4x4 Camping Weekend;13 - 15 January 2012;BergKraal-Vredendal

SideKick · Post by **SideKick** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:25 pm

Hi all

Over the past weekend I've dropped a lot of hints about this 4x4 Camping weekend I'm planning in Jan and got a lot of positive feedback

So while we're still in the spirit of this past weekend . . .

I'm planning another camping 4x4 weekend, much like this past year end camping 4x4 weekend, for the weekend of the 13th to the 15th of Jan at BergKraal 4x4 in Vredendal (Like Mr B said, the bar has been set quite high). I would also like to have it in the spirit of this past weekend. A great time with great people, with some 4x4 fun on the side.

Some specifics about the trail.

It is a 54km trail. In my not so professional opinion, I would rate it a level 3 - 5. The route itself is a 54km level 3 trail with every kind of challence and obstacle along the way (I think of it as a 54km play pit). From the basic to the extreme (one obstacle is know for eating axles for breakfast). Also, every difficult obstacle can be bypassed. So if you don't want to, you don't have to. Good ground clearance would be nice, but we did get 2 x stock standard Pajero's with zero ground clearance through the whole trail, so it's not an requirement. I don't thing diff lock is required, and I'm not sure about low range. By what I remember, I don't think it's required. It is a guided tour by a very awesome Oom Frikkie

. A minimum of 5 vehicles is required to do the trail. If we are a lot more than 10 vehicles, like 20, then it might have to turn into a two day route to be able do do everything, or we just start the trail earlier in the morning . . . There are portapotties scattered along the trail for if nature calls. And at the halfway mark (at the cave with the bushman paintings) we can have a quick lunch or braai. Wood and roosters will be supplied.

It's been a while and my memory is rusty, so my trail report of when I was there can be read here if you are interested:

http://hilux4x4.co.za/views/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=19301" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

For the camping part. Camping is R80pppn. Again, wood and roosters are supplied for the campsite, so we can have a lekker braai every evening

There is a geni for if needed, as well as toilets and showers. Can't remember if the geyser is gas or electricity. There is a little furnished cabin that sleeps 8 if someone is interested at R150pppn.

The trail is R150 per vehicle (which in my eyes is forniet for the trail you do

)

If anyone has any questions, please let me know!

SideKick · Post by **SideKick** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:32 pm

I'll start a new list

1. SideKick / Spikkels - Camp fees = 2 nights R 320, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 470
2. Boom / Mrs Boom - Camp fees = 2 nights R 320, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 470
3. Gerrie - To confirm
4. Jaco / Elsje - To Confirm

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:33 pm

If you don't require diffloc, then it's a max grade 3.5... and if you don't require low range... then it's a max grade 2!

Grade 5 means there's a very good chance of vehicle damage, be it cosmetic or mechanical!

Hang Stephan, if it's at all possible I'll try to join! Please give us the costs involved as this(+fuel monies) will probably be the determining factor!

B

Sorry ja, see you got the costs... and a spit braai?

SideKick · Post by **SideKick** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:36 pm

Mr_B wrote:If you don't require diffloc, then it's a max grade 3.5... and if you don't require low range... then it's a max grade 2!

Grade 5 means there's a very good chance of vehicle damage, be it cosmetic or mechanical!

Hang Stephan, if it's at all possible I'll try to join! Please give us the costs involved as this(+fuel monies) will probably be the determining factor!

B

Sorry ja, see you got the costs... and a spit braai?

If we are enough ppl, then I'm sure we can organise another spit braai

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:37 pm

Sounds awesome SW. Will see how my calendar works out for the new year, and let you know.

We might have some big training session on that weekend..

GI Jane · Post by **GI Jane** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:50 pm

I"m keen, when do you want final numbers by.....

GI Jane · Post by **GI Jane** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:52 pm

and maybe instead of having a spitbraai, we have a potjie cook-off.... later on we have all the correct numbers we organize a few teams to cook different potjies, or is that too much like hard work...

