Why we do not buy Isuzu
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Why we do not buy Isuzu
I know this is totally off-topic and off-forum but I could not resist it.
The vehicle below was spotted somewhere near Springbok this week.
What happened to old Koos vd Merwe in Pretoria who had a similar problem and sued Isuzu?
Hierdie een het net voor die agter-as geknak.
The vehicle below was spotted somewhere near Springbok this week.
What happened to old Koos vd Merwe in Pretoria who had a similar problem and sued Isuzu?
Hierdie een het net voor die agter-as geknak.
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Poor oke.Now Isuzu will say it is not standard stuff that he fitted.
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No matter what the make of vehicle, it is always sad to see this sort of thing happening. In spite of the Koos van der Merwe incident, I have always had (and still do) a high regard for Isuzus. Would be interesting to hear what the cause of this one was.... maybe Koos sold it to the guy in Springbok :)
Anybody know what the outcome of the original van der Merwe bakkie was?
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Re: Why we do not buy Isuzu
In that photo, it looks like the support brackets in the front of the load body ripped out, not a chassis problem.
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The guy who took the photo looked underneath. He tried to take a photo but it came out pitch black. It is the chassis.
Same problem as http://www.my4x4.co.za/Eng/album.html
Same problem as http://www.my4x4.co.za/Eng/album.html
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Re: Why we do not buy Isuzu
Just do yourself a favour and check out the lines between the cab and the load bin on every Isuzu of that shape you see from now on. Chances are very good that those lines are not running parallel.
The first time I came home with my 1999 KB250D after a weekend away at a Game Farm, my load bin was doing the same. Not as severe but the same. I did not have my canopy on at the time nor was anything loaded on the load bin. I was doing about 80km/h when I hit pothole/ditch on a gravel road. Nothing serious though, rims, shocks, suspension blades, everything was in tact only the chassis were slightly bend. I fitted some pieces of flat bar (about 20mm) for spacers under the mounting rubbers that the load bin was resting on to get the alignment of the body and load bin correct again. By the time I sold it a year later I had to add more spacers (about 10 mm) as it sagged again.
The first time I came home with my 1999 KB250D after a weekend away at a Game Farm, my load bin was doing the same. Not as severe but the same. I did not have my canopy on at the time nor was anything loaded on the load bin. I was doing about 80km/h when I hit pothole/ditch on a gravel road. Nothing serious though, rims, shocks, suspension blades, everything was in tact only the chassis were slightly bend. I fitted some pieces of flat bar (about 20mm) for spacers under the mounting rubbers that the load bin was resting on to get the alignment of the body and load bin correct again. By the time I sold it a year later I had to add more spacers (about 10 mm) as it sagged again.
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Thanks Bennie, I think that is the only Isuzu owner who will admit it, the one who sold his Isuzu
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Ja that was my 1st and last Isuzu and also my 1st and last diesel.
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Re: Why we do not buy Isuzu
Hi all,
Well, my first post here - joined this morning.
This Isuzu belongs to Deon Kotze. Read his full story at http://isuzuoffroad.co.za/index.php?nam ... pic&t=3212
Not a good one. I stand to be corrected, but Koos vd Merwe is driving LR Defender now with signage: "Nooit weer 'n Isuzu nie" all over it...
Cheers,
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Well, my first post here - joined this morning.
This Isuzu belongs to Deon Kotze. Read his full story at http://isuzuoffroad.co.za/index.php?nam ... pic&t=3212
Not a good one. I stand to be corrected, but Koos vd Merwe is driving LR Defender now with signage: "Nooit weer 'n Isuzu nie" all over it...
Cheers,
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Hi JacquesKZ,
Welcome to the forum!
Off now to read Deon's Story...
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Off now to read Deon's Story...
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Re: Why we do not buy Isuzu
I suspect that this was a driver problem, that is, hitting one hell'va hole/hump at speed and fully loaded. So don't be to hard on the Isuzu!
Of course it would be a different story with a Toyota!!!!
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Hi Harold,
Not so, according to the report that Deon wrote. He hit a dune at 50km/hr and was not heavily loaded at the time. He was on the way to a workshop to have the engine seen to, which suffered sudden power-loss when going over another dune. (This was apparently caused by the cam belt slipping a tooth or two, probably as a result of high revs when the front of the bakkie landed on Mother Earth again.) Apparently this was a known weakness of the Isuzu chassis of that particular model.
Back in the days when Klerksdorp still had scrap yards (I so miss those days ) I noticed a pile of about nine bakkie chassis all piled on top of each other. Upon enquiry, the scrap yard owner told me they were all Isuzu chassis. At the time I still wondered where the rest of the Isuzu components were. Isuzu made a serious blaps with this one!
