daar voordat jy nou groot geld spandeer soos turbos. Ek is nie oortuig dat die die turbo is nie.
Ek stem 100% saam. Die olie in die turbo kom van die tappet cover af. Toe ek daardie pyp afgehaal het was hy vol olie "geline". Ek gaan nie stry oor turbos bietjie olie deur blaas nie. Ek se maar net wat ek sien en dit is voor die hand liggend. Die kopseer is om alles skoon te kry...die intake valves en turbo sonder om duisende rande te spandeer wat nie nodig is nie. Soos genoem gaan ek gaskets en rubber pyp vervang met nuwe clamps.As al de boost gaan waar dit moet glo ek dat die enjn nie meer so lui gaan wees nie.
Jip, begin met die basics.

Ek maak ook ALLES skoon wat ek afhaal voor ek iets terug sit, MAAR onthou, dit gaan nie lank wees dan lyk daai pype maar weer so.
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Juis hoekom ek navorsing doen oor die catch can storie.
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Update: Het alles terug gesit met nuwe intake gasket seels nadat alles mooi skoon gemaak was. Die bakkie start baie makliker. Nog besig met die catch can en moet nog airbox modifikasie doen.
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Wys bietjie paar kiekies van jou catch can as jy klaar is.... .

Wil kyk na so iets vir myne maar nie seker hoe om hom te maak nie.

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Splitpin wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:33 am Update: Het alles terug gesit met nuwe intake gasket seels nadat alles mooi skoon gemaak was. Die bakkie start baie makliker. Nog besig met die catch can en moet nog airbox modifikasie doen.
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