SideKick · Post by **SideKick** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:01 pm

vald wrote:I"m keen, when do you want final numbers by.....

Mmm . . . I don't know. Depends, if we do something like the spit, then we will need to know up front. If not spit, then I guess by the day before

vald wrote:and maybe instead of having a spitbraai, we have a potjie cook-off.... later on we have all the correct numbers we organize a few teams to cook different potjies, or is that too much like hard work...

That sounds like fun too. I just feel sorry for the ppl on my team

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:02 pm

I've got some wilds-vleis looking for a pot! Maybe one of the boerseuns... aka Boetie... could give me some lessons!

truckin · Post by **truckin** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:37 pm

Mr_B wrote:I've got some wilds-vleis looking for a pot! Maybe one of the boerseuns... aka Boetie... could give me some lessons!

Ja Mr-B you, Kim and the kids must come visit one saterday then i'll teach you a few tricks on potjie, (but come early) a good potjie take's the whole day to make, aspecially wild, must be nice and tender and soft when its done,

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:45 pm

truckin wrote:must be nice and tender and soft when its done,

Just like the ouens who makes the potjie by the time it is done.....

SideKick · Post by **SideKick** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:46 pm

My Brother-in-Law apparantly has a very nice Biltong and Yoghurt potjie . . . Maybe I'll try his recipy . . .

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:47 pm

I do an unbeatable brannewyn-and-coke pot... just add ice and enjoy...

truckin · Post by **truckin** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:59 pm

ThysdJ wrote:
truckin wrote:must be nice and tender and soft when its done,
Just like the ouens who makes the potjie by the time it is done.....

Jy weet mos n mens meet n potjie se kook tyd in bottle

wild vat so 2 bottle om gaar te wees

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:05 pm

I'll team up with Stubs... from past experience we have the winning formula... a Nestle Kingcone and James King 21yr old Whiskey pot!

I'm lead to believe it's unbeatable!

SideKick · Post by **SideKick** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:17 pm

Mr_B wrote:I'll team up with Stubs... from past experience we have the winning formula... a Nestle Kingcone and James King 21yr old Whiskey pot!

I'm lead to believe it's unbeatable!

You can make the dessert potjie . . . :party:

swartvark · Post by **swartvark** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:15 pm

Dit klink na 'n jol!!!
Ons sal ook graag wil gaan, maar sal natuurlik nog datums ens moet check.

Ek sal die potjies "judge" want kook kan ek nie!!!

Wil jy dit 'n CLUB ding maak?

swartvark · Post by **swartvark** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:34 pm

Come on guys & girls...did you check out Stephans Bergkraal pics....LEKKERRR MAN!!!

SideKick · Post by **SideKick** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:36 pm

swartvark wrote:Wil jy dit 'n CLUB ding maak?

Mmm ... Wat dink julle? Ek het klaar n paar vriende genooi en Gerrie van die wegRy wil ook kom laaste wat ons gepraat het.

SideKick · Post by **SideKick** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:26 am

Hi

Great news! If we are 10 vehicles, then Frikkie will drop the price of the camping to R50 pppn

SideKick · Post by **SideKick** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:30 am

And just one more thing. The potjie . . .

I believe that is a timely process and we might not have enough time. What we can do is either have the potjie competision the friday night, or we split the trail into two days. Half Saturday and half Sunday.

What do you guys think?

GI Jane · Post by **GI Jane** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:34 am

Probably on the Friday night, if the trail is all day. It may be better to do the trail in one day... and Sunday pack up day....

swartvark · Post by **swartvark** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:25 am

vald wrote:Probably on the Friday night, if the trail is all day. It may be better to do the trail in one day... and Sunday pack up day....

I agree on that one Val.

Sondag wil ek RUS!!.........ek dink ek gaan dit nodig he na die Saaarag se speel!