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Not so, according to the report that Deon wrote. He hit a dune at 50km/hr and was not heavily loaded at the time. He was on the way to a workshop to have the engine seen to, which suffered sudden power-loss when going over another dune. (This was apparently caused by the cam belt slipping a tooth or two, probably as a result of high revs when the front of the bakkie landed on Mother Earth again.) Apparently this was a known weakness of the Isuzu chassis of that particular model.
Back in the days when Klerksdorp still had scrap yards (I so miss those days ) I noticed a pile of about nine bakkie chassis all piled on top of each other. Upon enquiry, the scrap yard owner told me they were all Isuzu chassis. At the time I still wondered where the rest of the Isuzu components were. Isuzu made a serious blaps with this one!
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Don't know if that is a great improvement, some people just never learnKoos vd Merwe is driving LR Defender now with signage: "Nooit weer 'n Isuzu nie" all over it...
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F/D - I stand corrected and will now scrap Isuzu from the 10 place of my list of a possible replacement.
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He he, ya Piet - but I tend to think that LR may have offered an attractive deal for the publicity side of things and probably sponsored the signage as well :roll:pietpetoors wrote:Don't know if that is a great improvement, some people just never learnKoos vd Merwe is driving LR Defender now with signage: "Nooit weer 'n Isuzu nie" all over it...
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I think LR is sweating.Just imagine the racket he is going to make when the Landy starts to break.
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I think the Isuzu is even underneath the Landrover and Mahindra in our list, probably just above the Tata.
When I decided to sell the Terrano and start looking for a replacement, my 12 year old daughter asked me "What are you going to buy" So I told her, probably an old Land Cruiser or Hilux bakkie, she then replied with "Oh thank goodness, as long as it is not something like an Isuzu"scrap Isuzu from the 10 place of my list of a possible replacement.
I think the Isuzu is even underneath the Landrover and Mahindra in our list, probably just above the Tata.
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In defense of the beleaguered Isuzu.
Maybe we are just basing our opinions of a few bad luck stories.
I know a number of fellows who drive Isuzu’s, these are hardworking Isuzu’s belonging to farmers, and they are happy with them.
Like Toyota, it could be that the older models are superior in quality & reliability than the newer models.
Maybe we are just basing our opinions of a few bad luck stories.
I know a number of fellows who drive Isuzu’s, these are hardworking Isuzu’s belonging to farmers, and they are happy with them.
Like Toyota, it could be that the older models are superior in quality & reliability than the newer models.
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I will rather push my Hi lux before I drive a Isuzu :D
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Hmmm. Think I'll stick with my very fuel efficient Tata... :)
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Probably because it was on the back of an AA truck 80% of the waylancebregman wrote:Hmmm. Think I'll stick with my very fuel efficient Tata... :)
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It's like buying a miniature Doberman for a guard dog because they don't eat much.
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Hoppy wrote:It's like buying a miniature Doberman for a guard dog because they don't eat much.
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I think throwing yourself off your roof every so often is going to cause problems. The same applies to your vehicle. Drive in the soft sand at the waters edge and get stuck. It was probably a defective diff loc coz it wouldn't pull itself out......................
As long as there are drivers (who don't admit it) who push the limits of the product you are going to have bad products. It would be interesting to see the ratio of bad drivers verus bad products. How many SFA drivers will admit to the front chassis leg cracking behind the front shock????
As long as there are drivers (who don't admit it) who push the limits of the product you are going to have bad products. It would be interesting to see the ratio of bad drivers verus bad products. How many SFA drivers will admit to the front chassis leg cracking behind the front shock????
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You are right... every vehicle has it's limits but some vehicles set the bar really lowAM Racing wrote:I think throwing yourself off your roof every so often is going to cause problems. The same applies to your vehicle. Drive in the soft sand at the waters edge and get stuck. It was probably a defective diff loc coz it wouldn't pull itself out......................
As long as there are drivers (who don't admit it) who push the limits of the product you are going to have bad products. It would be interesting to see the ratio of bad drivers verus bad products. How many SFA drivers will admit to the front chassis leg cracking behind the front shock????
Regarding the chassis leg????? Not sure what you are referring to?
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I've seen a few (4 come to mind) SFA's in my shop where the chassis leg has iether cracked and/or broken right through behind the shock mount. BUT BUT BUT..... The SFA is a formidable 4x4 so what is the reason? Idiot drivers? Abuse? I think this is more the case. They were vehicles used and abused in the Transkei.
Would I buy an Isuzu? Yes. Would I buy a LR? NO! I've dealt with the tears of people who bought them thinking they had the ultimate 4x4. Then it broke......
