How not to do a recovery

Kaaskrul · Post by **Kaaskrul** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:32 pm

Wow!!! Eish.

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Post by **Mud Dog** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:20 pm

I wonder if they realise just how lucky they were .... that could have had a far more serious outcome

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:09 am

These guys are so lucky they should buy lotto tickets every week and they WILL win... every time..

But let this be a lesson.. do we keep spectators far enough away when we do recoveries??

Wurmscooby · Post by **Wurmscooby** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:46 am

agree could have been fatal.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:10 pm

ThysdJ wrote:These guys are so lucky they should buy lotto tickets every week and they WILL win... every time..

But let this be a lesson.. do we keep spectators far enough away when we do recoveries??

At the very least to be away from any part of the recovery by 1½ times the length of the recovery strap / rope.

It's all been said many times before, but still cannot be stressed enough. Tow-bars / bumpers are not for recovery unless properly braced with reinforced mountings and suitably rated bolts. If there are no recovery points, 2nd best option is the axle, BUT, only attach right up against and to the inside of the U-bolt. Axle housings can bend easier than you may think.

Post by **FIRSTGEER** » Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:18 am

Eina. Dont think those two buggers will stand near a recovery again in a hurry !

Pietman · Post by **Pietman** » Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:23 am

Eisch. This could have been fatal!!!

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:54 pm

Mud Dog wrote:
ThysdJ wrote:These guys are so lucky they should buy lotto tickets every week and they WILL win... every time..

But let this be a lesson.. do we keep spectators far enough away when we do recoveries??
At the very least to be away from any part of the recovery by 1½ times the length of the recovery strap / rope.

It's all been said many times before, but still cannot be stressed enough. Tow-bars / bumpers are not for recovery unless properly braced with reinforced mountings and suitably rated bolts. If there are no recovery points,2nd best option is the axle, BUT, only attach right up against and to the inside of the U-bolt. Axle housings can bend easier than you may think.

Julle ouens in Oos Londen se axles is lekker stewig..

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sun Aug 11, 2013 4:49 am

ThysdJ wrote:
Mud Dog wrote:
ThysdJ wrote:These guys are so lucky they should buy lotto tickets every week and they WILL win... every time..

But let this be a lesson.. do we keep spectators far enough away when we do recoveries??
At the very least to be away from any part of the recovery by 1½ times the length of the recovery strap / rope.

It's all been said many times before, but still cannot be stressed enough. Tow-bars / bumpers are not for recovery unless properly braced with reinforced mountings and suitably rated bolts. If there are no recovery points,2nd best option is the axle, BUT, only attach right up against and to the inside of the U-bolt. Axle housings can bend easier than you may think.
Julle ouens in Oos Londen se axles is lekker stewig..

Jy willie sal weetie!

Hangover · Post by **Hangover** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:12 am

Stupid people doing stupid things...

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Hangover · Post by **Hangover** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:22 am

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ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:19 pm

This guy doesnt come from East London... And the fact that its a Jeep also has nothing to do with it.. Careful when attaching snatch ropes to axles ...

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Rather go for a bridle wrapped around a chassis member with a dead shackle.. that way the wheels stay where they are supposed to be..

Post by **Mud Dog** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:58 pm

Hear what you're saying Thys, but that's a bit of an exaggerated example don't you think? I mean, firstly the recovery direction is wrong (very bad in fact), and with force like that the chassis would have probably been bent anyway. I reckon they would probably have damaged any vehicle with that kind of effort, recovery points or not.

The thing I have against attaching ropes / straps to the chassis rails is that they have to come up against some form of 'stop' that prevents them slipping along the rail and very often these have edges that will cut / damage / compromise the strap, and when it snaps there, the shackle goes flying. Also most of the time there are electrical / fuel / brake lines running alongside the rails which could be compromised and lead to further problems.

I know it's not ideal to attach to the axle - there is a risk of shearing the locating pin and the axle moves on the leaf pack, probably less chance of snapping two thick tensile u-bolts, but also possible with enough force.
I dunno, obviously one would have to assess each scenario on it's own merits / pitfalls, but generally I would still be inclined to opt for the axle.

Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:11 pm

I take a graded chain & connectors with me if i do recoverys, the axle is not the ideal place to snatch, if i don't trust the recovery points, i use my chain.

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:48 pm

Hoppy has the correct answer to this problem, and that black chain is a neat piece of work. A dead shackle cannot fly. It just drops to the ground like a stone.

You are quite correct Andy, every situation should be assessed and handled on its own merit, but even then, I would not use an axle as a place to attach a recovery strap. I would much rather risk losing a strap than losing or dislocating an axle.

JEEPIE · Post by **JEEPIE** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:21 am

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