Fraud

Hilux 1 · Post by **Hilux 1** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:18 pm

by wie kan mens sulke mense aan gee?

http://capetown.olx.co.za/2003-jurgens- ... -293076260" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

want soos hulle se as dit te goed is om waar te wees is dit.

Die Vent bly blykbaar in UK. Bollie!.

Hilux 1 · Post by **Hilux 1** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:24 pm

ek het die ou bietjie try vas trap om sy naam te kry en iewers waar ek die klaravaan kan besigtig, maar ontwykend.
hier is ons gesprek sover.
So who is gonna show me the caravan? I'll need to see this before any transactions etc commence. I'll also need a contact person in the country.
And what is your name? Need to know I'm not dealing with a ghost? And a contact number in the UK. My brother lives there and he'll want to meet you just to check this is not one of those scams.

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From: multejucari12@aol.com
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 05:55:45 -0400 (EDT)
To: <binedell@mweb.co.za>
Subject: 2003 Jurgens Explorer Caravan 4x4 Off Road

Hello,

The price is R35,000. This is the final price and there will be no additional charges. The caravan looks and runs great. I am selling the caravan so cheap because I am in United Kingdom with my new job and I just finished a divorce. I am a VerifiedTrader so the transaction will be done through eBay. If you're ready for this purchase, I need to know your full name and address, as soon as I have them I will start the official procedure, and eBay will notify you about this. eBay will send you an Invoice with all the info you will need to complete the transaction. Also a 10 days refund policy will be included so if you will not like the caravan or if something will be wrong you will receive your money back in the same day without any charges from your side. Thanks

Is the caravan still licensced? and really i would like to see the caravan so if you can please get back to me ASAP. have you not got a number where i can talk to you re the caravan. still want to know why so cheap? is it a written off code 3 or what? i am REALLY interrested in the buy if there is nothing wrong. Just come back to me please.

Tertius

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From: multejucari12@aol.com
Sent: 2012/04/03 11:55:45 AM
To: binedell@mweb.co.za
Cc:
Subject: RE: 2003 Jurgens Explorer Caravan 4x4 Off Road

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Hello,

The price is R35,000. This is the final price and there will be no additional charges. The caravan looks and runs great. I am selling the caravan so cheap because I am in United Kingdom with my new job and I just finished a divorce. I am a VerifiedTrader so the transaction will be done through eBay. If you're ready for this purchase, I need to know your full name and address, as soon as I have them I will start the official procedure, and eBay will notify you about this. eBay will send you an Invoice with all the info you will need to complete the transaction. Also a 10 days refund policy will be included so if you will not like the caravan or if something will be wrong you will receive your money back in the same day without any charges from your side. Thanks

So you want to tell me you had NO friends or relatives in SA? You really expect me to pay that amount of money in these day and age with all the fraud? I think I should get some more help in. Can I have the licence plate number so I can atleast trace ownership? As you stil not giving your name? Give me a tel number so we can talk please.
Tertius

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From: multejucari12@aol.com
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:01:15 -0400 (EDT)
To: <binedell@mweb.co.za>
Subject: Re: 2003 Jurgens Explorer Caravan 4x4 Off Road

Hi there,

Sorry you cannot see the caravan because I am not in the country but a 10 days refund policy will be included so if you will not like the caravan you will receive your money back. The caravan will be delivered to your home address after you will complete the payment. Delivery time will be 2 days. It comes with insurance covered by me of course until you take the ownership, RWC, keys, clear title, valid road license, full revision and all the papers signed so you can easy transfer the caravan on your name. All the costs will be paid by me. I don't have a outstanding amount on the caravan at a bank or financial agency as I paid cash for it. I have two more persons interested in buying the caravan so please send me your full name and address if you are ready to buy it. Thank you!

Sebata · Post by **Sebata** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:31 pm

you smell it, you play far from it.... it has scam written all over it

Hilux 1 · Post by **Hilux 1** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:36 pm

indeed, i knew that the minute i saw the add, but want to know where one takes these kind of fruadsters?