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Would I buy an Isuzu? Yes. Would I buy a LR? NO! I've dealt with the tears of people who bought them thinking they had the ultimate 4x4. Then it broke......
We are all chops at the end of the day, some just need less or more braai salt to flavour
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SFA's is not indestructible (cannot believe I said that) but damn they get close to it. But I've seen people trying their best to break them (me included) and they stand up to the challenge.AM Racing wrote:I've seen a few (4 come to mind) SFA's in my shop where the chassis leg has iether cracked and/or broken right through behind the shock mount. BUT BUT BUT..... The SFA is a formidable 4x4 so what is the reason? Idiot drivers? Abuse? I think this is more the case. They were vehicles used and abused in the Transkei.
Would I buy an Isuzu? Yes. Would I buy a LR? NO! I've dealt with the tears of people who bought them thinking they had the ultimate 4x4. Then it broke......
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Everything has a breaking point. Even Mugabe (at some point)
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With a big enough lever you can break anything.
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Ek sien nou eers... die eienaar van die Hilux in die foto hierbo wat Willem gepost het is eintlik net bleddie lui. Hy het die bak gemaak om te kan tip sodat daar leertjie aan die agterkant van die bakkie op die grond kan staan en hy makliker tot bo-op kan klim
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The ONLY problem with Isuzu is the pathetic dealers in the Western Cape, else I might very well have bought an Isuzu.
I learnt to drive on the very first Isuzu's that were released in SA. LOVELY vehicles !
Some vehicles do take more abuse than others, BUT anything will break if abused enough !
I learnt to drive on the very first Isuzu's that were released in SA. LOVELY vehicles !
Some vehicles do take more abuse than others, BUT anything will break if abused enough !
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Ek gaan seker nou gestenig word, maar dan is dit ok, want ek is geleer dat as mens nie kan standpunt inneem en jou mond oopmaak as iets verkeerd is nie, jy 'n lafaard is.
In my oppinie is ek redelik neutraal in hierdie debat, omdat ek vir 'n Hilux en 'n Isuzu ewe veel respek het. Albei produkte het ewe veel goeie as slegte punte, en dit gaan nie hier vir my oor die produk nie, maar die eienaars van die produkte.
Wat my dwars in die krop steek is die van julle wat hierbo so gal te braak het oor Isuzu's, maar na die foto van die IFS wat ook maar geknak het, niks te se het nie. Nerens in die thread van die Isuzu van DeonK kon ek ooit agterkom dat die Isuzu-manne enige Toyota wou verkleineer nie. Waar daar van Toyota's gepraat is, was dit op feite gebaseer, en het die opmerking mens nie geaffronteer nie. Hoekom vaar julle dan so uit?
Weet julle, dis nie lekker om te lees hoe enige produk swak gemaak word nie. Dis een ding as ons met mekaar die draak steek, maar dis iets anders wanneer mens iemand anders se besitting doelbewus wil verkleineer, en dis die gevoel wat ek by 'n hele paar opmerkings hierbo gekry het.
Ja, ek het 'n Isuzu [inteendeel, ek het 5], maar gaan lees my bekendstelling op 'n ander thread, daar is net soveel Hilux-bloed in my, so ek reageer nie omdat ek 'n Isuzu wil goed maak nie. As Hilux'e sonder foute was ja, dan kon ek julle simpel opmerkings verstaan, maar nou laat dit net 'n wrang smaak in my mond.
Ek is ook oor baie dinge passionate, soos my John Deere-trekkers en International Eagle-lorries [met hulle foute en al], maar dit gee my nie die reg om ander vervaardigers of hulle eienaars af te kraak nie.
In my oppinie is ek redelik neutraal in hierdie debat, omdat ek vir 'n Hilux en 'n Isuzu ewe veel respek het. Albei produkte het ewe veel goeie as slegte punte, en dit gaan nie hier vir my oor die produk nie, maar die eienaars van die produkte.
Wat my dwars in die krop steek is die van julle wat hierbo so gal te braak het oor Isuzu's, maar na die foto van die IFS wat ook maar geknak het, niks te se het nie. Nerens in die thread van die Isuzu van DeonK kon ek ooit agterkom dat die Isuzu-manne enige Toyota wou verkleineer nie. Waar daar van Toyota's gepraat is, was dit op feite gebaseer, en het die opmerking mens nie geaffronteer nie. Hoekom vaar julle dan so uit?
Weet julle, dis nie lekker om te lees hoe enige produk swak gemaak word nie. Dis een ding as ons met mekaar die draak steek, maar dis iets anders wanneer mens iemand anders se besitting doelbewus wil verkleineer, en dis die gevoel wat ek by 'n hele paar opmerkings hierbo gekry het.
