Hilux 4x4 Forum

SUBJECT: LAND CRUISER 78 WAGON INTRODUCTION

BACKGROUND
The Toyota Land Cruiser 70 range has terrain interrogating vehicles designed with a very low
mechanical complexity threshold, and high build quality synonymous with Toyota, helping these
vehicles live up to its Indestructible heritage.
As from the last quarter of this year there will be an addition to the LC70 family, in the form of
the Land Cruiser 78 – Wagon.
LAND CRUISER 70
LC79-Pick-Up
LC78-Wagon
LC76-Station Wagon
LC78-Wagon is Toyota's rugged, off-road people carrier for overland purposes.
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*PICTURE IS NOT EXACT TO S.A. SPECIFICATIONS AND MAY DIFFER IN REALITY
MODEL
Single Grade LC78:
• The 4.2 Diesel engine (96kW, 285Nm)
MODEL LINE-UP
Model LC78-4.2 Diesel
Short model code 33A
Engine 1HZ
Power (kW) 96kW
Torque (Nm) 285Nm
Transmission 5MT
PRODUCT
REF: 8/2010/1
DATE: 2010-08-02
SPECIFICATION
Dimensions & Angles
LC78 4.2D
Length (mm) 4990
Height (mm) 2115
Width (mm) 1770
Wheelbase (mm) 2980
Approach angle (degrees) 38
Departure angle (degrees) 25
Fuel tank (litres) 90+90
Exterior Style
- Front bumper: Extension moulding
- Rear bumper: Black painted with rear combination lamp
- Side and rear steps: Steel, painted
- Mud Guards
Interior Style
- Air conditioner
- High grade speedometer with tachometer
- Steering column design, featuring tilt, telescopic & collapsible
- Steering wheel design – 4-spoke urethane (common with LC76 & 79)
- Instrument & centre cluster panel design & material (steel to plastic/resin)
- Bottle holder front
- Roof headlining is molded, allowing for increased head clearance
- Ash tray & cigarette lighter with lamp
- Floor cover – Vinyl, flocking
SAFETY
- Driver & Passenger Airbags
- Extended front bumper (reduces airbag response in off-road conditions)
TYRE SPEC
LC78 4.2D
Make Yokohama
Size 7.50R16-8(E)5.50F
Speed Rating 180km/h
PAINT COLOURS
- Standard order colours are:
Code Colour- TMC
Descriptor
Colour – TSAM
Descriptor
058 White Ivory White
4E9 Beige Sand Beige
SEAT ARRANGEMENT
TRIM CODES
Code Interior-Descriptor
LB10 Bluish Grey Vinyl
PRICING
R428 800

Nice ja, die Troopie?

Maar kyk die kwaai prys. Dis nie veel goedkoper as die 76 nie.

Hmmmm ja....prys...maar ook net bietjie duurder as die 3.0 D4D D/C :wink2:

Ongelukkig nie bekostigbaar binne my budget nie. Gelukkig is ek happy met Hilux.

Traveler wrote:Ongelukkig nie bekostigbaar binne my budget nie. Gelukkig is ek happy met Hilux.

Stem H, daai 4.2 doen dit nie vir my nie....

I'm surprised... with all the advancements in diesel tech 96kw and 285nm... for a 4.2D 6-Pot is pretty poor, albeit a non-turbo engine!

My 4Y give 92kw and 200nm!

Mr_B wrote:I'm surprised... with all the advancements in diesel tech 96kw and 285nm... for a 4.2D 6-Pot is pretty poor, albeit a non-turbo engine!

My 4Y give 92kw and 200nm!

And it's a bit of a donkey, and heavier on juice than any D4D....

Ek hou van daai Troopie idee en dit sal perfek wees vir my dinge, maar ek sal nog lank nie daai prys klas kan meeding nie. Ook dink ek is my SFA ligter op sous as daai 4.2 D, so dan hou ek maar my 4Y....Maar ek sal maar droom oor so een met die D4D enjin in...

Can't make up my mind on this one, but the rear section with the high window sills looks more like an after-market add-on. Might look better in real life than it appears in the photos.

But the 76 SW still looks better!


-F_D

This is a utilitarian vehicle, a workhorse. How does Toyota SA justify a price tag of R428 800 for a vehicle that is basically 1980's technology with a 1980's bodyshape and 1940's comfort specs? That is just nuts. These vehicles are phenominal, and I would buy one of these in an instant, but at that price I would rather buy 4 SFA Hiluxes and still have money to spare to spruce them up properly.

Where are the guys from Toyota SA? I would like to hear their side of the story.

ThysdJ wrote:This is a utilitarian vehicle, a workhorse. How does Toyota SA justify a price tag of R428 800 for a vehicle that is basically 1980's technology with a 1980's bodyshape and 1940's comfort specs? That is just nuts. These vehicles are phenominal, and I would buy one of these in an instant, but at that price I would rather buy 4 SFA Hiluxes and still have money to spare to spruce them up properly.