SideKick · Post by **SideKick** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:27 am

vald wrote:Probably on the Friday night, if the trail is all day. It may be better to do the trail in one day... and Sunday pack up day....

I also think so.

And Frikkie doesn't mind what time we arrive friday or leave sunday. If you want to arrive 8:00am and leave 8:00pm, then that's fine.

GI Jane · Post by **GI Jane** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:29 am

Potjies can take anything from 1 1/2 to 3 hrs, and if it is meat that takes longer to cook that can even be partially precooked at home beforehand.....so that gives may give us enough time for the potjie on Friday....

Andre du preez · Post by **Andre du preez** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:46 am

Kan julle nie die trip later in die maand reel nie. Ek wil so graag saam gaan.

SideKick · Post by **SideKick** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:56 am

Andre du preez wrote:Kan julle nie die trip later in die maand reel nie. Ek wil so graag saam gaan.

Daar is klaar n dag trip in die pyp lyn vir twee weke later in Paarl (Jan Babilons Toring) die laaste naweek van Januarie . . .

Andre du preez · Post by **Andre du preez** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:16 am

Ok, maar Stephan kan ons nie werk daar aan om vroeg volgende jaar Lambertsbaai Dunes te gaan ry nie.

SideKick · Post by **SideKick** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:20 am

Andre du preez wrote:Ok, maar Stephan kan ons nie werk daar aan om vroeg volgende jaar Lambertsbaai Dunes te gaan ry nie.

Het jy al ons kalender gesien?

Gaan kyk hier:

http://www.hilux4x4.co.za/events/western-cape.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Het jy n spesifieke naweek ingedagte?

SideKick · Post by **SideKick** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:22 am

SideKick wrote:
Andre du preez wrote:Ok, maar Stephan kan ons nie werk daar aan om vroeg volgende jaar Lambertsbaai Dunes te gaan ry nie.
Het jy al ons kalender gesien?

Gaan kyk hier:

http://www.hilux4x4.co.za/events/western-cape.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Het jy n spesifieke naweek ingedagte?

Ek sien n Lambertsbaai naweek is klaar op vir die eerste naweek in Maart

SideKick · Post by **SideKick** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:31 am

I'll start a new list

- Updated (We get the camping discount if we are 10+ vehicles camping there)

1. SideKick / Spikkels - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
2. Boom / Mrs Boom - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
3. Gerrie - To confirm
4. Jaco / Elsje - To Confirm
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11.

Andre du preez · Post by **Andre du preez** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:39 am

Ja dit klink lekker...... Ek sal graag bergkraal wou doen maar ek is daai tyd nog op die boot.

Stekel · Post by **Stekel** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:50 am

Ek ga definitief saam

Potjie klink great vir die Vrydag / Saterdagaand. Ons kan n vinnige cadac braai doen by die boesman grot.

Gan solank begin oefen vir die Pot compo !

Stekel · Post by **Stekel** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:28 am

Eks in vir die Bergkraal trip EN die Lambertsbaai trip!

swartvark · Post by **swartvark** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:21 pm

Daar behoort nie 'n probleem te wees nie.

Ek en Muis is in!!!

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:50 pm

Please add Mr B and fam to the list, after this last one Kim is enthusiatic! Not sure if it was driving BoltII or the flippin lekker geselskap that's had the desired effect?

SideKick · Post by **SideKick** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:08 pm

I'll start a new list

- Updated (We get the camping discount if we are 10+ vehicles camping there)

1. SideKick / Spikkels - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
2. Boom / Mrs Boom - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
3. Gerrie - To confirm
4. Jaco / Elsje - To Confirm
5. Bretton / Kim / 2 x kids - Camp fees = 2 nights R 400, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 550
6. Swartvark (Tiaan) / Muis (Annelize) - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
7. Stekel / Alana - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
8. Stubs - Camp fees = 2 nights R 100, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 250
9. Val ???
10.
11.