Ja, ek het 'n Isuzu [inteendeel, ek het 5], maar gaan lees my bekendstelling op 'n ander thread, daar is net soveel Hilux-bloed in my, so ek reageer nie omdat ek 'n Isuzu wil goed maak nie. As Hilux'e sonder foute was ja, dan kon ek julle simpel opmerkings verstaan, maar nou laat dit net 'n wrang smaak in my mond.
Ek is ook oor baie dinge passionate, soos my John Deere-trekkers en International Eagle-lorries [met hulle foute en al], maar dit gee my nie die reg om ander vervaardigers of hulle eienaars af te kraak nie.
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Re: Why we do not buy Isuzu
Gideon, I can appreciate a person that has the courage to stand up for what he believes.
I went back and read through the whole topic, and to be honest, I didn't find anything which I thought to be offensive. Yes there were a couple of light hearted comments about other brands, and some personal opinions / personal choices voiced ... but bear in mind that this is a Hilux forum, so yes, it's expected that those choices / opinions will be biased in favour of Toyota. In fact many of the comments made actually defend the Isuzu inasmuch that some posters blame the driver, citing vehicle abuse, saying that any vehicle has a breaking point, saying that Hiluxes break as well. The pic of the broken Hilux further attests to what I'm saying .... the fact that there was little or no comment made about the broken Hilux is no doubt due to the fact that there was a separate thread about that same vehicle at about the same time (or some weeks before) where there was exhaustive commentary, so I suppose no-one felt the need to comment further.
I'm sorry, but in light of the above, I cannot see the reason for your upset. Please feel free to enlighten me if you wish to do so. You can also PM me if you prefer.
I went back and read through the whole topic, and to be honest, I didn't find anything which I thought to be offensive. Yes there were a couple of light hearted comments about other brands, and some personal opinions / personal choices voiced ... but bear in mind that this is a Hilux forum, so yes, it's expected that those choices / opinions will be biased in favour of Toyota. In fact many of the comments made actually defend the Isuzu inasmuch that some posters blame the driver, citing vehicle abuse, saying that any vehicle has a breaking point, saying that Hiluxes break as well. The pic of the broken Hilux further attests to what I'm saying .... the fact that there was little or no comment made about the broken Hilux is no doubt due to the fact that there was a separate thread about that same vehicle at about the same time (or some weeks before) where there was exhaustive commentary, so I suppose no-one felt the need to comment further.
I'm sorry, but in light of the above, I cannot see the reason for your upset. Please feel free to enlighten me if you wish to do so. You can also PM me if you prefer.
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Re: Why we do not buy Isuzu
Hi Andy
Thx for your mature approach to my post. Would like to PM you, but not going to now, 'cause then others can't see what my reply is, kinda being a bit slapgat if you get my drift.
The lighthearted teasing of one another I can understand perfectly, like the comment from Nardus "I would rather push my Hilux before I drive a Isuzu".
What is not teasing to my mind is the following 4 comments:
1. Pieter = "some people just never learn", concerning Koos vd Merwe's apparent purchase of a LR. Say Koos bought a Toyota, and it had some or other trouble which is not impossible, and Koos went public with it, what would the reaction have been then?
2. Harold = "will swop Isuzu from the 10 place of my list of a possible replacement". Don't actually catch what he means, is Isuzu nr.10 on his list or one of the top 10? Whatever, doesn't really matter, because looking at the NAAMSA sales figures of the last 20 odd years, Isuzu is definitely not that bad, so why would anyone not even consider the brand?
3. Pieter = "Isuzu underneath LR and Mahindra, probably just above Tata". Without taking anything away from Mahindra because then I will be doiing the same as them, if he had to buy a new bakkie tomorrow and Isuzu and Mahindra were his only two choices, I can not believe for the love of me he would not have bought the Isuzu. Why then make a comment like this?
4. Cassie = "every vehicle has it's limits but some vehicles set the bar really low". The vehicle under discussion here is an Isuzu, so now I assume he means that the bar is set low by the Isuzu. Does he honestly believe this?
I don't want to attack these nice people, nor do I want to start a fight between Hilux vs Anything else. What I'm trying to say is that if one wants to critisize, do it in a positive and uplifting manner. If there is two things in life I absolutely despise it is negativity and brandbashing. When I read the reaction of the okes on the Isuzu-link, it strike me how embarrassed they seemed to be, and I hate to see someone being trampled upon while lying down. In any case that's the feeling I got.
