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by warthog
Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:16 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
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You do understand correctly indeed, Sir.
by warthog
Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:29 pm
Forum: Humor
Topic: Snow In Gauteng
Replies: 21
Views: 2665

Re: Snow In Gauteng

Lyk vir ook my nes pap.
by warthog
Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:46 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

Re: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...

Mark, the migration is in a circular clockwise route roughly across Serengeti, Masaai Mara in Kenya, and then back into Serengeti and Ngorongoro. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serengeti" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Although the migration is dependant on rains and grazing, ...
by warthog
Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:09 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

Re: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...

OOOOMS wrote:
CasKru wrote:Ek so graag die res van daai fodies ook wou sien... die loose it phodies.
Nou gee jy my mos 'n idee...... :mrgreen:

Reel 'n aand Hennie bring pics, gooi op big screen, en hy vertel storie :idea:

:D:
Dit kan dalk werk.
by warthog
Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:52 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

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The previous pics and these are with the exception of one or two, all Hannes'. Speaking of which, the greatest frustration in compiling this tr was that I was not able to put in more of the literally hundreds of awesome pics we took, and the difficulty in choosing which to use and which to loose... ...
by warthog
Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:01 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

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Breaking camp at Nguchiro, Seronera, Serengeti... Leaving Seronera.jpg The road is, well as the road is. As a policeman who stopped us at a roadblock in Serengeti explained, the road is what it is so that we have to drive slower so that we can see all the animals... Serengeti pad 1.jpg Mooiste kombi...
by warthog
Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:09 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

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To continue (now I understand what F_D meant...) And suddenly- we had to leave. We went to bed, got up, and had to leave. It is simply not fair that you look forward to something for so long, and then have to leave so shortly... In the major Tanzanian Parks, you pay for entry per 24 hours. If you go...
by warthog
Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:18 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

Re: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...

Mr B, all the pic's you have seen and will see were taken with Canons...
by warthog
Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:32 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

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Hennie: Q: Stupid question :mocking: Did you not even wonder why your house is where it is? :lol: :lol: Plenty times Mark. After the Nam trip, and again now. I think if it was only up to me, my house might just be where my tent pegs are, or where Gump's wheels are parked... (I think Malawi will sui...
by warthog
Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:16 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

Re: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...

To all who have posted comments so far: thank you. I do tend to get long winded sometimes, and i really thought that I was boring everybody.

Your comments are humbling. :blushing:
by warthog
Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:52 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

Re: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...

Jacques, ons gesin het nie die lugballon ding gedoen nie, maar die ander in die groep het. Hulle was so verbrands ordentlik teenoor ons dat hulle letterlik nie 'n woord daaroor gepraat het na hulle teruggekom het nie. Ons het ons redes hoekom ons dit nie gedoen het nie, maar om net regverdig te wees...
by warthog
Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:10 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

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All of us returned to camp at Nguchiru Camp that night somewhat subdued. Hannes, whom is somewhat of a motor-mouth, and has proved it over the previous 2 weeks, was exceptionally quiet. When we sat around the fire, he mentioned that he now understands a syndrome that is mentioned in medical circles....
by warthog
Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:43 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

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Some more of Hannes's pics: Cheetah hunt.jpg It was some 5 hours later, and these 2 teenagers were still going at it... Ellie wrestle.jpg Until Big Brother stepped in (probably for the umpteenth time) to break it up... Ellies BB breaking it up.jpg And Mamma took us across safely Ellies crossing.jpg
by warthog
Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:33 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

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To continue:

It was the same day that the others went on the hot air balloon safari. These are Hannes' pics.
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by warthog
Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:58 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
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Trailers, Mark, difficult. We did Namibia and Kaokoveld with a trailer and tents. Done that. Got the t-shirt. Not again. Hannes and Louize did Nam with rooftop tents. I'm built rather "compact", not for speed, or like my physio once said: "You're not very supple, are you? No, I'm not....
by warthog
Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:34 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

Re: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...