ROBERT · Post by **ROBERT** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:39 pm

Something smells like a large Rodent

Sebata · Post by **Sebata** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:43 pm

Hilux 1 wrote:indeed, i knew that the minute i saw the add, but want to know where one takes these kind of fruadsters?

this falls in the same basket as the internet banking phising.... never fall to thier trap

Hilux 1 · Post by **Hilux 1** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:54 pm

i honestly want to know, WHO THE HELL IS SO STUPID as to fall for this? seriously?? how dens(spelling sucks) must one be.

Kaspaas · Post by **Kaspaas** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:14 pm

Tertius,

Jy kan die advertensie vir een van die manne op die website forward :

http://www.419eater.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hierdie Scam-baiters is die beste waarvan ek weet, hulle smokkel met die kansvatters se koppe.
Lees so paar feadbacks op die forum, dis vreeslike snaaks!
Een van die beste manne is n ou uit SA. (Kan nie nou onthou wat is sy naam nie)

Sebata · Post by **Sebata** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:22 pm

Hilux 1 wrote:i honestly want to know, WHO THE HELL IS SO STUPID as to fall for this? seriously?? how dens(spelling sucks) must one be.

they pry on the valnerable one's looking to score quick buck, there is one of Euro lottery,. ???

ChrisF · Post by **ChrisF** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:17 pm

the ONLY reason they keep doing it, is because they keep making money this way .........

SCARY but true

jacques kotze · Post by **jacques kotze** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:33 pm

Die Aap!!!

toyota · Post by **toyota** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:15 pm

Hi guys.
If you read this asshole`s english you will immediatly see that he comes from a Central African country known for its frauds

Theodorus · Post by **Theodorus** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:52 pm

You should take him for a ride thats what i do take them on a false sence and waist there time

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Post by **pietpetoors** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:12 am

The ad web sites are full of this, the other day a guy sent me a link to a 2.7 Hilux for R40,000 , same story
If you see a vehicle advertised for a ridiculous price and if the guy says he wants to communicate by email not phone and he is not in the country you should know to stay far away.

Piesang · Post by **Piesang** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:56 am

As ek reg verstaan is Tertius se redenasie nie hoe vermy 'n mens sulke ouens nie, maar hoe kan jy hul aan die pen laat ry, is daar iewers 'n plek waar jy sulke ouens kan gaan AANGEE.

Dit help nie jy gaan cops toe nie, hulle sê net dis buite hul gebied, wel iemand moet met sulke sake werk.

Legolas · Post by **Legolas** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:14 am

Hi al wat ek weet jy kan doen is om met die ou te speel en sy tyd te mors en sodoende hom te vermy om met ander mense dieselfde te probeer doen.

Ek weet daar was so tydjie terug 'n lid op die hilux forum wat dit reggekry het en het al sy eposse hier op die forum gepost. Ek kan net nie die naam onthou nie maar dit was nogal goeie lees stof!! So terius ek sal kyk of ek die link kan kry en dan moet jy so iets try...

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:18 am

Niks wat jy eintlik daaraan kan doen nie Pieter Piesang. Hulle sal nie ophou nie, want daar is mense (baie ongelukkige mense) wat val vir hulle trieks... Ongelukkig is dit baie moeilik om hulle te vervolg, sou jy dit regkry om die saak by die regte mense aan te gee.

Intussen is daar slim ouens wat dit regkry om hierdie skelms lekker rond te neek, en hulle tyd te mors. Die internet is vol sulke stories en van die goed is nogals baie funny...

2.8 d/cab SFA · Post by **2.8 d/cab SFA** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:37 pm

yip Autotrader full of the scam, no number just email adress

ChrisF · Post by **ChrisF** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:07 pm

at what point does Autotrader/Gumtre/etc/etc become liable for perpetuating this ??

surely linking these adds to a VALID RICA'd cell number is not so difficult to do .... no cell = no add.

this way a fraudulant transaction CAN be traced and procecuted.

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