I'm quite new on the forum thing, so haven't read to much on this or the Isuzu-pages, but I can assure you that if I stumble upon a thread were they belittle another brand, I will again not hessitate to take them on as well. Not that I see myself as the judge of all that's not right, but just because I strongly believe that if you feel something is not ok, you need to speak your mind. Even if it means you might turn the whole Hilux-community (or any other brand for that matter) against you.
In future I would love to meet you okes at some or other Hilux get-together, and if I'm still driving an Isuzu I do not want to be looked down upon. The idea is to get myself a nice IFS bullnose 4x4 d/c HiLEX not to far from now, but will never be ashamed of my Isuzu's which gave excellent service over many years.
This is my personal feelings, and am standing to be corrected if I'm wrong. Bottomline is I don't think there's any inferior Japanese bakkies on the market, so let's try and not shoot each other down.
Sorrie for my Brits, I'm trying to speak the tale very deliciously. Us Boertjies mos only use English for selfverdediging and in a noodgeval. Like the one sammajoor once said "Ek is ten volle tweetalig, I'm fully bisexual!"
Cheers
Thx for your mature approach to my post. Would like to PM you, but not going to now, 'cause then others can't see what my reply is, kinda being a bit slapgat if you get my drift.
The lighthearted teasing of one another I can understand perfectly, like the comment from Nardus "I would rather push my Hilux before I drive a Isuzu".
What is not teasing to my mind is the following 4 comments:
1. Pieter = "some people just never learn", concerning Koos vd Merwe's apparent purchase of a LR. Say Koos bought a Toyota, and it had some or other trouble which is not impossible, and Koos went public with it, what would the reaction have been then?
2. Harold = "will swop Isuzu from the 10 place of my list of a possible replacement". Don't actually catch what he means, is Isuzu nr.10 on his list or one of the top 10? Whatever, doesn't really matter, because looking at the NAAMSA sales figures of the last 20 odd years, Isuzu is definitely not that bad, so why would anyone not even consider the brand?
3. Pieter = "Isuzu underneath LR and Mahindra, probably just above Tata". Without taking anything away from Mahindra because then I will be doiing the same as them, if he had to buy a new bakkie tomorrow and Isuzu and Mahindra were his only two choices, I can not believe for the love of me he would not have bought the Isuzu. Why then make a comment like this?
4. Cassie = "every vehicle has it's limits but some vehicles set the bar really low". The vehicle under discussion here is an Isuzu, so now I assume he means that the bar is set low by the Isuzu. Does he honestly believe this?
I don't want to attack these nice people, nor do I want to start a fight between Hilux vs Anything else. What I'm trying to say is that if one wants to critisize, do it in a positive and uplifting manner. If there is two things in life I absolutely despise it is negativity and brandbashing. When I read the reaction of the okes on the Isuzu-link, it strike me how embarrassed they seemed to be, and I hate to see someone being trampled upon while lying down. In any case that's the feeling I got.
I'm quite new on the forum thing, so haven't read to much on this or the Isuzu-pages, but I can assure you that if I stumble upon a thread were they belittle another brand, I will again not hessitate to take them on as well. Not that I see myself as the judge of all that's not right, but just because I strongly believe that if you feel something is not ok, you need to speak your mind. Even if it means you might turn the whole Hilux-community (or any other brand for that matter) against you.
In future I would love to meet you okes at some or other Hilux get-together, and if I'm still driving an Isuzu I do not want to be looked down upon. The idea is to get myself a nice IFS bullnose 4x4 d/c HiLEX not to far from now, but will never be ashamed of my Isuzu's which gave excellent service over many years.
This is my personal feelings, and am standing to be corrected if I'm wrong. Bottomline is I don't think there's any inferior Japanese bakkies on the market, so let's try and not shoot each other down.
Sorrie for my Brits, I'm trying to speak the tale very deliciously. Us Boertjies mos only use English for selfverdediging and in a noodgeval. Like the one sammajoor once said "Ek is ten volle tweetalig, I'm fully bisexual!"
Cheers
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Re: Why we do not buy Isuzu
Me again.
Accidently got mixed up a bit. The first comment was actually made by Knersus (Eben) and not Nardus . In his defence (but maybe he doesn't really need it ), just a few comments later Harold made quite some positive remarks about the Isuzu's. Good job, I like!
In regard of all this I want to mention something I noticed, and this is the way Tiaan (swartvark) keeps neutral between the two vehicles which I presume he for obvious reasons has softspots for, namely Hilux and the Amarok. Good job m8, I do admire!!
Got to go braai.....
Accidently got mixed up a bit. The first comment was actually made by Knersus (Eben) and not Nardus . In his defence (but maybe he doesn't really need it ), just a few comments later Harold made quite some positive remarks about the Isuzu's. Good job, I like!
