What clutch to use? 4x4 D4D

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What clutch to use? 4x4 D4D

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Seems the releaser bearing on the lux is on its way out.

I want to replace the entire clutch kit

Any suggestions on whether to use the genuine toyota clutch kit or is there anything better? I used an afternarket kit on the RunX and its 10 times better than the stock one.

Also, can anyone provide indications on pricing?
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Nishan I must also do a clucth change my Pilot bearing is going and Im going with a LUK the stock Toyota one is useless.

Prices I got range between R2550 and R2800
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thanks A.J. is that price just for the clutch or including fitment?
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Kit alone I got prices for fitment from R1500 to R1800
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LUK is goeie clutch. Spaar op die labour en doen dit self saam met n vriend of 2, dis nie so moeilik nie.
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I took the clutchplate in for relining with kavlar - you will never have to replace the clutchplate again. I am impressed with the difference. Speak to Shawn at Gearbox Co. 011 805 6500 Midrand. It's a bit pricey R1 425 - clutchplate only
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Try SACHS Clutch, sorry lost the number there is a branch in Jhb and Pta.

Around R1450.00 complete kit
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Do one of you guys know where I can get a gearbox jack?
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En kan iemand dalk vir my stap vir stap verduidelik hoe hom dit self te doen ek het nie n clue hoe nie??

Groot asb.
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AJ, ek weet nie van iemand wat die prosess gedoc het nie maar lees eers hier:

http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenan ... intenance/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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A.J. wrote:En kan iemand dalk vir my stap vir stap verduidelik hoe hom dit self te doen ek het nie n clue hoe nie??

Groot asb.
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So paar jaar terug op 'n fishing week in Moz het ons Cruiser se clutch die gees gegee. Dit het x3 van ons 2 volle dae geneem (met al die tools) en bakstene... om die flippen ding te verander.

Ons was eintlik 4 maar daar was meer plek in die pub gewees volgens my :roll:
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Bulletjie-3 wrote:I took the clutchplate in for relining with kavlar - you will never have to replace the clutchplate again. I am impressed with the difference. Speak to Shawn at Gearbox Co. 011 805 6500 Midrand. It's a bit pricey R1 425 - clutchplate only
thanks Ewerdt, but what about when other parts of the clutch kit wear? like when the releaser bearing eventually wears? you would need to change the releaser bearing but not the clutch?
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As julle SACHS soek kan julle by Diesel Electric hoor.
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ek het myne ook met n sachs vervang is maar nie goedkoop nie
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Hoe is die Sachs clutch

Ek het n pel wat al die tools en jacks het hyt gesê hy sal dit vir my doen en dan kan ek kyk hy sal my mooi wys.
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Oja Cassie weet jy van n diesel electric hier in ons valley? Ek weet net van die een in PTA?
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A.J. wrote: Im going with a LUK the stock Toyota one is useless.
AJ. jammer om jou bubble te bars. Die Toyota clutch en die LUK is presiese dieselfde ding!!!
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A.J. wrote:Oja Cassie weet jy van n diesel electric hier in ons valley? Ek weet net van die een in PTA?
Daar is takke in Germiston en Springs
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Uys wrote:
A.J. wrote: Im going with a LUK the stock Toyota one is useless.
AJ. jammer om jou bubble te bars. Die Toyota clutch en die LUK is presiese dieselfde ding!!!

Ag dankie dan gaan ek defnitief nie n LUK kry nie
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Thanks Nishan that was my approaching angle aswell. So my theory is as follows :a 4*4 really uses its clutch and one changes the clutch most of the times because the plate is worn and not due the the noisey thrustbearing or seldom for the pressure plate defect. Keep in mind that one can burn the clutchplate aswell due to overheating. So if I can elliminate the most common problem - clutchplate that is worn - then I have one problem less. Shawn is very much involved with the Land Rover club and they are much inpressed with the results. I have used a new thrustbearing and pressure plate on mine - so only time will tell. I hope I have one less thing to worry about.
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FUDGES wrote:Do one of you guys know where I can get a gearbox jack?
self prefer pulling the motor to do the clutch!!
a much cleaner way of doing it!!
no heavy 4x4 gearbox to deal with!!

on a Ford Sierra did the full job in 3hrs15min alone

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Bulletjie-3 wrote:Thanks Nishan that was my approaching angle aswell. So my theory is as follows :a 4*4 really uses its clutch and one changes the clutch most of the times because the plate is worn and not due the the noisey thrustbearing or seldom for the pressure plate defect. Keep in mind that one can burn the clutchplate aswell due to overheating. So if I can elliminate the most common problem - clutchplate that is worn - then I have one problem less. Shawn is very much involved with the Land Rover club and they are much inpressed with the results. I have used a new thrustbearing and pressure plate on mine - so only time will tell. I hope I have one less thing to worry about.
cool. makes sense. does the new coated clutch "bite" more? as in it grips better with less clutch slip?
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Yes it feel more direct - so far I like the difference to what it was.
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ok so i changed my clutch.
bought a LUK from Gemini parts. Full kit

My mac fitted it yesterday. Now the clutch disengages like .5cm or less from having the clutch fully depressed.
also, its not taking gears as smooth as before.
especially 1st and reverse but does it with all gears. u have a maybe tap the accelerator to blip the revs before it will engage the next gear.
when it doesnt take first u have to pump the clutch before it will go in.

ideas? could it be the clutch is a pirate version of luk?
or not installed properly?
or is there a resevoir with clutch fluid that i should check?
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FUDGES wrote:Do one of you guys know where I can get a gearbox jack?
Adendorff machinary mart R1995.
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jacques kotze wrote:
FUDGES wrote:Do one of you guys know where I can get a gearbox jack?
Adendorff machinary mart R1995.
Daai jack werk. Arbeid om clutch te vervang hoor ek is so ±R3000. Doen dit self, dan het jy 'n transmission jack en jy spaar 'n duisend rand. 2 weke terug myne gedoen - moet sê ek wil dit nie gou weer doen nie.
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