SideKick · Post by **SideKick** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:12 pm

Is dit net ek of is hierdie thread maar stil?

Kan ons nie fancy raak en hom onder die anouncemens sit nie?

GI Jane · Post by **GI Jane** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:38 pm

SideKick wrote:I'll start a new list - Updated (We get the camping discount if we are 10+ vehicles camping there)

1. SideKick / Spikkels - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
2. Boom / Mrs Boom - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
3. Gerrie - To confirm
4. Jaco / Elsje - To Confirm
5. Bretton / Kim / 2 x kids - Camp fees = 2 nights R 400, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 550
6. Swartvark (Tiaan) / Muis (Annelize) - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
7. Stekel / Alana - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
8. Stubs - Camp fees = 2 nights R 100, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 250
9. Val - Camp fees = 2 nights R 100, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 250 (to confirm)
10.
11.

swartvark · Post by **swartvark** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:54 pm

Mr_B wrote:Please add Mr B and fam to the list, after this last one Kim is enthusiatic! Not sure if it was driving BoltII or the flippin lekker geselskap that's had the desired effect?

Must be the "geselskap"..............Kim doesn't look like a Tupperware addict.

Post by **george** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:55 pm

1. SideKick / Spikkels - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
2. Boom / Mrs Boom - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
3. Gerrie - To confirm
4. Jaco / Elsje - To Confirm
5. Bretton / Kim / 2 x kids - Camp fees = 2 nights R 400, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 550
6. Swartvark (Tiaan) / Muis (Annelize) - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
7. Stekel / Alana - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
8. Stubs - Camp fees = 2 nights R 100, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 250
9. Val - Camp fees = 2 nights R 100, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 250 (to confirm)
10. George- to confirm next year
11.

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:38 pm

swartvark wrote:
Mr_B wrote:Please add Mr B and fam to the list, after this last one Kim is enthusiatic! Not sure if it was driving BoltII or the flippin lekker geselskap that's had the desired effect?

Must be the "geselskap"..............Kim doesn't look like a Tupperware addict.

Well I can tell you the tupperware cupboard in the kitchen is my least favourite! Not to worry the Bolt-On mods are already underway! It just never stops!

swartvark · Post by **swartvark** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:56 pm

Mr_B wrote:
swartvark wrote:
Mr_B wrote:Please add Mr B and fam to the list, after this last one Kim is enthusiatic! Not sure if it was driving BoltII or the flippin lekker geselskap that's had the desired effect?

Must be the "geselskap"..............Kim doesn't look like a Tupperware addict.
Well I can tell you the tupperware cupboard in the kitchen is my least favourite! Not to worry the Bolt-On mods are already underway! It just never stops!

Jip.......3 to 6mm Steel beats plastic everytime!!!!
Don't worry "B".........Bolt II is already a sexy Beast!!!

swartvark · Post by **swartvark** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:08 am

My verlof vir FRIDAY 13th

is geboek!!

Stubs · Post by **Stubs** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:50 am

SideKick wrote:I'll start a new list

1. SideKick / Spikkels - Camp fees = 2 nights R 320, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 470
2. Boom / Mrs Boom - Camp fees = 2 nights R 320, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 470
3. Gerrie - To confirm
4. Jaco / Elsje - To Confirm

5. Stubs to confirm

Stubs · Post by **Stubs** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:52 am

SideKick wrote:I'll start a new list

1. SideKick / Spikkels - Camp fees = 2 nights R 320, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 470
2. Boom / Mrs Boom - Camp fees = 2 nights R 320, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 470
3. Gerrie - To confirm
4. Jaco / Elsje - To Confirm

5. Stubs to confirm

SideKick · Post by **SideKick** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:47 am

1. SideKick / Spikkels - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
2. Boom / Mrs Boom - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
3. Gerrie - To confirm
4. Jaco / Elsje - To Confirm
5. Bretton / Kim / 2 x kids - Camp fees = 2 nights R 400, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 550
6. Swartvark (Tiaan) / Muis (Annelize) - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
7. Stekel / Alana - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
8. Stubs - Camp fees = 2 nights R 100, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 250 (to confirm)
9. Val - Camp fees = 2 nights R 100, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 250 (to confirm)
10. George- to confirm next year
11.