In regard of all this I want to mention something I noticed, and this is the way Tiaan (swartvark) keeps neutral between the two vehicles which I presume he for obvious reasons has softspots for, namely Hilux and the Amarok. Good job m8, I do admire!!
Got to go braai.....
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Re: Why we do not buy Isuzu
Gideon, net om dinge bietjie in perspektief te plaas (dit van iemand wat wel gaan kyk het na n Isuzu voor ek die Hilux gekoop het, as ons maar net beter GM handelaars in die Wes Kaap gehad het ... Maar dit was eintlik die BT50 wal heel bo aan my lys was)
wel Swartvark is n "vark" en nie die swartSKAAP van die forum nie, die wat hy hom so goed gedra ..... :)
Of dalk omdat hy een "verkies" vir Saterdag middag speel, en n ander brand verkoop deur die week ...... Tog is ons nog steeds "lief" vir hom, al is dit net wanneer hy in die regte een sit.
en as jy oppervlakkig kyk na die die stukkie hierbo kyk - is dit neerhalend ens ens, MAAR ek en Swartvark ken mekaar en dis is in goeie gees. En so is daar BAIE meer aan elk een van die posts wat jy aanhaal as die "kort aanhalings". JA, op die oog af lyk dit aanhalings "reg", MAAR die mense stap n lang pad saam en skerts net met mekaar. Inderwaarheid is HIER op die HILUX forum n klomp goeie vriende met heel ander "brands", selfs n Ford, LR, ens ..... Dus, moet asseblief nie te veel lees in die stukkies wat jy aangehaal het nie
wel Swartvark is n "vark" en nie die swartSKAAP van die forum nie, die wat hy hom so goed gedra ..... :)
Of dalk omdat hy een "verkies" vir Saterdag middag speel, en n ander brand verkoop deur die week ...... Tog is ons nog steeds "lief" vir hom, al is dit net wanneer hy in die regte een sit.
en as jy oppervlakkig kyk na die die stukkie hierbo kyk - is dit neerhalend ens ens, MAAR ek en Swartvark ken mekaar en dis is in goeie gees. En so is daar BAIE meer aan elk een van die posts wat jy aanhaal as die "kort aanhalings". JA, op die oog af lyk dit aanhalings "reg", MAAR die mense stap n lang pad saam en skerts net met mekaar. Inderwaarheid is HIER op die HILUX forum n klomp goeie vriende met heel ander "brands", selfs n Ford, LR, ens ..... Dus, moet asseblief nie te veel lees in die stukkies wat jy aangehaal het nie
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Re: Why we do not buy Isuzu
Ek het ook n Isuzu 2.5 1995 gery,ek het hom gebruik toe ek nog autoelecktrical field service gedoen het en ek kon hom nie klaar ry nie.hy was n donkie gewees maar het net aan gehou en aangehou.Ek het hom so 3jaar gelede aan my neef verkoop wat hom nog steeds ry en nie n dag se probleme het nie.My vrou ry ook n 2.5 isuzu 2006 model die een met die kompensator wat ons nuut gekoop het en behalwe dat hy aan die begin partykeer bietjie gesluk sluk het ,wat vanself weggegaan het,het ons nog net in die amper 5jaar wat ons hom het nog net plesier van die bakkie gehaad.Maar ek ruil my hilux vir niks en dis my beste ryding wat ek nog ooit gery het.
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Re: Why we do not buy Isuzu
Gideon, jammer as ons jou omkrap. EK dink sulke kommentaar word gewoonlik meer in 'n spottende wyse gestel as ernstig. Ek hou van my Hilux en ek sal niks anders koop nie. Eintlik het ek nie 'n saak wat die ander mense ry en of dit goed of sleg is nie. ELke ou sweer by sy maak waarvan hy hou en dit is dit. Ander fabrikaat eienaars maak weer vrot grappe oor Hiluxe en Toyotas, maar ons lag dit maar net af en gaan aan met ons lewens, in ons harte weet ons wat die waarheid is.
Ek sal net een puntjie wat oor die Hilux wat geknak het. Ek dink niemand het 'n bohaai gemaak aangesien die voertuig se gewig duidelik verkeerd gelaai was en omdat dit nie 'n algemene verskeinsel is nie. Daardie model Isuzu het 'n probleem gehad en een van my grootste redes hoekom ek die foto geplaas het was juis omdat GM vir jare probeer voorgee het dat daar nie 'n probleem is nie ek ek glo so iets kan nie stilgehou word net om die fat cats te beskerm nie.
Hier einde verlede jaar het daar weer amper elke dag een van daai piesang model Isuzus voor Langebaan se mall gestaan. Ek het maar liewer nie weer 'n kiekie gevat nie, die ou het besluit hy ry hom maar so.