Where are the guys from Toyota SA? I would like to hear their side of the story.

I think Toyota SA must have their brains in a knot with this (fantastic) vehile's price. Why this price? whats wrong with them?

hi am on the second one now the new one being the wide front 2010, we get them from SAS dubai $36600 landed in Guinee. chassis is same as bakkie but with much softer suspension. very good truck and suits the hard conditions, interior is huge but makes the car noisy (no insulation), however they are expensive to run, old truck 2004 with 304000km average cons 6.7 klms / litre, this one 68000km avg 7.2/litre, tyre life is very bad 30thou if youre lucky(each oil change 13l ) we have 36 PC(personel carriers) and bakkie cruisers(all 4.2 d) on the mine plus 16 old IFS 2.8 hiluxes still going, the owner operating costs , the cruisers win simply because of their long life some of the original ones hitting 800000kms, at the end of the day if it an't toyota we do'nt buy it.

Good to hear Uncle Dan.

BTW
Recommended retail price:
R459 800.00

hi george I hear the excuse is that in sa they are full imports not local assembly something to do with tax, apparently austrailan model!!!!! I will try and check this out smell a rat.

i wonder what makes these vans so expensive??

Its not like it has a state-of-he art Motor or luxurious interior??

Plus the shape is timeless.

Id much rather just get a d4d.

I agree with Thys & Shane. Great vehicle but another case of Toyota South Africa being so full of themselves in trying to palm off this utilitarian vehicle (a damn good one) on a public that has sucked up their nonsense for so long they think they've actually succeeded in pulling the wool over our eyes. If they think they can continue this forever, they are going to fall down to earth with a hard bump when their all precious 'market share' starts falling.

Then let's hear their justification on why it has happened!!!

Almost makes me ashamed to drive one of their products!!!!



I said 'ALMOST"...........

I'll buy a 76 thanks.

Eendag as ek groot is, maar n pick-up vir my dankie. Ek sal een by koop , maar nooit my Lux verkoop vir een nie.

aussie fellows here tell me it is a popular car in aus were it sells for around AUS$ 51000 don't know what the ZAR / AUS$ exchange rate is, they also say there are plenty second hand vehicles around for 17000 to 20000 A$, thou the 100 serries is still king

Oom Dan, twee van my vriende in Tanz werk al 5jr daar op 'n myn, met Cruisers, ja 100. Die myn het toe besluit om dit te vervang met Clot's en na 8 maande kan die vensters nie meer oopmaak nie, die deurpanele val af en als binne rattle....

That's why they say the Cruiser is King of Africa

mark we worked on a mine in tanzania as well, the client had land rovers, 200 and 300 seriers TDI's, don't like running down other makes and these were driven by expats, they had a light vehicle store with $2mill worth of spares but never managed to keep more than 50% of the vehicles running, major failures ,gearboxes, rear diff's,burnt wireing looms you name it put off LR's for life. I can't sit in the things knees and elbows banging into things only see out of half the windscreen, hear the new ones are vastly improved. funny how toyota always kick off a new vehicle properly from the start and keep it there. have a good toyota day.

Oom Dan, your my kinda friend :!:

I always have a Toyota day

Awesome cars, these Troopies.

I bought mine in October 2010, one of the very first sold by Toyota SA.

Made it into a full 7 seater, with some stuff added. The 3d rear door was done by Des Meano.

Lyk soos 'n Toyota Stallion..... Maar in 4x4

Rebel 4x4 wrote:Lyk soos 'n Toyota Stallion..... Maar in 4x4

Seker net as jy uit 'n unimog se venster uitkyk

Is daar iemand in die Kaap wat daai deur kan bou? Ons het onlangs een gekoop, maar hy werk nie so lekker vir ons sonder die deur nie.

I still think Des Meano does a better doublecab conversion than Toyota themselves.Toyota used the same door as 76 with the wheel arch cut out although the double cab does not need it.Des Meano use a full door

I Like

Tokkie, it's quite a job, it stood 2 months at Meano's. Des strenghtened everything, and I instructed him to not use ANY body filler, only cut below the roof gutter, and fit a wind-up window (not a sliding one - I was concerned about rattles).

Cost was about R 20 000.........best money I EVER spent. The Troopy was featured in some Wegry magazine a while back, the issue with the Patrol on its cover, and something like "To Hell and Back" article.

It now basically has the same seating configuration as a VW Kombi. And the 2 benches fold flat and lever to form quite a big bed.

Rebel 4x4 wrote:Lyk soos 'n Toyota Stallion..... Maar in 4x4

.........lyk darem noggie soos 'n Passat nie