And then: Next moment a young Thompson's Gazelle ran right into the family of cheetah... You could see the surprise on their faces; "What?! Mom ordered Macdonalds! Home delivery!!!" They immediately set after the gazelle, with me, (and Hannes) frantically trying to take pics... I was on th...
by warthog
Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:01 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

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These ellies were just enjoying the mud- just like any kid... Dag 3-18.jpg Dag 3-19.jpg dag 3-20.jpg THIRSTY!! dag 3-21.jpg We saw a lot of game-view vehicles at a tree, but could see nothing. Later Hannes arrived and called us on the radio, told us there were cheetah under the tree. We went back an...
by warthog
Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:36 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

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Mark, @ Warthog Some more questions / observations I have, you can possibly assist with later :D: Q:1) IMO 2way radio's are valuable asset when travelling in convoy - Your opinion and what did you use VHF / UHF or 29mHz? Anh how did you find them? Mark, I will NOT do a trip like this without radios....
by warthog
Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:58 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

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My daughter and I went for a drive, and landed up caught in the middle of a herd of about 60 elephant, some sleeping on their feet, mothers and babies crossing right in front of Forest, while 2 youngsters were wrestling 5m behind our back bumper, quiet, calm, no threat, just being elephants Dag 3-9....
by warthog
Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:44 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
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Views: 98586

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by warthog
Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:33 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

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The migration is all that is said about it and more. There are simply no words or pictures able to describe it.... To stand and turn 360 degrees, and as far as the eye can see, this massive entity consisting of hundreds of thousand of animals, constantly running, moving and milling around... (Hannes...
by warthog
Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:10 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

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OOOOMS wrote:Die foto van die hippo (kop pic p2) is awsome :!: Maak poskaarte daarvan en sal beslis koop, baie mooi pic daai :thumbup:
Dki Mark. Daai is Hannes se foutie- hy sal hierdie lees...
by warthog
Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:44 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

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Dag 1-9.jpg Dag 1-10.jpg Hannes and Louize stumbled onto this on day 1, seems as though there was a crossing not more that 24 hours prior, as some 40 plus Wildebeest carcasses had spilt up against this low-water bridge. The vultures and maraboes had not really started their work... Dag 2-1.jpg dag ...
by warthog
Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:20 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
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Thanks Mark. (I actually considered stopping, thought maybe the report was too long-winded, everybody has lost interest...) The next posts will be photo's taken in Serengeti. Certainly not all of the best, it is mostly mine, as I do not have Jan or Dewald's Serengeti photo's, nor all of Hannes's. I ...
by warthog
Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:01 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
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We had planned to sleep at Serengeti Stopover, and drive into Serengeti to Seronera the next day. A very kind guide in Stopover however gave us other advice. As the migration was in the western part, where we were to enter, if we did what we planned, it would mean driving through the migration to ou...
by warthog
Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:25 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

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Sal so doen Frans. Somewhere during that day Dewald and I got quite a bit a bit ahead, so we stopped and waited for Jan and Hannes. Dewald first checked his van’s new leaf springs, then stuck his head under Gump to check out the setup there. He popped up to tell me that a very important nut was miss...
by warthog
Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:54 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: They can't fly but they can swim
Replies: 24
Views: 2427

Re: They can't fly but they can swim

Toe ek die Topic ooskrif sien, het ek gedog jy praat van Cameron vd Burgh en Chad...
by warthog
Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:49 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

Re: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...

Yes, the road. We had also spent some of the time at Jakobsen checking each and every bolt and nut on the caravans, and all other bolts and nuts we could see on the vehicles. Each of the 184 wheel nuts on the vehicles and vans were checked and tightened. We had initially planned on driving to Tabora...
by warthog
Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:29 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

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We left Jakobsen Beach at about 07h00 on Thursday. The past 2 days were a magical refresher for our souls. These are some sights in Tanzania. There is a huge difference between the poor rural people, and those centred around bigger towns like Kigoma, Mwanza and especially to the east, like Dar es Sa...
by warthog
Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:50 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

Re: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...

Jis Thanks Hennie... stunning trip report. Ek neem aan hierdie kamp is baie sentraal geleë http://www.hilux4x4.co.za/views/download/file.php?id=51678 Als is net 'n klipgooi ver :twisted: :D: Cassie, klipgooi dalk wel, maa "sentraal gelee" is die 1 ding wat ek nou NIE daarvan sal se nie...
by warthog
Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:48 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

Re: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...