Ek sal net een puntjie wat oor die Hilux wat geknak het. Ek dink niemand het 'n bohaai gemaak aangesien die voertuig se gewig duidelik verkeerd gelaai was en omdat dit nie 'n algemene verskeinsel is nie. Daardie model Isuzu het 'n probleem gehad en een van my grootste redes hoekom ek die foto geplaas het was juis omdat GM vir jare probeer voorgee het dat daar nie 'n probleem is nie ek ek glo so iets kan nie stilgehou word net om die fat cats te beskerm nie.
Hier einde verlede jaar het daar weer amper elke dag een van daai piesang model Isuzus voor Langebaan se mall gestaan. Ek het maar liewer nie weer 'n kiekie gevat nie, die ou het besluit hy ry hom maar so.
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Re: Why we do not buy Isuzu
Right, no offence taken, ek's happie as julle is
Help tog nou maar asb soek na 'n mooi IFS, spesifiek 'n bullnose, wat dalk alreeds geLEX is?
Sal 'n post gaan plaas by Wanted, wie weet..........
Help tog nou maar asb soek na 'n mooi IFS, spesifiek 'n bullnose, wat dalk alreeds geLEX is?
Sal 'n post gaan plaas by Wanted, wie weet..........
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Re: Why we do not buy Isuzu
Ek kan in Isuzu se verdediging een ding se
800liter vol water Vuurvegter agter op 98 280DT Dcab, rowwe klipveld, vuurslaan.
Loop saam met die Cruisers met hulle 1000liter vuurvegters.
Chassis nogsteeds reguit!
My 2 de keuse in 'n bakkie sal 'n Isuzu wees, hulle is baie betroubaar en nie verniet die 2de beste bakkie verkoper in SA nie.
Maar my hart lê maar by Toyota
800liter vol water Vuurvegter agter op 98 280DT Dcab, rowwe klipveld, vuurslaan.
Loop saam met die Cruisers met hulle 1000liter vuurvegters.
Chassis nogsteeds reguit!
My 2 de keuse in 'n bakkie sal 'n Isuzu wees, hulle is baie betroubaar en nie verniet die 2de beste bakkie verkoper in SA nie.
Maar my hart lê maar by Toyota
Almal kry die voorreg om onnosel te wees, net jammer party maak misbruik daarvan
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Re: Why we do not buy Isuzu
Jy bedoel seker 3de, Amarok is 2de net 10maande nadat hy op mark is.....Liaan wrote:Ek kan in Isuzu se verdediging een ding se
800liter vol water Vuurvegter agter op 98 280DT Dcab, rowwe klipveld, vuurslaan.
Loop saam met die Cruisers met hulle 1000liter vuurvegters.
Chassis nogsteeds reguit!
My 2 de keuse in 'n bakkie sal 'n Isuzu wees, hulle is baie betroubaar en nie verniet die 2de beste bakkie verkoper in SA nie.
Maar my hart lê maar by Toyota
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Re: Why we do not buy Isuzu
Julle jaag SWAMBO se moermeter in die rooi in! Haar 2.8 het Ou vale 2 keer op 'n trailer gaan haal en sy gaan dit met fotos in julle kele afdruk as julle weer iets van daai skewe bakkie se!
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Nee 2de, daai stats is net op d/cabs.Rebel 4x4 wrote:Jy bedoel seker 3de, Amarok is 2de net 10maande nadat hy op mark is.....Liaan wrote:Ek kan in Isuzu se verdediging een ding se
800liter vol water Vuurvegter agter op 98 280DT Dcab, rowwe klipveld, vuurslaan.
Loop saam met die Cruisers met hulle 1000liter vuurvegters.
Chassis nogsteeds reguit!
My 2 de keuse in 'n bakkie sal 'n Isuzu wees, hulle is baie betroubaar en nie verniet die 2de beste bakkie verkoper in SA nie.
Maar my hart lê maar by Toyota
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EK het nogal gedink VW gaan die manne in die D/c segment looi.
Meeste Dcabs se aanwending is "Kom ons gaan kuier by ouma en oupa op die plaas volgende naweek " voertuie
Kom ons vergeet van die emosie en kyk wie koop die meeste bakkies - Courier besighede koop meer bakkies as ons boere.
Ons ouens wat ons bakkies tot die limit 4x4 ry is vêr minder as die gemiddelde 4x4 gebruiker.
Daai Isuzu wat gebreek het kon netsowel 'n hilux(of Nissan) gewees het.
Sogenaamde "sagte" 4x4s sal al hoe meer populêr word.
As ons almal so hardcore wil wees kan ons mos al LC76 stasiewaens gery het.
