Replacing
Hilux bench seats with Honda Luxline single seats - By
Scotty
This
is a lenghty post with lots of pictures! I’ve tried to include
the info that would have helped me prior to starting this project.
If you the detail gets too much, skip to the end! :wink:
Soon
after purchasing our 1987 (import) Hilux we considered replacing
the original bench seat with single seats for a number of reasons:
1.Single seats are adjustable back and forward – no need to
for the passenger to lose all their leg room if the driver is shorter
than them.
2.These seats offer much better support and are much more comfortable
than the bench seat.
3.Safety – the bench seat offers no support to the head and
neck during an accident which increases the chances of whiplash
or spinal injury. Single seats provide a head rest.
4.Single seats provide a gap between them for a centre console.
Finding
suitable single seats
This
was a challenge. Hilux owners seem to have used all sorts of single/
bucket seats in their Hilux’s. Just about any seat could be
modified to fit, but we wanted to find seats that would fit with
the least modification to the seats and the vehicle. (Also see how
Cookie Monster fitted BMW seats to his Hilux under 'Members Rides')
It
made sense to start with Toyota seats. Most people seemed to agree
that Toyota Camry seats are incredibly comfortable. However, both
Camry and Corolla seats we found did not fit the existing holes
or built up bulkhead/rail that the bench brackets were attached
to.
So the
lengthy search continued…..
Honda
Luxline seats
Thanks to two friends we found a suitable option. My friend had
taken out his 1993 Honda Luxline seats out to fit racing seats.
So we tried these in the Hilux. They fitted!
1.The front
brackets fitted perfectly over the bulkhead/rail.
2.The rear brackets would need modification, but the one bracket
almost lined up with the existing hole.
3.They are incredibly comfortable seats.
4.They are fully adjustable back and forward, as well as reclining
fully. For the really tall manne though, they are not height adjustable.
(Thanks Pixel
for the idea, thanks Jono for bringing your seats.)
But
then it took months to find my own set of seats! Broken/ damaged/
old Luxline seats are available here and there, but I had to wait
for ages for a set that seemed hardly used (must have been accident
vehicle). One sponge panel was slightly damaged; I had this repaired
at little cost. I bought my seats for R1000 for both, but most others
are available for around R800. Most places selling these seats are
up for a bit of haggling.
It may be a
matter of opinion, but material Luxline seats seemed more comfortable
than leather ones I sat in.
Fitting the
Honda seats to the Hilux
If I can fit these seats anyone can!!
Firstly, My
Hilux has two additional threaded holes, just ready and waiting
for single seats.
Take
out the bench seat and peel back the carpeting to locate these additional
holes. I measured 43cm from the middle of one of these ‘hidden
holes’ to the middle of the existing hole used to bolt the
bench seat down.( :!: But PLEASE measure to be sure on your own
vehicle!)
The front brackets
of the Luxline seats required no modification, they bolted right
in.
The
bench has left the building
Hidden
hole
Hidden
hole on Passenger side
Luxline
seat bolted onto raised rail
The
rear brackets needed some work. The rear left bracket on the passenger
seat, and the rear right bracket on the drivers seat needed to be
modified. Various options were considered. Eventually we decided
to do the following:
Because
these brackets were straight and did not reach the existing hole,
we bent the bracket down to 90 degrees with a clamp.
This
then allowed us to use a simple piece of galvanised angle iron to
be bolted to the newly-bent bracket and another bolt to secure the
whole lot to the existing threaded hole. A picture speaks a thousand
words:
Back
right bracket on drivers seat
The rear
right bracket on the passenger seat and the rear left bracket on
the drivers seat also required some work. These brackets were also
flat, and just required two new holes be drilled. (I say ‘just’,
but I took deep breaths before drilling holes in the Hilux!) Carefully
mark and drill the holes and put a bolt through.
So
each seat now has one back bracket raised due to the 90 degree bend
and the other bracket sitting lower as it is flat and is simply
bolted down through the new hole. Left like this both seats tilt
inwards towards each other – no good. To remedy this I just
spaced the whole lot with some big washers till the seats were both
level.
Back
left bracket with washers
All
that is still left to do now is to take the whole lot off, rust
proof and Hammerite (or however you keep the rust away) the brackets
and get under the vehicle and treat the bolts and washers with anti-rust
muti too.
All
done
All the bolts
and nuts used were high-tensile – these seats need to stay
put in event of an accident. I also used a spring-washer with every
nut and bolt.
I
couldn’t justify spending thousands on fancy seat covers on
seats that only cost R1000, so I bought some of the Stingray 4x4
seat covers from Builders Warehouse for R290. They cover the seats
well, have some handy storage pouches and will keep the worst of
the dirt and grime off the Luxline seats. Pulling them off and giving
them a wash will also be very easy.
Stingray seat covers
I
hope I may have helped some of you. Please post questions or comments
or your advice on fitting other seats to your Hilux.
Next project
is the centre console. Metal bending here we come……..
Cheers
Scotty
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