Lollie wrote:Hennie,

Dit is n baie mooi trip report met uitstekende fotos.
Dankie Dawie. Die foto's is 'n mengsel van almal s'n, en ek dink nie enigiemand gaan omgee as hy nie spesifiek krediet kry nie.
Daar was omtrent 9 000 foto's (90 Gig), en glo my, van die beteres en bestes kom nog...
by warthog
Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:45 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

Re: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...

Some more sights from Kigoma's market. Newepaper stand.jpg Colours.jpg Some of the locals do not like their pic's taken, to which Hannes too serious offence... No photo!.jpg Some more info and sights on Jakobsen's. There are 2 sites, Beach 1 and Beach 2. Beach 1 is for camping, with 2 showers (cold)...
by warthog
Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:31 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

Re: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...

Ahhh. Jakobsen Beach. Jakobsen.jpg The drive to Jakobsen’s is through the outskirts of Kigoma, and like the drive to Tanganyika Lodge, a gravel road through a village initially. You then drive out of town, and following clear markers, reach Jacobsen’s. The last bit of road is quite hairy, especially...
by warthog
Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:24 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

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And for the second time in 2 days… there was a light in the darkness. I saw the light on our right, and immediately got out while Swamb’s told the others over the radio. I shook hands with Mr Jooma, the guy in charge of the campsite. Yes, there was still a camp, and yes, although it was very late, w...
by warthog
Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:18 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
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Welcome in TZ.jpg Entry into Tanzania was long and enduring, and fairly uneventful until the customs officials decided to inspect each vehicle. In the light of my little registration number problem on my carnet, this caused some serious nerves… Between Dewald’s talking and the Lord closing some eye...
by warthog
Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:52 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
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We drove the short distance to Mpulungu, and cleared customs in the harbor. While we waited for the Customs officer to arrive, we had a quick Codesa around Hannes' map Codesa.jpg Again, those carnets proved the point. I sneaked a pic of this boat in the harbor, check the lettering… Boot.jpg We drove...
by warthog
Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:50 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

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Yip, that exact same feeling... Then in the darkness: a light ahead. Out came a man with a faint torch, and introduced himself as Augustine, and with him was his wife, Celestine. They were the managers of the camp, and lived on the site with their children. Yes, they were open for business, and we w...
by warthog
Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:37 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

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We arrived late at Kapishi Hot Springs. The owners were again very gracious and accommodating. Offered to prepare us supper while we put up camp, which idea went down very well. We put up camp in a nice site, with clean bathrooms and toilets. Kapishi Restaurant.jpg They again started the donkey for ...
by warthog
Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:04 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

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We left at about 8 the next morning. Fringilla, or rather Kambwese Farm, is an active farm, with a dairy etc run by George and his son Andrew. We really had an enjoyable stay, met George in the shop on the farm the next morning, stocked up on some fresh milk- still warm- and some fresh meat. Bought ...
by warthog
Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:10 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

Re: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...

Eish, I'm trying, I'm trying...
by warthog
Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:24 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

Re: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...

One need to understand that there it is not like the Kruger, where you camp and live behind fences. There you literally live right between wild (and dangerous) animals. The guides who took us out on the canoes confirmed that there were lion in the camp the previous evening. (Cassie, that spoor were ...
by warthog
Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:58 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

Re: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...

Ja cassie, dis dalk hoekom hy so moerig was...
by warthog
Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:40 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

Re: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...

Manapools camping is open, meaning the campsites are not fenced. These are some of the spoor I picked up after the first morning... there was also some elephant spoor. Hippo spoor.jpg Any guesses as to this? Lion spoor.jpg On Wednesday eve we actually spotted a spotted hyena in the camp some 50m fro...
by warthog
Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:21 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

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Tuesday 27 June 2012: Target: Mana Pools. Short drive (km wise) of some 190 clicks, first 100 od km’s nice tar road- quite, and a nice drive... Overtaking Africa way... remember we had 2-way radios, so the driver in front guided the others through- those radios, man, they made half the trip... Overt...
by warthog
Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:28 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

Re: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...

OOOOMS wrote:Werk jy nie halfdag Vrydag nie..... :mocking: :mocking: :mocking:
Ek doen actually... :cool:
by warthog
Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:50 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

Re: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...

We left Barberton on 23 June 2012, and met up late that afternoon at Jan’s place in Pretoria with Hannes, who had flown in from Canada early that morning to pick up his rental vehicle, do some shopping and start packing the Chobe. Some glitch prevented him getting the Chobe, but at least that meant ...
by warthog
Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:19 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

Re: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...