Ek voel net met moet eerlik wees met jouself en hoekom jy die voertuig ry wat jy ry.
Het self al 'n hele paar km's met 'n Amarok bestuur en dit is verseker loshande die gerieflikste bakkie op die mark.
Soos my een pel sê - Sy Isuzubenz loop lekker
Gewoonlik gaan die debat nie oor watse bakkie die beste is nie maar oor watse bakkie die beste vir JOU is.
Ek kry die gevoel ons forum ontwikkel die laaste tyd 'n meerderwaardigheids gevoel teenoor ander brands en dan word meer tyd gespandeer om oor brand x te praat as oor ons geliefde Hilux'e
Ek voel ons is groter as dit.
BTW die voorlopers in die Fundi die jaar ry 'n s/c D4D 4x4
nog 'n BTW - daar staan drie Toyotas in my erf so ek is 'n lojale ondersteuner
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Re: Why we do not buy Isuzu
Julle Isuzu ouens is maar kleinserig ne
My een vriend het n tuindienste maatskapy, hy het n 2.6 Isuzu wat al 1.2 miljoen kilometer op het, die eerste 300 00km het 2 Isuzu enjins gebreek, maar die laaste 900 000km loop hy met n 4Y.
Die 2.5 D sonder turbo of "compensator" was n goeie bakkie, al het hy soos n ou John Deere geklink en geloop, ek het ook een gehad, sy speedo was nie 10,20,30 gemerk nie, maar Maandag, Dinsdag, Woensdag, ek het hom met 440 000km op verkoop sonder dat die enjin oop was, maar twee ratkaste en een diff, die Hilux 2.4D wat hom vervang het het 760 000 op gehad met sy verkoop, een ratkas is vervang.
Hier in die kaap is daar meer Isuzus as in die Transvaal en ons noem hulle "plaasimplemente" vir verskeie redes, ek dink nie dis n slegte bakkie nie, ek dink dis nog steeds dis my tweede keuse, besluit nog oor die Amarok, maar dis beslis nie n Toyota nie, veral waar dit by 4x4 werk kom, dan is die Isuzu maar soos n Foxterrier, sit orals vas.
Ek dink nie dis reg om van die mense op n Toyota Forum te verwag om altyd goed te praat van ander fabrikate nie, en die komentaar en grappe moet ook in die regte lig gesien word, komaan daar is genoeg ander goed in die land om oor te "Stress"
My een vriend het n tuindienste maatskapy, hy het n 2.6 Isuzu wat al 1.2 miljoen kilometer op het, die eerste 300 00km het 2 Isuzu enjins gebreek, maar die laaste 900 000km loop hy met n 4Y.
Die 2.5 D sonder turbo of "compensator" was n goeie bakkie, al het hy soos n ou John Deere geklink en geloop, ek het ook een gehad, sy speedo was nie 10,20,30 gemerk nie, maar Maandag, Dinsdag, Woensdag, ek het hom met 440 000km op verkoop sonder dat die enjin oop was, maar twee ratkaste en een diff, die Hilux 2.4D wat hom vervang het het 760 000 op gehad met sy verkoop, een ratkas is vervang.
Hier in die kaap is daar meer Isuzus as in die Transvaal en ons noem hulle "plaasimplemente" vir verskeie redes, ek dink nie dis n slegte bakkie nie, ek dink dis nog steeds dis my tweede keuse, besluit nog oor die Amarok, maar dis beslis nie n Toyota nie, veral waar dit by 4x4 werk kom, dan is die Isuzu maar soos n Foxterrier, sit orals vas.
Ek dink nie dis reg om van die mense op n Toyota Forum te verwag om altyd goed te praat van ander fabrikate nie, en die komentaar en grappe moet ook in die regte lig gesien word, komaan daar is genoeg ander goed in die land om oor te "Stress"
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Re: Why we do not buy Isuzu
Gepraat van tuindienste. My buurman doen tuindienste in die dorp, Hy ry n Hilux, ek is nie seker watse jaar model dit is nie, maar hy het al meer as 800 000km gedoen. En dit is dorp km's en nie langpad km's nie. Hy het nog sy oorspronklike enjien,ratkas en diff. Maar sy bak werk is al bietjie aan die vrot kant. Maar hy het nog nooit daai enjin oop gemaak of enige ernstige probleme gehad met die enjin, ratkas of diff nie.
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Re: Why we do not buy Isuzu
Ek dink nie iemand kan stry watter bakkie die beste is nie, maar ons gee hulle n paar punte vir die probeer.
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Re: Why we do not buy Isuzu
I will always favor the toyota Hilux option over the Isuzu
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