SideKick · Post by **SideKick** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:42 am

Mr_B wrote:If you don't require diffloc, then it's a max grade 3.5... and if you don't require low range... then it's a max grade 2!

Grade 5 means there's a very good chance of vehicle damage, be it cosmetic or mechanical!

OK. I went through all my pics of my last visit there. Even if you skip all possible obstacles, you will still need low range . . .

Stubs · Post by **Stubs** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:25 pm

anyone want to sponsor my fuel for this weekend ...its nearly 400 clicks from my office in Caledon.....4y divided by 5k's/l = staying at home....

swartvark · Post by **swartvark** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:31 pm

Stubs wrote:anyone want to sponsor my fuel for this weekend ...its nearly 400 clicks from my office in Caledon.....4y divided by 5k's/l = staying at home....

You can tow your Lux there with the Corsa..............you'll get there faster and save on fuel!!

Stubs · Post by **Stubs** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:40 pm

now you talking...hehehehe...nah I will be there... just gonna leave on the Tuesday and take a slow drive...

Johannes van die See · Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:26 pm

As ek nog in die land is sal ons dit probeer maak!

1. SideKick / Spikkels - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
2. Boom / Mrs Boom - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
3. Gerrie - To confirm
4. Jaco / Elsje - To Confirm
5. Bretton / Kim / 2 x kids - Camp fees = 2 nights R 400, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 550
6. Swartvark (Tiaan) / Muis (Annelize) - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
7. Stekel / Alana - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
8. Stubs - Camp fees = 2 nights R 100, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 250 (to confirm)
9. Val - Camp fees = 2 nights R 100, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 250 (to confirm)
10. George- to confirm next year
11.Johannes + Bianca + 2 klonge - To confirm early next year.

SideKick · Post by **SideKick** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:02 pm

1. SideKick / Spikkels - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
2. Boom / Mrs Boom - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
3. Gerrie en Mev Gerrie - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
4. Jaco / Elsje - To Confirm
5. Bretton / Kim / 2 x kids - Camp fees = 2 nights R 400, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 550
6. Swartvark (Tiaan) / Muis (Annelize) - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
7. Stekel / Alana - Camp fees = 2 nights R 200, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 350
8. Stubs - Camp fees = 2 nights R 100, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 250 (to confirm)
9. Val - Camp fees = 2 nights R 100, Trail Fee = R 150 Total to pay R 250 (to confirm)
10. George- to confirm next year
11.Johannes + Bianca + 2 klonge - To confirm early next year.

GI Jane · Post by **GI Jane** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:15 pm

Yippee... looks like we're getting a nice size group together.... my radio will be fitted by then and good chance to test it out...

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:28 am

Without wanting to upset anyone, I'm 50/50 at this point, will only be able to confirm in the first week of Jan!

truckin · Post by **truckin** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:37 pm

Uhmm, ek stel belang, as daar nog n gaatjie is vir my, maar ek sal ook eers 1st week jan weet waar ek staan met die oes, dit sal bepaal of ek in is of uit, (Sidekick wats jou afsny datum vir hierdie byeenkoms?)

SideKick · Post by **SideKick** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:19 pm

There is no D-Day where we will say you can't come anymore. But I would like to know by the 8th so that I can give Frikkie accurate figures of how many people to expect.

Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:18 pm

Ok, me thinks it sound like a good idea, can i take my scooters or are they full of crap?

GI Jane · Post by **GI Jane** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:54 pm

Allan copied off their website ". Motorfietse ook welkom - koste beloop R50 per motorfiets".... so yes they are welcome......

Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:55 pm

Sounds like a good idea then