Tks Mark. Will try my best not to delay too much...
by warthog
Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:01 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: En so ry ons Serengeti toe...
Replies: 196
Views: 98586

En so ry ons Serengeti toe...

(You will have to be very patient- this was a four week epic journey, and we only returned yesterday- 22 Jul 2012. There is, in between getting back up to speed at work, also the matter of some 8 000 photo’s to sort through. So patience, please… This is just to make you lus :mrgreen: ) It all starte...
by warthog
Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:19 pm
Forum: Humor
Topic: Car rescue!!!
Replies: 10
Views: 1339

Re: Car rescue!!!

Daar issie pille vir stupid nie.
by warthog
Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:25 pm
Forum: Humor
Topic: Vir Mark (Ooooms)
Replies: 16
Views: 2186

Re: Vir Mark (Ooooms)

Mud Dog wrote:
Bugzy wrote:Hi Val, Women forget what the problem is :D: :D: :D:
Disagree! They remember each problem from day 1 for ever (at least the ones that you were responsible for), and don't often let an opportunity slip to remind you of them! :laugh2:
ABSO-BLOODY-LUTELY! They NEVER forget. :blackeye: :blackeye:
by warthog
Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:03 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Rugby
Replies: 20
Views: 2750

Re: Rugby

Og! Pienk melkies is darem lekker.
by warthog
Tue May 29, 2012 11:23 pm
Forum: Polls
Topic: Which fridge?
Replies: 43
Views: 18510

Re: Which fridge?

Tks Mark. Will do.
by warthog
Tue May 29, 2012 11:19 pm
Forum: Humor
Topic: Gebarste lippe
Replies: 10
Views: 1292

Re: Gebarste lippe

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
by warthog
Tue May 29, 2012 11:08 pm
Forum: Polls
Topic: Which fridge?
Replies: 43
Views: 18510

Re: Which fridge?

We're leaving for Serengeti on 23 June. :D: I'm taking one bil's 40l Engel- proved itself plenty times. Will use as fridge in Forest on dual battery. Bought a 60l Snomaster- 45l+15l combo unit. Fridge + bag cost R 6 400. Will use as freezer in new Gump on seperate battery system. Verdict due: End Ju...
by warthog
Wed May 16, 2012 8:26 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Radio license - neighbouring countries
Replies: 8
Views: 12001

Re: Radio license - neighbouring countries

Cassie,
we're touring up to Serengeti and back June-July 2012 via Zim, Moz, Malawi and obviously Tanzania- 4 vehicles- radios: what do we need re licences?
by warthog
Sun May 13, 2012 6:07 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Dogs poisoned
Replies: 40
Views: 3263

Re: Dogs poisoned

May those's crown jewels, start to itch and their fingers turn to .......
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by warthog
Thu May 10, 2012 10:51 pm
Forum: Humor
Topic: Blind golfers
Replies: 9
Views: 1498

Re: Blind golfers

Racing snake wrote:Soccer team. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
No. Soccer team: :cooldude: :cooldude: :cooldude: :cooldude: :cooldude: :cooldude: :cooldude: :cooldude: :cooldude: :cooldude: :cooldude:
by warthog
Mon May 07, 2012 9:59 pm
Forum: Route Planning questions/discussions
Topic: Roads that need permits
Replies: 7
Views: 1268

Re: Roads that need permits

Dept of Fisheries and Forrestry should be able to assist. ;-) Nope. Most of the plantations around here in the Lowveld are private or para-statal property- Sappi, Lomati, Komatiland or just plain private farms. They're becoming very touchy about access through the plantations- fire-safety mostly, b...
by warthog
Fri May 04, 2012 9:44 pm
Forum: Humor
Topic: I wonder if my wife would mind if I get another wife...
Replies: 11
Views: 1194

Re: I wonder if my wife would mind if I get another wife...

warthog wrote:Tolla van der Merwe het altyd gese as hy vir poefies soek, koop hy 'n Alfa.

Ek stem. Een vrou en een (TIENER) dogter is heeltemal genoeg dankie.
Mmmmm. Dankie Pieter. Ek het die een woord uitgelaat.

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